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OT- Lacto Fermentation Fun- Peppers and Sriracha

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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    I'm In....Do I need whey or can I use a brine from my pepper ferment 


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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    I think brine from peppers is okay. I use brine from sauerkraut.
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    edited July 2020
    I underestimated the head space, had to move it to a bigger container ....used brine from some peppers for a starter I had going, used dextrose instead of syrup ...3.5 % brine ....lets see what happens ....how long @Sciaggie ? I hear a few days, seems short


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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    @lkapigian I let mine sit at room temp for 5 days. Then I put it in the refrigerator for a full two weeks. Mustard is very sharp and raw in the beginning. It will mellow and start to taste right after 2-3 weeks in the fridge. 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    SciAggie said:
    @lkapigian I let mine sit at room temp for 5 days. Then I put it in the refrigerator for a full two weeks. Mustard is very sharp and raw in the beginning. It will mellow and start to taste right after 2-3 weeks in the fridge. 
    Did you blend yours, if you did at what point 
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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    @lkapigian I pounded the seeds in my granite mortar. That was in the beginning.  I like whole grain mustard, so I didn’t try to break the mustard seeds down too much. I probably cracked 25% of the seeds. 
    On the headspace - yeah mustard will absorb a lot of liquid and expands a good bit. 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    Pepper Mash ferment, these are quick and potent, blend peppers garlic and onion to a mash, 3% salt to the weight of the mash, add No Water....thesecare very active , ready in a few days but I still let them go 3 weeks ...


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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    I started another 5 Liter ferment of peppers this morning. Homemade hot sauce is addicting. 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136
    I’m in the game! Bought a mini fridge for $25 and rigged it up with temp controller. First batch is pineapple habanero and a tomatillo serrano. Both have a little onion and carrot. 

    2% brine, 64 degrees, 3 week nap. 

    And as a bonus I found out my sweet duke mini fridge is back lit! 




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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136

    Salsa verde in for the nap now as well. Can’t wait! 

    In case anyone is wondering, I have new air locks arriving tomorrow for the salsa verde
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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Really cool you have a fermentation station. Toot toot!
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136
    SciAggie said:
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Really cool you have a fermentation station. Toot toot!
    And cheese cave! This has been a long time coming. 
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  • JethroBodeen
    JethroBodeen Posts: 525
    Wow!! Thats next level stuff right there. I did they same thing with a chest freezer but turned into a kegerator. A keezer some would call it.
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    Very Cool @The Cen-Tex Smoker
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • caliking
    caliking Posts: 18,943
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:
    SciAggie said:
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Really cool you have a fermentation station. Toot toot!
    And cheese cave! This has been a long time coming. 
    I can’t wait for Cheesescapades!

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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    caliking said:
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:
    SciAggie said:
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Really cool you have a fermentation station. Toot toot!
    And cheese cave! This has been a long time coming. 
    I can’t wait for Cheesescapades!
    As well I ! Been wanting to try cheese, way more technical than anything I’ve tried 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    lkapigian said:
    Pepper Mash ferment, these are quick and potent, blend peppers garlic and onion to a mash, 3% salt to the weight of the mash, add No Water....these are very active , ready in a few days but I still let them go 3 weeks ...


    Cam out amazing was a blend of Fresnos and Green Jalapeno---what I did different.............I left the mash in and just pureed ......I added some Olive Oil from my Calabrian Pepper Stash to the mix,made a huge difference more emulsified, If you have not tried Calabrian, I highly recommend you can get dried and packed in oil,i use the ones packed in oil for salami but drain the oil off. Was going to toss, but this was sitting on the counter and ready to go 



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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    Friend brought by some peppers and 1 random Okra from the garden ....blended to a mash , added some brine for a starter from an active ferment, 3 % salt and a few garlic 




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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136
    Made a mash for a sriracha style today. Fresno, jalapeno, multi-colored serrano, habanero, and a metric shi!t ton of garlic (yes Ashish, I doubled the garlic). Can’t wait for this one. 3% salt to weight of peppers. 

    Into the Duke mini-fridge for a little nap. 



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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Looking good! I’m envious of you. I cannot find fresnos around here. 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136
    SciAggie said:
    @The Cen-Tex Smoker Looking good! I’m envious of you. I cannot find fresnos around here. 

    They aren't easy to find here either. Central Market usually has them but it's not a guarantee. Whole foods has them at certain stores and you can search amazon to find out where they are. CM lets you order online now too so I can at least know before I go. The festive serranos were a bonus!
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:
    Made a mash for a sriracha style today. Fresno, jalapeno, multi-colored serrano, habanero, and a metric shi!t ton of garlic (yes Ashish, I doubled the garlic). Can’t wait for this one. 3% salt to weight of peppers. 

    Into the Duke mini-fridge for a little nap. 



    That's Beautiful!
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    SciAggie said:
    I got my son into it now. This is his first batch of sauerkraut. 

    Very cool @sciaggie
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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
    Sauerkraut is the gateway drug of fermentation 
    Coleman, Texas
    Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
    "Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
                                                                                                                          YukonRon
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  • The Cen-Tex Smoker
    The Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 23,136
    lkapigian said:
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:
    Made a mash for a sriracha style today. Fresno, jalapeno, multi-colored serrano, habanero, and a metric shi!t ton of garlic (yes Ashish, I doubled the garlic). Can’t wait for this one. 3% salt to weight of peppers. 

    Into the Duke mini-fridge for a little nap. 



    That's Beautiful!
    We actually got the Fresno’s and Habs for curbside pickup but I ran in to the store for a Berkshire belly for bacon and 2 Berkshire shoulders for brats. I saw those serranos and couldn’t resist throwing them in. I’ve never seen so many colors of serrano! 
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  • 20stone
    20stone Posts: 1,961
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

    Salsa verde in for the nap now as well. Can’t wait! 

    In case anyone is wondering, I have new air locks arriving tomorrow for the salsa verde


    Stoked about the new project. It is also nice that the fridge is salami tall
    (now only 16 stone)

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    Charcuterie and sourdough enthusiast
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    20stone said:
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

    Salsa verde in for the nap now as well. Can’t wait! 

    In case anyone is wondering, I have new air locks arriving tomorrow for the salsa verde


    Stoked about the new project. It is also nice that the fridge is salami tall
    Plenty of room for Salami 




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  • 11Longhorns11
    11Longhorns11 Posts: 21
    Do y’all find that you get deeper flavor if you start your ferment with a mash?
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,161
    11Longhorns11 said:
    Do y’all find that you get deeper flavor if you start your ferment with a mash?
    IMO, it really just ferment faster, either way the flavor is solid .....but some may taste a difference 
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