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No man, haven't you heard? The libs (sheeple) are juicing the numbers to scare the people into staying home so the economy tanks to make Trump look bad. Only republicans (patriots) are smart enough to see this.saluki2007 said:
That's assuming we are using legit reporting...YukonRon said:USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting. -

Wow."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Probably not surprisingly, states vary in how they report the data:saluki2007 said:
That's assuming we are using legit reporting...YukonRon said:USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/which-deaths-count-toward-the-covid-19-death-toll-it-depends-on-the-state/2020/04/16/bca84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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Agreed, plus they "probably" died of CV-19.Acn said:
Probably not surprisingly, states vary in how they report the data:saluki2007 said:
That's assuming we are using legit reporting...YukonRon said:USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/which-deaths-count-toward-the-covid-19-death-toll-it-depends-on-the-state/2020/04/16/bca84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52303739
I'm in no trying to play our current situation down. Just pointing out that not everything is always the way they seem....duh.Large and Small BGECentral, IL -
I know the WSJ leans to the right so many will immediately discount this article, but maybe, just maybe, Trump’s decision to withhold funding to the WHO wasn’t so rash after all. Maybe.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-reckoning-for-the-who-11586990728?st=kk968tpecbfzgen&mod=openfreereg
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JohnInCarolina said:

Wow.
close one for me, got the money locked in yesterday. 2 page form they changed halfway thru and an inch and a half of paperwork for the bank to file it. accountants at home, health insurance people at home, my bankers at home. easy 2 page form my arse
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CTMike said:I know the WSJ leans to the right so many will immediately discount this article, but maybe, just maybe, Trump’s decision to withhold funding to the WHO wasn’t so rash after all. Maybe.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-reckoning-for-the-who-11586990728?st=kk968tpecbfzgen&mod=openfreeregNo doubt a large bureaucratic multinational organization like the WHO isn't going to be perfect.Another take:
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Right. If so it makes perfect sense to pull our money out, so that China can have ... more influence? Oh wait...Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
So the plan is to continue to throw good money after bad....got it.JohnInCarolina said:
Right. If so it makes perfect sense to pull our money out, so that China can have ... more influence? Oh wait...Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.Jacksonville FL -
Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years. -
Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist:
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Probably because understanding that the virus started in Wuhan isn't terribly helpful to people who currently have pneumonia in say... Lexington... whereas making sure there are enough ventilators at the local hospital actually is. I'm just spitballing here...g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Cool, if he thinks its that important he can stroke a check for the withheld funds. Shouldn't dent his bank account too much. Problem solvedJohnInCarolina said:Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist: -
@JohnInCarolina if the US proves that the virus was started in a lab and it was mishandled by the Chinese and the WHO helped cover it up would you agree with cutting the funding?
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Bill can fund WHO for a century without US help, let him.JohnInCarolina said:Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist:Jacksonville FL -

"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
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What if we all stopped playing the blame game and tried to work together to address the problem? In a way where we learn a lot so that the next time this happens we handle it a lot better? The current administration has not handled this optimally, but how many of us would have? On some level, making the right policy decisions required predicting the future with an inadequate dataset. Most models changed projections this week as new data was added. Having to make decisions months ago with much less data was challenging to say the least. I'm in the field and I don't envy those who have to make the tough decisions associated with this pandemic. From what I can gather, WHO has room for improvement as well. As does China. But this is just the beginning of this thing - and like it or not - we're all on the same team. This is like an airplane flight where we had a rough takeoff and there were multiple opportunities for how it could have gone better. We still have to collectively fly the plane to the destination and land it with all of us on board. Having dems and repubs and WHO and China all running around the plane shooting at each other doesn't increase the likelihood of a safe landing. It significantly decreases it. And landing is WAY harder than taking off.
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@Foghorn well said. I agree 100%. This whole situation is terrible for everyone no matter the ending.
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Why do it now? Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states? Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right.Acn said:
Why do it now? Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states? Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years. -
Well said. He is campaigning and needs a scape goat to deflect the spotlight on his dismal performance as a leader.Acn said:
Why do it now? Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states? Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure China has done some things wrong but we have way bigger fish to fry right now.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
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If you're currently fighting off zombies, sure. Otherwise not even remotely similar.g8golfer said:
If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right.Acn said:
Why do it now? Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states? Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.LBGE
Pikesville, MD
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Oh, for fu&ks sake.g8golfer said:
If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right.Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
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I appreciate that Bill and Melinda’s foundation dropped mega money (Billions and billions as Cheeto would say) to expedite a vaccine.g8golfer said:
With that being said, that meme is pretty dang funny. -
You weren’t asking me.....but.....g8golfer said:@JohnInCarolina if the US proves that the virus was started in a lab and it was mishandled by the Chinese and the WHO helped cover it up would you agree with cutting the funding?
Demanding a change in leadership with U.N. support seems much more reasonable than the US abdicating its role as a major player on the world stage. The “shining city on a hill” and all that Jazz seems to be a lost ideal..XL & MM BGE, 36" Blackstone - Newport News, VA
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