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nolaegghead

GATraveller said:

YukonRon said:

South Dakota Smithfield Meats Plan

Interesting read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52311877

Why does it not surprise me that not once do they mention in this article that Smithfield is owned by the WH Group? 

It does - cut from the article:

Who are Smithfield?

• Largest pork producer in the world
• Founded in Smithfield, Virginia, in 1936
• Owned by Chinese company WH Group Ltd, under its CEO, the billionaire Wan Long
• Over 54,000 employees and $15bn in sales (in 2018)
• Facilities located in Germany, Romania, Mexico, Poland and the UK
• WH Group acquired Smithfield for $4.7bn in 2013, which at the time was the largest acquisition of a US company by a Chinese business

frazzdaddy

Spaightlabs said:

DoubleEgger said:

YukonRon said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

YukonRon said:

South Dakota Smithfield Meats Plan

Interesting read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52311877

no words

I’ve got words... I wonder why the article never mentions that Smithfield is a Chinese owned company although they felt the need to tell the readers that the plant was in a Republican controlled State. 

I was ignoring the politics and referring to the blatant disregard for the health of their production crew, all while claiming to care deeply for their well being.  

Sounds exactly like China to me. 

Operating in America, obviously.

Speaking of that, where’s OSHA been during this crisis? They raise hell about a nicked electrical cord on a jobsite during normal times yet they are completely absent when workers could use them the most. 

You guys gotta start making up your mind.  Do you want small government or big government?

Capitalism or Socialism?

I hardly believe an oversight entity such as OSHA to be either of those, please enlighten me.

nolaegghead

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

YukonRon said:

South Dakota Smithfield Meats Plan

Interesting read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52311877

no words

I’ve got words... I wonder why the article never mentions that Smithfield is a Chinese owned company although they felt the need to tell the readers that the plant was in a Republican controlled State. 

A.  It does

B.  Going against medical/scientific recommendations seems to be strangely political for some reason.

YukonRon

I saw where large chain restaurants were getting money for the small business lifelines. 

YukonRon

frazzdaddy said:

Spaightlabs said:

DoubleEgger said:

YukonRon said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

YukonRon said:

South Dakota Smithfield Meats Plan

Interesting read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52311877

no words

I’ve got words... I wonder why the article never mentions that Smithfield is a Chinese owned company although they felt the need to tell the readers that the plant was in a Republican controlled State. 

I was ignoring the politics and referring to the blatant disregard for the health of their production crew, all while claiming to care deeply for their well being.  

Sounds exactly like China to me. 

Operating in America, obviously.

Speaking of that, where’s OSHA been during this crisis? They raise hell about a nicked electrical cord on a jobsite during normal times yet they are completely absent when workers could use them the most. 

You guys gotta start making up your mind.  Do you want small government or big government?

Capitalism or Socialism?

I hardly believe an oversight entity such as OSHA to be either of those, please enlighten me.

OSHA has established federal guidelines. States that wish to apply more restrictions, open their own offices to support the State Guidelines. They, in effect, are responsible for enforcement.

Many states, such as South Dakota, do not have a state run program. The enforcement comes from the US government.

I believe it not too much of a stretch, in a republican operated state, in lockstep with DC's roll back of EPA and other health and safety rules, that  the Federally operated OSHA in South Dakota is not exactly knocking on the front door of big business, staffed with immigrants, interfering with our largest trade partner.

One of the concessions Sonny Perdue sought for his side of the bureaucracy.

Kind of a reason places like this, choose these states to operate in.

Just a hunch. I am usually in the middle of wrong.

If you do not see the corruption with in this administration, there is nothing I can do about that.

(wRONg)

frazzdaddy

@YukonRon, I agree. I was being more literal. "Capitalist" or "Socialist"

GATraveller

@nolaegghead
Interesting. I read the entire article then went back and skimmed it to see if I missed it the first time through and still didn't notice that. My bad. 

dbCooper

Article: "Here’s What We Know about the Most Touted Drugs Tested for COVID-19"

.....None of the therapies described above have yet been proved to treat COVID-19. But some answers can be expected in the next few weeks and months as the results of clinical trials emerge. Until then, Cortegiani says, “we cannot say, ‘This drug is more promising than the other one.’ We can only say, ‘There is a rationale for it.’”.....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-what-we-know-about-the-most-touted-drugs-tested-for-covid-191/

DoubleEgger

Spaightlabs said:

DoubleEgger said:

YukonRon said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

YukonRon said:

South Dakota Smithfield Meats Plan

Interesting read.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52311877

no words

I’ve got words... I wonder why the article never mentions that Smithfield is a Chinese owned company although they felt the need to tell the readers that the plant was in a Republican controlled State. 

I was ignoring the politics and referring to the blatant disregard for the health of their production crew, all while claiming to care deeply for their well being.  

Sounds exactly like China to me. 

Operating in America, obviously.

Speaking of that, where’s OSHA been during this crisis? They raise hell about a nicked electrical cord on a jobsite during normal times yet they are completely absent when workers could use them the most. 

You guys gotta start making up your mind.  Do you want small government or big government?

Capitalism or Socialism?

I’ll choose consistency 

YukonRon

frazzdaddy said:

@YukonRon, I agree. I was being more literal. "Capitalist" or "Socialist"

I get it. Just responding to the question where is OSHA? Giving a response that likely explains their complete absence during this outbreak.

frazzdaddy

YukonRon said:

frazzdaddy said:

@YukonRon, I agree. I was being more literal. "Capitalist" or "Socialist"

I get it. Just responding to the question where is OSHA? Giving a response that likely explains their complete absence during this outbreak.

I agree with your assessment totally.

Spaightlabs

frazzdaddy said:

@YukonRon, I agree. I was being more literal. "Capitalist" or "Socialist"

Well, do you want the nanny state handing out buckets of money  or should everyone stand on their own no matter what?

Where did you stand on bank and auto manufacturer bailouts?

CTMike

Well after reading that article, I will never buy another Smithfield product. Shameless behavior.

GATraveller

CTMike said:

Well after reading that article, I will never buy another Smithfield product. Shameless behavior.

I quit when I found out they were bought. Not sure why I draw the line with my pork products.....but I did. This just solidified my decision. 

frazzdaddy

Spaightlabs said:

frazzdaddy said:

@YukonRon, I agree. I was being more literal. "Capitalist" or "Socialist"

Well, do you want the nanny state handing out buckets of money  or should everyone stand on their own no matter what?

Where did you stand on bank and auto manufacturer bailouts?

I made no mention of banks or auto manufacturers. I was making a reference to OSHA having nothing to do with socialism or capitalism. I did however agree with Ron that it is possible with our presidents aversion to oversight that maybe OSHA oversight was held back in this case. 

CTMike

I don’t put a lot of faith in Fox News, (or any major media outlet for that matter), but there are likely a few nuggets of truth in this article. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-officials-investigation-coronavirus-wuhan-lab

Spaightlabs

Fox 'news' the good people who bring you Mehmet Oz and Phil McGraw...

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-04-17/dr-phil-dr-oz-fox-news-coronavirus-controversy

JohnInCarolina

Spaightlabs said:

Fox 'news' the good people who bring you Mehmet Oz and Phil McGraw...

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-04-17/dr-phil-dr-oz-fox-news-coronavirus-controversy

That is some crazy sh!t.  I still have relatives who think Dr. Oz isn't a total quack.

Canugghead

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-u-s-agree-to-extend-border-restrictions-by-30-days-sources-1.4900471

Glad to see this. OTOH many Canadian front line medical workers who commute to Detroit area hospitals are already infected by who knows how many MI MaGa'ts.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1250580422502879232?s=20

Canugghead

Conspiracy theory ... Germany, New Zealand and Taiwan are doing better because they have female leaders    or should I say cheerleaders 

Spaightlabs

Canugghead said:

Conspiracy theory ... Germany, New Zealand and Taiwan are doing better because they have female leaders    or should I say cheerleaders 

And what do we get?

a mango colored megalomaniac who in the course of 4 days has vacillated  multiple times between empire-like power fantasies to saying y'all do what ya wanna do and then on to his twitter machine to spew chit like 'LIBERATE MICHIGAN', 'LIBERATE MINNESOTA' AND 'LIBERATE VIRGINIA'.

Can't make up his mind. won't make up his mind.
Can't stop pandering, won't stop pandering.

nolaegghead

Canugghead said:

Conspiracy theory ... Germany, New Zealand and Taiwan are doing better because they have female leaders    or should I say cheerleaders 

FTFY

alaskanassasin

GATraveller said:

CTMike said:

Well after reading that article, I will never buy another Smithfield product. Shameless behavior.

I quit when I found out they were bought. Not sure why I draw the line with my pork products.....but I did. This just solidified my decision. 

 

  

    It works out great for China. 

  

   All the manure and environmental toxic waste to stay in US, ship processed beautiful US pork to China.  Wait... in order to avoid Tariffs and taxes, and quite frankly US labor expenses, ship the whole carcass to China to be processed. 

 These people https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/15/751090633/swine-fever-is-killing-vast-numbers-of-pigs-in-china  own Smithfield.

 

Canugghead

Spaightlabs said:

Canugghead said:

Conspiracy theory ... Germany, New Zealand and Taiwan are doing better because they have female leaders    or should I say cheerleaders 

And what do we get?

a mango colored megalomaniac who in the course of 4 days has vacillated  multiple times between empire-like power fantasies to saying y'all do what ya wanna do and then on to his twitter machine to spew chit like 'LIBERATE MICHIGAN', 'LIBERATE MINNESOTA' AND 'LIBERATE VIRGINIA'.

Can't make up his mind. won't make up his mind.
Can't stop pandering, won't stop pandering.

You got cheetoleader 😂

HeavyG

GATraveller said:

CTMike said:

Well after reading that article, I will never buy another Smithfield product. Shameless behavior.

I quit when I found out they were bought. Not sure why I draw the line with my pork products.....but I did. This just solidified my decision. 

Not sure why Chinese ownership is of any relevance. Meat processing/packing plants have always been a hazardous workplace where concern for line employees is minimal. Surely you read the century old Upton Sinclair novel "The Jungle" when you were in junior high.

thetrim

Did anyone check the archives and see how many times Andrew Zimmerman ate bat? 

I really hope it's zero?

thetrim

Just heard one of my wife's former soccer players and current PA in the ATX area had Covid last month and is recovered.  Wow.

CTMike

HeavyG said:

GATraveller said:

CTMike said:

Well after reading that article, I will never buy another Smithfield product. Shameless behavior.

I quit when I found out they were bought. Not sure why I draw the line with my pork products.....but I did. This just solidified my decision. 

Not sure why Chinese ownership is of any relevance. Meat processing/packing plants have always been a hazardous workplace where concern for line employees is minimal. Surely you read the century old Upton Sinclair novel "The Jungle" when you were in junior high.

I’m not boycotting Smithfield because of Chinese ownership, rather because of how they treated their workers in South Dakota.

YukonRon

These protesters at the state capitols do realize the reason they are not working is because President Trump failed them in the handling of covid 19, right?

Shouldn't they be in DC?

Trump posting Liberate (name your state here) is as slimy as he has always been. Let him be the first to walk in the Smithfield plant or other CVD19 hot spot and get to work.

Then we will see how much he is behind the liberation/back to work he really is.

Shift the blame Teflon Don.