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Agree, it is funny. They gambled on what, 7 different companies knowing that 6 would probably fail to produce. Here is a real billionaire that gives back.DoubleEgger said:
I appreciate Bill and Melinda’s foundation dropped mega money (Billions and billions as Cheeto would say) to expedite a vaccine.g8golfer said:
With that being said, that meme is pretty dang funny.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
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About twenty minutes ago I was walking my dog . We were about 2 and a half blocks from my house. Across the street I saw a woman in purple scrubs sitting in a chair facing a glass storm door. She was talking loudly, maybe on a cell and maybe just to be heard through the door and apparently to her mom.She asked questions about how her mom was doing, nursing type questions. Then she said “Mom I’ve got bad news. I went to work today and I had a cough. They took my temp and it read 99. They told me to go see my doctor and to go home. I called the doctor (couldn’t hear) $300.00. I finally got my dog to move along.I may be mistaken butI think that is a nurse that walks past my house on the way to work at the hospital every day. It is possible that she lived with her elderly mom taking care of her. Now she might be homeless in order to not infect a parent that she was caring for.Just something to think about.
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You might if your kid was in intensive care trying to stay alive and the support of his parents made recovery more likely.g8golfer said:If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right.Stillwater, MN -
So if there had been earlier information about the origin of the virus your argument is that Trumpster fire would then have foregone all of his downplaying, calling it a hoax and somehow we would miraculously, like the virus disappearing in April with warm weather, be somewhere different than where we are now?g8golfer said:
If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin.HeavyG said:Dobie said:WHO is China’s lap dog.
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I find it refreshing that Bill and Melinda's foundation hasn't been fined $2 million and forced to close up shop because of malfeasance (plus I'm sure Gates University is doing fine). Has Trump done even one thing in his entire life that was for the purpose of helping someone other than himself, his donors, his porn stars, or his friends and immediate family?DoubleEgger said:I appreciate that Bill and Melinda’s foundation dropped mega money (Billions and billions as Cheeto would say) to expedite a vaccine.
With that being said, that meme is pretty dang funny.Stillwater, MN -
Is that crickets...StillH2OEgger said:
I find it refreshing that Bill and Melinda's foundation hasn't been fined $2 million and forced to close up shop because of malfeasance (plus I'm sure Gates University is doing fine). Has Trump done even one thing in his entire life that was for the purpose of helping someone other than himself, his donors, his porn stars, or his friends and immediate family?DoubleEgger said:I appreciate that Bill and Melinda’s foundation dropped mega money (Billions and billions as Cheeto would say) to expedite a vaccine.
With that being said, that meme is pretty dang funny.Xl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
Moncure N.C. -
wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
You know, your post makes me wonder, did Trump release the virus?
Seems like the crisis is creating more opportunity for him than for anyone else. Sure, the economy is cratered, but if he brings it back won't that look good right before the election?
It's the only way a staunch GOPer like him could get away with a few trillion dollars of socialist handouts and running the deficit through the roof. Can you imagine if Bernie had been President and suggested giving away $6 Trillion dollars? Wow.
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Not sure how that would have played out, (maybe plenty of ppe's for the medical community at the very least). We do know however what didn't happen.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this storyXl bge ,LG bge, two 4' crusher cone fire pits. Weber Genisis gasser and
Two rusty Weber kettles.
Two Rivers Farm
Moncure N.C. -
From what I remember he did want to shut down the border with Mexico in October and earlier. He did shut down flights from China in January. He did shut down flights from the UK and Europe in Early March. He tried earlier but the news and the House called him racist and xenophobic and otherwise ignored him as they had another priority. Nancy Pelosi said that there was no reason to close down the Moon Festival or St. Paddies Day in New York. The mayor of New Orleans saw no reason to shut down St. Paddies or Mardi Gras .frazzdaddy said:
Not sure how that would have played out, (maybe plenty of ppe's for the medical community at the very least). We do know however what didn't happen.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story -
You're asking us to explain what a pure fantasy would look like?fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
The notion that Trump would have done lots of things to address the virus and much earlier were it not for the Democrats stopping him is... well, interesting.Gulfcoastguy said:
From what I remember he did want to shut down the border with Mexico in October and earlier. He did shut down flights from China in January. He did shut down flights from the UK and Europe in Early March. He tried earlier but the news and the House called him racist and xenophobic and otherwise ignored him as they had another priority. Nancy Pelosi said that there was no reason to close down the Moon Festival or St. Paddies Day in New York. The mayor of New Orleans saw no reason to shut down St. Paddies or Mardi Gras .frazzdaddy said:
Not sure how that would have played out, (maybe plenty of ppe's for the medical community at the very least). We do know however what didn't happen.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
I agree with you, but if I am not mistaken, the mayor of New Orleans shut down the St. Patrick's Day parade, but not a Ball the same weekend that she is involved with, maybe someone from there can clarify.Gulfcoastguy said:
From what I remember he did want to shut down the border with Mexico in October and earlier. He did shut down flights from China in January. He did shut down flights from the UK and Europe in Early March. He tried earlier but the news and the House called him racist and xenophobic and otherwise ignored him as they had another priority. Nancy Pelosi said that there was no reason to close down the Moon Festival or St. Paddies Day in New York. The mayor of New Orleans saw no reason to shut down St. Paddies or Mardi Gras .frazzdaddy said:
Not sure how that would have played out, (maybe plenty of ppe's for the medical community at the very least). We do know however what didn't happen.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story
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See above link.
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JohnInCarolina said:
You're asking us to explain what a pure fantasy would look like?fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story
yes
and somehow i dont think it would come out roses
fukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
Was it not on March 9th that Dr. Fauci said that it was ok to go on a cruise?
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Likely wouldn’t have needed trillions to prepare. Countries have done far more, with far less expenditure.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
When did the US become Communist??NCSmoky said:#1 LBGE December 2012 • #2 SBGE February 2013 • #3 Mini May 2013A happy BGE family in Houston, TX. -
caliking said:
Likely wouldn’t have needed trillions to prepare. Countries have done far more, with far less expenditure.fishlessman said:wonder what would have happened if trump shut down the borders with mexico, canada, europe, china and all the others and asked the house for a couple trillion dollars to prepare for all this back in november/december
would the people take all that seriously and stay at home distancing, would pelosi say "yes mr president", would the courts not take issue with it.......would the media have praised him
if we are trying to play what could or would have happened then play it from there, please tell me this story
not sure the population would have done anything different until the pandemic was real to them, but who knows
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I'm pretty sure the stuff about Pelosi was posted back on like page 11 of this thread.Gulfcoastguy said:See above link.
The real issue is the lack of testing and ramping that up in time. Adequate testing would have allowed us to have eyes on this virus as it was beginning to show up."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
If you think you are currently living under an authoritarian dictatorship, you need some perspectivecaliking said: -
That’s definitely what he thinks!!! He wasn’t being sarcastic at all!!!NCSmoky said:
If you think you are currently living under an authoritarian dictatorship, you need some perspectivecaliking said:
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Thanks to the weak-kneed GOP senators, it has to be easily the closest we've had to one in the past few centuries or so.NCSmoky said:If you think you are currently living under an authoritarian dictatorship, you need some perspectiveStillwater, MN -
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/835011346/a-timeline-of-coronavirus-comments-from-president-trump-and-who
Interesting read. You may wish to digest this before playing "what if?" and "what about this?"
Remember, this is the WHO. This is not from frontline USA State Department people or intelligence personnel, stationed overseas, who risked their lives and certainly their health, pleading for Trump to initiate action from at least the first of January, and as far back as November 2019.
You have to ask....did Trump trust China more than his own people? Did he trust the Chinese lapdog (WHO) more than his own people?
How difficult is it for anybody to understand our president made not one, but just about every wrong move you could make during this crisis?
Blame WHO if you wish. Blame Fauci.....Blame Pelosi, blame the Govs of Lousiana, NY anyone in any state that failed to make a responsible move. If you live in those states vote against them in the next election or primary. I would. I live in the United States. I AM LUCKY TO DO SO. Trust me when I tell you this, I will vote against everyone on the ballot that played a roll in this mess, democrat or republican.
It will most certainly include Donald Trump.
The bottom line, Trump called the shots, and his arrogance/ignorance of this pandemic has cost us for decades to come.
Quit being politically tribal. Be an American, be a patriot. Plenty of both sides of the aisle dying out there, on the front lines trying to protect your life. Those are the patriots, democrats and republicans.
Rant over, taking my wine box platform, and heading home.
Stay safe. Please stay safe."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
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With the level of TDS on display in this thread I’m not sure who is being sarcastic and who isn’tJohnInCarolina said:
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