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  • Spaightlabs
    Spaightlabs Posts: 2,349
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    saluki2007 said:
    YukonRon said:
    USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting.

    That's assuming we are using legit reporting...
    No man, haven't you heard?  The libs (sheeple)  are juicing the numbers to scare the people into staying home so the economy tanks to make Trump look bad. Only republicans (patriots) are smart enough to see this.
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    Wow.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • Acn
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    saluki2007 said:
    YukonRon said:
    USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting.

    That's assuming we are using legit reporting...
    Probably not surprisingly, states vary in how they report the data:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/which-deaths-count-toward-the-covid-19-death-toll-it-depends-on-the-state/2020/04/16/bca84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html

    LBGE

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  • saluki2007
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    Acn said:
    saluki2007 said:
    YukonRon said:
    USA 28529. 24% higher than any other country with legit reporting.

    That's assuming we are using legit reporting...
    Probably not surprisingly, states vary in how they report the data:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/which-deaths-count-toward-the-covid-19-death-toll-it-depends-on-the-state/2020/04/16/bca84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
    Agreed, plus they "probably" died of CV-19.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52303739

    I'm in no trying to play our current situation down.  Just pointing out that not everything is always the way they seem....duh.
    Large and Small BGE
    Central, IL

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  • CTMike
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    I know the WSJ leans to the right so many will immediately discount this article, but maybe, just maybe, Trump’s decision to withhold funding to the WHO wasn’t so rash after all. Maybe.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-reckoning-for-the-who-11586990728?st=kk968tpecbfzgen&mod=openfreereg
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  • HeavyG
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    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • fishlessman
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    JohnInCarolina said:


    Wow.

    close one for me, got the money locked in yesterday. 2 page form they changed halfway thru and an inch and a half of paperwork for the bank to file it. accountants at home, health insurance people at home, my bankers at home. easy 2 page form my arse
    fukahwee maine

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  • HeavyG
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    CTMike said:
    I know the WSJ leans to the right so many will immediately discount this article, but maybe, just maybe, Trump’s decision to withhold funding to the WHO wasn’t so rash after all. Maybe.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-reckoning-for-the-who-11586990728?st=kk968tpecbfzgen&mod=openfreereg

    No doubt a large bureaucratic multinational organization like the WHO isn't going to be perfect.

    Another take:

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • Dobie
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    WHO is China’s lap dog. 
    Jacksonville FL
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 
    Right.  If so it makes perfect sense to pull our money out, so that China can have ... more influence?  Oh wait...
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • Dobie
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 
    Right.  If so it makes perfect sense to pull our money out, so that China can have ... more influence?  Oh wait...
    So the plan is to continue to throw good money after bad....got it.
    Jacksonville FL
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  • HeavyG
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    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • g8golfer
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    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
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  • NCSmoky
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    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    One is a Communist authoritarian dictatorship and the other is not 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 31,046
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    Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist:


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • JohnInCarolina
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    g8golfer said:
    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
    Probably because understanding that the virus started in Wuhan isn't terribly helpful to people who currently have pneumonia in say... Lexington... whereas making sure there are enough ventilators at the local hospital actually is.  I'm just spitballing here...
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • NCSmoky
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist:


    Cool, if he thinks its that important he can stroke a check for the withheld funds. Shouldn't dent his bank account too much. Problem solved
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  • g8golfer
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    @JohnInCarolina if the US proves that the virus was started in a lab and it was mishandled by the Chinese and the WHO helped cover it up would you agree with cutting the funding? 
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  • Dobie
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    JohnInCarolina said:
    Bill Gates, documented Trump hater and China apologist:


    Bill can fund WHO for a century without US help, let him.
    Jacksonville FL
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 31,046
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    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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  • g8golfer
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  • g8golfer
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    @Foghorn well said. I agree 100%. This whole situation is terrible for everyone no matter the ending. 
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  • Acn
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    g8golfer said:
    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
    Why do it now?  Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states?  Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?

    LBGE

    Pikesville, MD

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  • g8golfer
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    Acn said:
    g8golfer said:
    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
    Why do it now?  Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states?  Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?
    If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right. 
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  • frazzdaddy
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    edited April 2020
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    Acn said:
    g8golfer said:
    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
    Why do it now?  Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states?  Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?
    Well said. He is campaigning and needs a scape goat to deflect the spotlight on his dismal performance as a leader. 
    Don't get me wrong, I'm sure China has done some things wrong but we have way bigger fish to fry right now. 
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    Two rusty Weber kettles. 

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  • Acn
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    g8golfer said:
    Acn said:
    g8golfer said:
    HeavyG said:
    Dobie said:
    WHO is China’s lap dog. 

    I guess it's only fair that someone else gets the chance seeing how they were the US's lapdog for the last sixty plus years.
    If we are footing the bill work for us not against us. Only the Trump haters would somehow spin it as him being mean for cutting the funding to the WHO for helping China cover it up. This virus has killed 135k people and counting but no one gives a damn about the origin. 
    Why do it now?  Given that this is a global pandemic why try and hamper the largest international health organization that is trying to contain the outbreak and coordinate information from 200-odd member states?  Why not continue support during this time, and once the current crisis is contained withhold funding pending an independent audit?
    If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right. 
    If you're currently fighting off zombies, sure.  Otherwise not even remotely similar.

    LBGE

    Pikesville, MD

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  • dmchicago
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    g8golfer said:

    If your spouse cheats on you and you catch them just continue to act like normal. Sleep in the same bed, live together and act like you love each other but after the divorce is final you can hate them. Seems about right. 
    Oh, for fu&ks sake.
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  • DoubleEgger
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    g8golfer said:

    I appreciate that Bill and Melinda’s foundation dropped mega money (Billions and billions as Cheeto would say) to expedite a vaccine. 

    With that being said, that meme is pretty dang funny. 
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    g8golfer said:
    @JohnInCarolina if the US proves that the virus was started in a lab and it was mishandled by the Chinese and the WHO helped cover it up would you agree with cutting the funding? 
    You weren’t asking me.....but.....

    Demanding a change in leadership with U.N. support seems much more reasonable than the US abdicating its role as a major player on the world stage. The “shining city on a hill” and all that Jazz seems to be a lost ideal. 

    .
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