If it wasn’t real for you yet

Acn

NCSmoky said:

I mean, I know you're not interested in real debate or information because you stole that from Facebook or InfoWars or some such other site, but this is HR 6201, the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, passed by the US House and right off the bat you'll notice it is only 110 pages.

BigreenGreg

https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/COVIDSUPP3_xml.pdf

ACN, here is the link to Nancy's bill. 1400 pages+/-

fishlessman

NCSmoky said:

fake news, the 300,000,000 for migrants and refugees is on page 148, not page 147

Acn

BigreenGreg said:

https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/COVIDSUPP3_xml.pdf

ACN, here is the link to Nancy's bill. 1400 pages+/-

My apologies, I hadn't seen that that had come out of committee yet.  

JohnInCarolina

JFC

NCSmoky

Acn said:

I mean, I know you're not interested in real debate or information because you stole that from Facebook or InfoWars or some such other site, but this is HR 6201, the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, passed by the US House and right off the bat you'll notice it is only 110 pages.

I mean I know that you're not interested in anything that doesn't fit your narrative because you get your information from NYT MSNBC WAPO HUFFPO but if you follow the link JIC gave and the page marks in the pic I posted it doesn't seem like fake news to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Acn

NCSmoky said:

Acn said:

I mean, I know you're not interested in real debate or information because you stole that from Facebook or InfoWars or some such other site, but this is HR 6201, the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, passed by the US House and right off the bat you'll notice it is only 110 pages.

I mean I know that you're not interested in anything that doesn't fit your narrative because you get your information from NYT MSNBC WAPO HUFFPO but if you follow the link JIC gave and the page marks in the pic I posted it doesn't seem like fake news to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No, I don't trust anything that doesn't have attribution.

I did apologize above when the link to the proposed bill was posted.

HendersonTRKing

JohnInCarolina said:

JFC

Thoughts and prayers . . .

NCSmoky

Acn said:

NCSmoky said:

Acn said:

I mean, I know you're not interested in real debate or information because you stole that from Facebook or InfoWars or some such other site, but this is HR 6201, the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, passed by the US House and right off the bat you'll notice it is only 110 pages.

I mean I know that you're not interested in anything that doesn't fit your narrative because you get your information from NYT MSNBC WAPO HUFFPO but if you follow the link JIC gave and the page marks in the pic I posted it doesn't seem like fake news to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No, I don't trust anything that doesn't have attribution.

I did apologize above when the link to the proposed bill was posted.

Its all good. I just get tweaked by the InfoWars or "some such other site" generalizations. The divide and conquer plan is working stupendously.

Foghorn

The state of New York has given hospitals essentially unlimited power to increase bed capacity and all physicians including resident trainees now are allowed to work unlimited hours.  Given that New York implemented physician work hour restriction in the 1980's, long before any other state, this speaks to the dire situation there.

One hospital went from being essentially full to having 15 patients on ventilators lining the hall of their ER with no other place to put them over the past 24 hours.

The idea of "let's just get infected and get this over with for the benefit of the economy" isn't crazy on the surface.  But when you dig a little deeper you realize that plan doesn't just involve a bunch of us feeling bad and coughing for a week.  It comes with:
- rationing care (anybody who needs a ventilator over age 60 is just put in a corner to die)
- 1000's of deaths in each community (such that there aren't enough body bags or morgue space)
- potential loss of a significant portion of a community's healthcare providers (affecting the ability to provide adequate care after the crisis)
- 1000s of deaths in each community NOT caused by COVID-19, but caused by potentially treatable conditions that become fatal because there are no hospital beds to treat appendicitis, heart attacks, strokes, etc. (Estimates from Italy are that these deaths are similar in number to the COVID-19 deaths... or at least they were when the number of COVID-19 deaths was around 4000)

Our leaders are stuck between rocks and hard places.  Many of them will make mistakes or say/write things that aren't optimal.  I know what I think is the right thing to do and I'll express that when possible/needed.  I would encourage all of you to do the same.  

And as I posted before, thanks to all of you for being here.  This makes "physical distancing, social connectedness" possible.

Legume

Shouldn’t be surprising that both parties have put forth bills that have unnecessary crap in them and are distasteful to anyone focused on chirping about sides.

When I post something critical of the Grand Cheeto, or the behavior of his current party, know that it’s not a ringing or even a limp endorsement of anything the other f-d up group are doing.

Legume

India is on full, severe, lockdown now.  They seem to get it.

Foghorn

Legume said:

India is on full, severe, lockdown now.  They seem to get it.

Yeah.  They have no resources to deal with anything like what Italy or China or New York have seen.

Canugghead

JohnInCarolina said:

Tokyo Olympics just got postponed.  Not like they had a choice.  A lot of countries were saying they wouldn't be sending their athletes.  

Should GWN be proud or ashamed to be the first to chicken out 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/23/tokyo-2020-olympics-in-doubt-as-canada-becomes-first-team-to-pull-out-over-coronavirus anyone has 

Gulfcoastguy

Canugghead said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Tokyo Olympics just got postponed.  Not like they had a choice.  A lot of countries were saying they wouldn't be sending their athletes.  

Should GWN be proud or ashamed to be the first to chicken out 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/23/tokyo-2020-olympics-in-doubt-as-canada-becomes-first-team-to-pull-out-over-coronavirus anyone has 

No actually they did the right thing regardless of their motivation.

JohnInCarolina

NCSmoky said:

Acn said:

I mean, I know you're not interested in real debate or information because you stole that from Facebook or InfoWars or some such other site, but this is HR 6201, the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, passed by the US House and right off the bat you'll notice it is only 110 pages.

I mean I know that you're not interested in anything that doesn't fit your narrative because you get your information from NYT MSNBC WAPO HUFFPO but if you follow the link JIC gave and the page marks in the pic I posted it doesn't seem like fake news to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

dmchicago

HendersonTRKing said:

JohnInCarolina said:

JFC

Thoughts and prayers . . .

I have thoughts but I'll save the prayers for a more deserving opportunity.

NCSmoky

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

thetrim

I just got word of my first friend to be infected.  Fahk.   

nolaegghead

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

JohnInCarolina

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

I suspect it's reasonably accurate, but there's a lot of context for the bill itself and the items in it that are missing.

If you believe it's accurate, I suppose I wonder why you wouldn't be willing to share the source.

NCSmoky

nolaegghead said:

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

I dunno, I went through the page marks and the items listed were in the bill although some of the page numbers were off. I'll admit I haven't read all 1400 pages of the bill but the items in my post are there. I'm not sure what narrative I'm pushing other that pointing out the bulls*t wishlist funding attached to a bill that was intended to help working Americans during a time of crisis.

JohnInCarolina

NCSmoky said:

nolaegghead said:

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

I dunno, I went through the page marks and the items listed were in the bill although some of the page numbers were off. I'll admit I haven't read all 1400 pages of the bill but the items in my post are there. I'm not sure what narrative I'm pushing other that pointing out the bulls*t wishlist funding attached to a bill that was intended to help working Americans during a time of crisis.

So if you're not pushing any narrative, then why the reluctance to share the source?  Maybe because the source is pushing a narrative?  

Matt86m

I'd like to see a bill introduced that keeps all bills on topic. Why is there $35,000,000 for the Kennedy Performing Arts Center in the latest stimulus bill? 

Source: KTLA morning news & 
 https://www.toddstarnes.com/coronavirus/democrats-coronavirus-bill-includes-35-million-for-john-f-kennedy-performing-arts-center/

Canugghead

thread sunken, bookmark it if you're interested
https://eggheadforum.com/discussion/1223201/ot-corona-virus-how-are-you-preparing-ot/p3

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

NCSmoky said:

nolaegghead said:

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

I dunno, I went through the page marks and the items listed were in the bill although some of the page numbers were off. I'll admit I haven't read all 1400 pages of the bill but the items in my post are there. I'm not sure what narrative I'm pushing other that pointing out the bulls*t wishlist funding attached to a bill that was intended to help working Americans during a time of crisis.

So if you're not pushing any narrative, then why the reluctance to share the source?  Maybe because the source is pushing a narrative?  

maybe because some push their narrative against sources they dont like just a guess

NCSmoky

JohnInCarolina said:

NCSmoky said:

nolaegghead said:

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

I dunno, I went through the page marks and the items listed were in the bill although some of the page numbers were off. I'll admit I haven't read all 1400 pages of the bill but the items in my post are there. I'm not sure what narrative I'm pushing other that pointing out the bulls*t wishlist funding attached to a bill that was intended to help working Americans during a time of crisis.

So if you're not pushing any narrative, then why the reluctance to share the source?  Maybe because the source is pushing a narrative?  

Meh, not going to play the semantics game. Appropriations stated in my post are in fact in the bill. The obvious "narrative" is that politicians are using this opportunity to fund horses*t instead of addressing the needs of the nation and their constituents. Have a good day and I genuinely wish the best for you and your family during this crisis.

nolaegghead

Matt86m said:

I'd like to see a bill introduced that keeps all bills on topic. Why is there $35,000,000 for the Kennedy Performing Arts Center in the latest stimulus bill? 

Source: KTLA morning news & 
 https://www.toddstarnes.com/coronavirus/democrats-coronavirus-bill-includes-35-million-for-john-f-kennedy-performing-arts-center/

Well, it's an institution that will need money.  Read up on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_Center_for_the_Performing_Arts

Next question. 

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

NCSmoky said:

nolaegghead said:

NCSmoky said:

JohnInCarolina said: 

All that being said, I am genuinely curious as to where the pic you posted came from.  

Does it matter if it is accurate?

It obviously isn't accurate but there are people who will believe it is and that's just part of the chain of events where people die.  So whatever.  If you feel like that's a good narrative, then roll with it. I'm obviously misanthropic, an uncaring agent of evil and the devil, and I support you at least 90 percent.

I dunno, I went through the page marks and the items listed were in the bill although some of the page numbers were off. I'll admit I haven't read all 1400 pages of the bill but the items in my post are there. I'm not sure what narrative I'm pushing other that pointing out the bulls*t wishlist funding attached to a bill that was intended to help working Americans during a time of crisis.

So if you're not pushing any narrative, then why the reluctance to share the source?  Maybe because the source is pushing a narrative?  

maybe because some push their narrative against sources they dont like just a guess

I think the unwillingness to answer a pretty basic and innocuous question speaks for itself.  Have a good day fish.

YukonRon

"Trump eyes loosening virus restrictions, says he hopes to have country 'opened up’ by Easter."

HERE.WE.GO!