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lkapigian

nolaegghead said:

Foghorn, his family (two of them, at least) and I have had some spirited debates over dinner and, while we don't always agree, we respect each other.

^^^^^^ is what matters most ^^^^^^ if everyone agreed on everything it would be on Stepford Country...Debate your point and respect the others 

frazzdaddy

nolaegghead said:

blasting said:

That balloon is funny stuff - fly it high.  What i don't like is, if the same balloon has been made for Obama it would have been decried as racist.  If Hillary had won, a fat diapered balloon would have been sexist.  

There are probably always going to be some people that take extreme positions, regardless of which side the balloon is made for.  Plus, context is everything. 

True, Context and facts matter. For some reason people don't get that. My son is press sec for a well known US senator. He spends hours making sure what his guy says is factual and shouldn't be taken out of context. His biggest beef is that others don't. 

thetrim

Hope you Muslim mayor is doing good things!

nolaegghead

thetrim said:

Hope you Muslim mayor is doing good things!

thetrim

thetrim

Seems like he and Trump should get along just fine.

thetrim

I can see why he liked Obummer so much.

Foghorn

DoubleEgger said:

frazzdaddy said:

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

A liberal as I understand it is someone who wants increased government regulation and increased government participation in the private lives of others. Someone who wants the government making decisions for people instead of them making decisions for themselves. Someone who discards traditional values. Someone who feels taxing people more to pay for the lack of effort of others is fine. Someone who feels a countries border is fluid and should be open to everyone and anyone to "better society". Someone who feels the Constitution is a living and breathing document that should be changed on the whim of what's trendy at the moment rather than appreciating it for what it is and interpreting it the way it was originally written. There also seems to be a very prominent "mob rule" mentality with people who are "liberal".  Are those enough examples?

Maybe I'm just not actually all that liberal, I'm not sure, but a lot of this struck me as much more of a conservative's (or libertarian) stereotypical view of what liberals believe.  I think it's way off in general.  

I think government has a fairly important role to play in ensuring the safety and security of citizens, but I don't want it participating in private lives.  I'm not sure what it means for the government to make decisions for people.  I'm not sure I've ever seen something that would really constitute that, unless you view making certain activities illegal as effectively doing that.  

Taxing people more to pay for the lack of effort on others?  Man.  I've never had that view and don't know anyone who does.  

Changing the constitution on a whim?  Again, that's off.  I do think that society has evolved and that our laws should evolve accordingly.  But that's not quite the same thing as saying the constitution should be changed on a whim.  

And then a "mob rule" mentality?  Jesus man.  Where do you get this stuff?

As for what a liberal utopia looks like, I'm really not sure.  In general I'd just be happy if we made an effort to take care of the sick and the poor, if we had a better social safety net, things like that.  I don't think middle class kids should have to take out the equivalent of a home mortgage to go to college.  I'd prefer we spend far less on our military, and invest much more on education, public infrastructure, science and technology, and medical research.  In my view, a government-run health-care system as a first tier would make a lot more sense than what we're currently doing, and it's basically what just about every other first-world country does.  There's a lot more I could say here but just have a lot of other stuff going on today, so that's about all for now.  

Well said John. I feel recently due to our political antics, any respect the rest of the world had for us as leaders has slipped . In the past we have "walked softly and carried a big stick" I feel our leaders do not fact check before they get in front of microphones. I guess it isn't that important to get it right anymore. We used to talk to each other and work things out in congress. We are so polarized we are paralyzed. That is both sides by the way.  

I don’t think politicians have ever fact checked themselves. It’s just a lot easier to check their statements in the internet age. 

@DoubleEgger, that's not true.  The media may not have always called it that, but they have pointed out inaccuracies at least since the 1970's.  I remember discussing it in middle school civics class.  At the time, an inaccuracy was pointed out because it was so rare.  Seemed to happen in presidential races about once every 2 or 3 elections.  And once it happened there was a feeling that the candidate couldn't be trusted.  

The first time I noticed it myself (without a teacher pointing it out to me) was with Reagan in the 1980's.  He was surrounded by good people who gave him estimates of the impact of his/their economic plan.  Reporters were given printouts of summaries of the plan so it would be clear after the interview/press conference/debate.  When asked, Reagan would claim numbers that were 2-3 times as good as the actual projections.  

The press would write about it after the fact, but Reagan's words were already out there in most voters' minds and I think that's when I realized that a big portion of our population doesn't care about truth or facts - at least not in politics.  They cared that Reagan was going to reduce taxes so they would take home more from each paycheck.  They didn't care if his numbers were accurate - or whether he was senile - or a deliberate liar (seemingly the two viable options).  They were interested in only 1 fact - more money in their paycheck.  There's nothing wrong with that.  But that was when I realized that character was no longer part of the equation for a big part of our population.  

Anyway, fact checking is not new.  It only comes to the forefront when people misrepresent the issues/facts/truth.  To my knowledge, Trump does this more than any of his predecessors - by far.  But that doesn't bother a lot of people.  That's their prerogative.

nolaegghead

thetrim said:

Seems like he and Trump should get along just fine.

We get it.  You hate muslims.  Try to not spew falsehoods, please.

thetrim

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JohnInCarolina

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

thetrim

And they profess to be the party of tolerance...

http://www.newsweek.com/kino-jimenez-arrested-after-teen-wearing-maga-hat-assaulted-whataburger-1010802

nolaegghead

thetrim said:

And they profess to be the party of tolerance...

http://www.newsweek.com/kino-jimenez-arrested-after-teen-wearing-maga-hat-assaulted-whataburger-1010802

Yeah, I totally don't get why someone threw a drink in this kid's face.  That was rude.  I would just laugh at him.

Edit:  *tolerantly laugh

thetrim

The world could use a little more laughter.

JohnInCarolina

nolaegghead

I laugh at her too.  I discriminate equally on both sides of the bell curve of nuttiness.

thetrim

I should've qualified my comments with the "not calling each other Hitler" laughs.  Good one, John.  

nolaegghead

thetrim said:

I should've qualified my comments with the "not calling each other Hitler" laughs.  Good one, John.  

FYI - Capt America's backstory is literally fighting Nazis in WWII.

nolaegghead

Boy, has time changed things when you get shamed for fighting Nazis right here in the good ol' USA...

JohnInCarolina

nolaegghead said:

thetrim said:

I should've qualified my comments with the "not calling each other Hitler" laughs.  Good one, John.  

FYI - Capt America's backstory is literally fighting Nazis in WWII.

Shhh!  Ignorance is bliss!

thetrim

And I am sure Hitler said his little comment about the left's tolerance, blah, blah, blah, equating me or to the teenage kid in the Whataburger to Hitler. 

I hate to have to spell it all out for you funny, tolerant, and super smart ones.

Then, I look at my clock and its 1645 on the East Coast.  Y'all are probably hammered now anyway, so it wouldn't do any good.

nolaegghead

I'm pretty equally obnoxious sober or drunk.  Proud of my consistency.

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

And I am sure Hitler said his little comment about the left's tolerance, blah, blah, blah, equating me or to the teenage kid in the Whataburger to Hitler. 

I hate to have to spell it all out for you funny, tolerant, and super smart ones.

Then, I look at my clock and its 1645 on the East Coast.  Y'all are probably hammered now anyway, so it wouldn't do any good.

Yes, we are definitely the ones who are beyond hope in this little tete-a-tete.

TEXASBGE2018

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

I know I said I wouldn't comment but its completely over my head right now if you are joking or serious. Knowing your general reaction to me I figure you are joking. If you are joking, do you not agree that College Professors are in a lot of cases severely over paid? I know because its public record that 3 of my former college professors each make almost $300,000 a year. Those are on the high end obviously but pretty much all my professors made over $100,000 a year. That was just within the Economics Department. That is insane. That is a small part of the reason college is so expensive. People are paying for these large salaries for professors as well as coaches. Can that professor not work for $95,000 or even $100,000? Does that football coach need to make $3,000,000 a year? Maybe if large portions of the staff didn't make Top 1% income that would help make college be the price of the average car instead of the average house. Oh well, I'm stopping again.

DMW

TEXASBGE2018 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

I know I said I wouldn't comment but its completely over my head right now if you are joking or serious. Knowing your general reaction to me I figure you are joking. If you are joking, do you not agree that College Professors are in a lot of cases severely over paid? I know because its public record that 3 of my former college professors each make almost $300,000 a year. Those are on the high end obviously but pretty much all my professors made over $100,000 a year. That was just within the Economics Department. That is insane. That is a small part of the reason college is so expensive. People are paying for these large salaries for professors as well as coaches. Can that professor not work for $95,000 or even $100,000? Does that football coach need to make $3,000,000 a year? Maybe if large portions of the staff didn't make Top 1% income that would help make college be the price of the average car instead of the average house. Oh well, I'm stopping again.

I thought you were a capitalist?

JohnInCarolina

TEXASBGE2018 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

I know I said I wouldn't comment but its completely over my head right now if you are joking or serious. Knowing your general reaction to me I figure you are joking. If you are joking, do you not agree that College Professors are in a lot of cases severely over paid? I know because its public record that 3 of my former college professors each make almost $300,000 a year. Those are on the high end obviously but pretty much all my professors made over $100,000 a year. That was just within the Economics Department. That is insane. That is a small part of the reason college is so expensive. People are paying for these large salaries for professors as well as coaches. Can that professor not work for $95,000 or even $100,000? Does that football coach need to make $3,000,000 a year? Maybe if large portions of the staff didn't make Top 1% income that would help make college be the price of the average car instead of the average house. Oh well, I'm stopping again.

When you pay for your overpriced cell phone, do you ever think to yourself “damn why can’t those Apple engineers take a pay cut so this thing is a little more affordable?!?!?”

I know that is the first thing that pops into my head.

nolaegghead

Totally doesn't make any sense to want to have the best people teaching higher education and doing research.

TEXASBGE2018

DMW said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

I know I said I wouldn't comment but its completely over my head right now if you are joking or serious. Knowing your general reaction to me I figure you are joking. If you are joking, do you not agree that College Professors are in a lot of cases severely over paid? I know because its public record that 3 of my former college professors each make almost $300,000 a year. Those are on the high end obviously but pretty much all my professors made over $100,000 a year. That was just within the Economics Department. That is insane. That is a small part of the reason college is so expensive. People are paying for these large salaries for professors as well as coaches. Can that professor not work for $95,000 or even $100,000? Does that football coach need to make $3,000,000 a year? Maybe if large portions of the staff didn't make Top 1% income that would help make college be the price of the average car instead of the average house. Oh well, I'm stopping again.

I thought you were a capitalist?

I am to a certain point. But when someone makes $300,000 a year teaching Macro-Economic theory and can pretty much never be fired. Or at least not easily and then public tax dollars help go to pay for that salary I got a big problem with that. Especially when you multiply that by say 25 Professors in a university. It can add up quickly. Again that is just a small part of why college is so expensive. There are dozens of other reasons why.

JohnInCarolina

TEXASBGE2018 said:

DMW said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

TEXASBGE2018 said:

As far as College tuition goes, you are right. Its way too expensive. Given your profession then I suggest you remove being tenured and take a what I assume would be a large pay cut and get paid closer to what a high school teacher makes. Maybe if everyone else in that profession followed your footsteps college wouldn't cost $100,000. Also, on that note. College while expensive shouldn't be free. Because if its free then its close to useless. Its just the next step after High School. It makes it so everyone has it and therefore there is nothing special about it. There is no reason for a company to pay you more money for getting that extra education.

 You are absolutely right about this.  

I know I said I wouldn't comment but its completely over my head right now if you are joking or serious. Knowing your general reaction to me I figure you are joking. If you are joking, do you not agree that College Professors are in a lot of cases severely over paid? I know because its public record that 3 of my former college professors each make almost $300,000 a year. Those are on the high end obviously but pretty much all my professors made over $100,000 a year. That was just within the Economics Department. That is insane. That is a small part of the reason college is so expensive. People are paying for these large salaries for professors as well as coaches. Can that professor not work for $95,000 or even $100,000? Does that football coach need to make $3,000,000 a year? Maybe if large portions of the staff didn't make Top 1% income that would help make college be the price of the average car instead of the average house. Oh well, I'm stopping again.

I thought you were a capitalist?

I am to a certain point. But when someone makes $300,000 a year teaching Macro-Economic theory and can pretty much never be fired. Or at least not easily and then public tax dollars help go to pay for that salary I got a big problem with that. Especially when you multiply that by say 25 Professors in a university. It can add up quickly. Again that is just a small part of why college is so expensive. There are dozens of other reasons why.

Dwayne is trying to tell you that they are paid what the market will bear.  And he is right.

And dude, I hate to break this to you, but 25 profs making $300k a year doesn't actually add up to all that much money.  

nolaegghead

http://radioopensource.org/college-budgets/