College Kids

JohnInCarolina

lousubcap said:

Regarding the accelerated cost of college tuition, my experience with 8 consecutive years of helping two ( conveniently four years apart in age) graduate, is that the gubmint decided to throw a lot of easy money (loans ) to colleges/students.  This enabled the institutions to jack up the rate of tuition increases knowing there were federal $$ available to support the rising costs.  So, at the end of the day, the gubmint made possible student (and loan co-signers) access to "easy money" to pay for the over-inflated education.  
Behind the gubmint were the financial institutions that gladly supported this pass-thru money scheme so everyone was being helped by the ever accelerating student debt except the student.
This is a bit off the friggin college kids thread but relevant to the college $$ posts above.  Now back to my regularly scheduled beverage.

Except that there are limits to per capita federal student loans.  If you look at the rate of growth in those limits, they haven't even matched inflation.

Fred19Flintstone

I'm glad to hear John works for a private university in insulated comfort.  Cen-Tex, I can smell a liberal from a mile away and John reeks of it.  Flint Michigan has been run by liberal democrats for generations.  I know all about them.

nolaegghead

Whew.  Well, college kids didn't make it on the most recent global risk assessment list compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit.   Interesting what did.

https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk

nolaegghead

In that link above, if you follow the Trump threat, you get this summary risk assessment to the global economy (glad our college students aren't on the list!):

Donald Trump wins the US presidential election

Moderate probability, High impact; Risk intensity =

March 17th 2016Introduction

The businessman and political novice, Donald Trump, has built a strong lead in the Republican party primary, and looks the firm favourite to be the party's candidate in the US presidential election in November.

Analysis

Thus far Mr Trump has given very few details of his policies - and these tend to be prone to constant revision - but a few themes have become apparent. First, he has been exceptionally hostile towards free trade, including notably NAFTA, and has repeatedly labelled China as a "currency manipulator". He has also taken an exceptionally right-wing stance on the Middle East and jihadi terrorism, including, among other things, advocating the killing of families of terrorists and launching a land incursion into Syria to wipe out IS (and acquire its oil). In the event of a Trump victory, his hostile attitude to free trade, and alienation of Mexico and China in particular, could escalate rapidly into a trade war - and at the least scupper the Trans-Pacific Partnership between the US and 11 other American and Asian states signed in February 2016. His militaristic tendencies towards the Middle East (and ban on all Muslim travel to the US) would be a potent recruitment tool for jihadi groups, increasing their threat both within the region and beyond.

Conclusion

Although we do not expect Mr Trump to defeat his most likely Democratic contender, Hillary Clinton, there are risks to this forecast, especially in the event of a terrorist attack on US soil or a sudden economic downturn. It is worth noting that the innate hostility within the Republican hierarchy towards Mr Trump, combined with the inevitable virulent Democratic opposition, will see many of his more radical policies blocked in Congress - albeit such internal bickering will also undermine the coherence of domestic and foreign policymaking.

nolaegghead

PS - that's from The Economist.

lousubcap

Regarding college loans, there may have been (and still are?) federal loan limits, but my kids (last one finished in 2013) could borrow the entire projected cost to include tuition, fees and room and board.  I am sure some of the loans were thru private lenders but the debt was readily available for the taking.  Glad I'm beyond that now...

BigWings

henapple said:

I'm sure people take verses out of the Quran or Koran just like people take a verse out of the Bible that haven't taken the time to hear the message or meaning. The NT is a different story or message than the OT. In a way, liberal people should love Jesus's teachings on social issues but can't agree with the moral things. Christians can't get a grip on the fact that the social issues were so important to Him and focus on the moral stuff. 

Love God and others. Treat others as you want to be treated. Don't judge others or you will be judged likewise. 

Your second paragraph is gold.  Golden Rule I guess to be precise.  But I am curious for some examples of Jesus's moral teachings that liberals tend to oppose.   

Fred19Flintstone

BigWings said:

henapple said:

I'm sure people take verses out of the Quran or Koran just like people take a verse out of the Bible that haven't taken the time to hear the message or meaning. The NT is a different story or message than the OT. In a way, liberal people should love Jesus's teachings on social issues but can't agree with the moral things. Christians can't get a grip on the fact that the social issues were so important to Him and focus on the moral stuff. 

Love God and others. Treat others as you want to be treated. Don't judge others or you will be judged likewise. 

Your second paragraph is gold.  Golden Rule I guess to be precise.  But I am curious for some examples of Jesus's moral teachings that liberals tend to oppose.   

Liberals are all in for abortion.  I'm pretty sure the Lord opposes that.

JohnInCarolina

lousubcap said:

Regarding college loans, there may have been (and still are?) federal loan limits, but my kids (last one finished in 2013) could borrow the entire projected cost to include tuition, fees and room and board.  I am sure some of the loans were thru private lenders but the debt was readily available for the taking.  Glad I'm beyond that now...

Yes there are still limits.  They're actually pretty low.

Private loans are a totally different story, and I agree that it's a problem.  

theyolksonyou

Get your civil discourse in early boys. It's Friday!

DoubleEgger

Education is big business and needs new customers. It's sad when kids are brainwashed into thinking a college education will guarantee them success in life. Too many kids end up with a Sociology or English degree and $75k in student loans only to get a $30k job with little room for career advancement. 

lousubcap

@theyolksonyou - I'm all about civil discourse especially on Friday.  And who knows what will be testing the buffalo later today

Sardonicus

Fred19Flintstone said:

BigWings said:

. . . But I am curious for some examples of Jesus's moral teachings that liberals tend to oppose.   

Liberals are all in for abortion.  I'm pretty sure the Lord opposes that.

How do you know that, exactly?
Please be specific.

DoubleEgger

Sardonicus said:

Fred19Flintstone said:

BigWings said:

. . . But I am curious for some examples of Jesus's moral teachings that liberals tend to oppose.   

Liberals are all in for abortion.  I'm pretty sure the Lord opposes that.

How do you know that, exactly?
Please be specific.

If you're referring the Lord, I reference the Ten Commandments. #6 specifically. 

Sardonicus

The sixth commandment (presented well before modern abortion as referred to in this thread, BTW) refers to 'killing'.
How do you know that abortion is 'killing'?

Please be specific.
Please.

JohnInCarolina

I hear large animal footsteps...

Sardonicus

JohnInCarolina said:

I hear large animal footsteps...

Can't imagine why.
Just asking specific questions, here.
  
  

YukonRon

Smelling like buffalo scatology distribution is eminent.

nolaegghead

would be nice if this thread survived into happy hour

YukonRon

nolaegghead said:

would be nice if this thread survived into happy hour

Asking a lot.

Acn

YukonRon said:

nolaegghead said:

would be nice if this thread survived into happy hour

Asking a lot.

Start commenting on threads further down.  If this sits on page 2 until late afternoon it is golden.

Ozzie_Isaac

@nolaegghead my FMEA did not have Trump winning on it.  Looks like I need to redo it.  I usually don't put outlandish thoughts in it.

Sardonicus

YukonRon said:

Smelling like buffalo scatology distribution is eminent.

Eminent?
That ship done sailed!   

This thread is the spawn of buffalo scat.
The initial post is rife with bovine waste as are its concurring responses!

  
  
  

GATraveller

Sardonicus said:

The sixth commandment (presented well before modern abortion as referred to in this thread, BTW) refers to 'killing'.
How do you know that abortion is 'killing'?

Please be specific.
Please.

Because life begins with conception.

Psalm 139:13-17 New International Version (NIV)

13 For you created my inmost being;
    you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    your works are wonderful,
    I know that full well.

Fred19Flintstone

Sardonicus said:

Fred19Flintstone said:

BigWings said:

. . . But I am curious for some examples of Jesus's moral teachings that liberals tend to oppose.   

Liberals are all in for abortion.  I'm pretty sure the Lord opposes that.

How do you know that, exactly?
Please be specific.

I don't need to prove it because it's axiomatic.  The Lord would never say, "Sucking the fetus out of your body and throwing it away?  I'm cool with that."

If you need a chapter and verse in order to know the Lord's position on the matter, then I pity you sir.

MaC122

Sardonicus said:

The sixth commandment (presented well before modern abortion as referred to in this thread, BTW) refers to 'killing'.
How do you know that abortion is 'killing'?

Please be specific.
Please.

how is killing an unborn baby murder? To be specific , you kill a human being before he or she has a chance to live.  You have got to be kidding me. Its people like this who vote. Think about that. They are asking why abortion is killing. Yea, I caught **** for being 35 but I hope you realize that I have the values of the older generation

lousubcap

@nolaegghead -  if I didn't have an early evening commitment that requires sobriety I would get rolling with happy hour now.  But just my luck...

GATraveller

I have to be on my best behavior as it's my anniversary......

nolaegghead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8HhTKzmvas

nolaegghead

"hand jobs are genocide" hahahahaha