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I liked to screw with the newbies at the shop and randomly zero the calipers .040" ish from closed. Teaches a valuable lesson. Zero those things every time you are measuring something that costs more than a half hour of your wages to reproduce. Slide them closed, see that it says zero and then measure. Know where you are starting from!nolaegghead said:Nothing at the moment but I have 4 or 5 of those and I use them all the timeLarge, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
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And after they learn that lesson, teach them to leave a slight gap when you close them. Should never store them with the faces touching.kl8ton said:
I liked to screw with the newbies at the shop and randomly zero the calipers .040" ish from closed. Teaches a valuable lesson. Zero those things every time you are measuring something that costs more than a half hour of your wages to reproduce. Slide them closed, see that it says zero and then measure. Know where you are starting from!nolaegghead said:Nothing at the moment but I have 4 or 5 of those and I use them all the timeI would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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ICASILOzzie_Isaac said:
And after they learn that lesson, teach them to leave a slight gap when you close them. Should never store them with the faces touching.kl8ton said:
I liked to screw with the newbies at the shop and randomly zero the calipers .040" ish from closed. Teaches a valuable lesson. Zero those things every time you are measuring something that costs more than a half hour of your wages to reproduce. Slide them closed, see that it says zero and then measure. Know where you are starting from!nolaegghead said:Nothing at the moment but I have 4 or 5 of those and I use them all the timeLarge, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
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@Ozzie_Isaac
Reminds me of finding torque wrenches wound way up that had been like that for months. I don't regularly use one but have heard to unwind them (to zero) and other mechanics say wind them down to 20% of max. Not sure what the current consensus is on that.
I learned an expensive valuable lesson with the torque wrench. My gut told me I was wrong, but I did it anyway. Spec called for in-lbs and the 1/2 in drive torque wrench I had was in the ft-lb range. Whoops. Cracked whatever I was cranking down. I think it was something on an outboard motor. I was young and ignant.Large, Medium, MiniMax, 36" Blackstone
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Ozzie_Isaac said:
And after they learn that lesson, teach them to leave a slight gap when you close them. Should never store them with the faces touching.kl8ton said:
I liked to screw with the newbies at the shop and randomly zero the calipers .040" ish from closed. Teaches a valuable lesson. Zero those things every time you are measuring something that costs more than a half hour of your wages to reproduce. Slide them closed, see that it says zero and then measure. Know where you are starting from!nolaegghead said:Nothing at the moment but I have 4 or 5 of those and I use them all the time
If one is really, really that concerned wouldn't they use a micrometer rather than a caliper anyway?
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I have always split the difference and gone 10% of max. I think main thing is not fully backed off and not fully cranked down.HeavyG said:kl8ton said:@Ozzie_Isaac
Reminds me of finding torque wrenches wound way up that had been like that for months. I don't regularly use one but have heard to unwind them (to zero) and other mechanics say wind them down to 20% of max. Not sure what the current consensus is on that.
I learned an expensive valuable lesson with the torque wrench. My gut told me I was wrong, but I did it anyway. Spec called for in-lbs and the 1/2 in drive torque wrench I had was in the ft-lb range. Whoops. Cracked whatever I was cranking down. I think it was something on an outboard motor. I was young and ignant.
You can use mics and they definitely are more precise, but calipers hit the speed vs. accuracy ratio perfectly.Ozzie_Isaac said:
And after they learn that lesson, teach them to leave a slight gap when you close them. Should never store them with the faces touching.kl8ton said:
I liked to screw with the newbies at the shop and randomly zero the calipers .040" ish from closed. Teaches a valuable lesson. Zero those things every time you are measuring something that costs more than a half hour of your wages to reproduce. Slide them closed, see that it says zero and then measure. Know where you are starting from!nolaegghead said:Nothing at the moment but I have 4 or 5 of those and I use them all the time
If one is really, really that concerned wouldn't they use a micrometer rather than a caliper anyway?I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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An Odd, similar story:kl8ton said:
I learned an expensive valuable lesson with the torque wrench. My gut told me I was wrong, but I did it anyway. Spec called for in-lbs and the 1/2 in drive torque wrench I had was in the ft-lb range. Whoops. Cracked whatever I was cranking down. I think it was something on an outboard motor. I was young and ignant.
I was passed over for Major in the USAF, and missed the AF so much I joined the Reserves, but they only allowed me in Enlisted (long story).
One weekend we were refurbishing Maverick missiles, and the torque values to re-attach plastic nose shrouds were clearly too high, the shells were splitting long before the "click". At the time I was also the Director of Engineering (as a civilian) for the Missile Maintenance Group, OO-ALC. I knew who the Equipment Specialist was for the Maverick, called him at home, and told him the torque values weren't right, but he only heard "Tech Sergeant down at Tooele" and he told me "Just follow the Tech Data!" and hung up. Most of the guys on our Reserves team recognized the error, and we eyeballed the torque for the rest of the weekend.
On Monday, that Equipment Specialist, and his Maverick engineer, were told to recalculate those torque values, by their boss (who worked for ME, in my civilian job!), and the errors were corrected.
Again, a very odd story, from a very odd period of my career.“I'll have what she's having."
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I have always listened to my mechanics and techs. They have saved me a few times, and usually have great ideas for how to improve a design, or avoid a maintenance nightmare.Botch said:
An Odd, similar story:kl8ton said:
I learned an expensive valuable lesson with the torque wrench. My gut told me I was wrong, but I did it anyway. Spec called for in-lbs and the 1/2 in drive torque wrench I had was in the ft-lb range. Whoops. Cracked whatever I was cranking down. I think it was something on an outboard motor. I was young and ignant.
I was passed over for Major in the USAF, and missed the AF so much I joined the Reserves, but they only allowed me in Enlisted (long story).
One weekend we were refurbishing Maverick missiles, and the torque values to re-attach plastic nose shrouds were clearly too high, the shells were splitting long before the "click". At the time I was also the Director of Engineering (as a civilian) for the Missile Maintenance Group, OO-ALC. I knew who the Equipment Specialist was for the Maverick, called him at home, and told him the torque values weren't right, but he only heard "Tech Sergeant down at Tooele" and he told me "Just follow the Tech Data!" and hung up. Most of the guys on our Reserves team recognized the error, and we eyeballed the torque for the rest of the weekend.
On Monday, that Equipment Specialist, and his Maverick engineer, were told to recalculate those torque values, by their boss (who worked for ME, in my civilian job!), and the errors were corrected.
Again, a very odd story, from a very odd period of my career.
A requirement for my younger engineers is to get feedback on their designs from specific techs.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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Thanks for that story @Botch. I spent 8 years doing aviation ordnance in the Navy. Loaded a few Mavericks in my day.Botch said:
An Odd, similar story:kl8ton said:
I learned an expensive valuable lesson with the torque wrench. My gut told me I was wrong, but I did it anyway. Spec called for in-lbs and the 1/2 in drive torque wrench I had was in the ft-lb range. Whoops. Cracked whatever I was cranking down. I think it was something on an outboard motor. I was young and ignant.
I was passed over for Major in the USAF, and missed the AF so much I joined the Reserves, but they only allowed me in Enlisted (long story).
One weekend we were refurbishing Maverick missiles, and the torque values to re-attach plastic nose shrouds were clearly too high, the shells were splitting long before the "click". At the time I was also the Director of Engineering (as a civilian) for the Missile Maintenance Group, OO-ALC. I knew who the Equipment Specialist was for the Maverick, called him at home, and told him the torque values weren't right, but he only heard "Tech Sergeant down at Tooele" and he told me "Just follow the Tech Data!" and hung up. Most of the guys on our Reserves team recognized the error, and we eyeballed the torque for the rest of the weekend.
On Monday, that Equipment Specialist, and his Maverick engineer, were told to recalculate those torque values, by their boss (who worked for ME, in my civilian job!), and the errors were corrected.
Again, a very odd story, from a very odd period of my career.I always had a hard time believing torque values for the gun in the nose of the F-18. Four small bolts hold that thing in there, with what I always thought wasn’t enough torque.Las Vegas, NV -
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About to put this guy on. 1st Brisket in over a year. 11pds post trim. Holy Cow rub.
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Only a marine biologist would watch a whale fart and think to try and put a horse inside the bubble.GrateEggspectations said:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Getting set up for a non mint julep blind bourbon taste test with my son later today:
Sazerac line-up. Will provide feedback on the What Are You Drinking thread later. Gonna be fun.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
I know. Truly that place to be for elevated conversation amongst similarly-minded, advanced thinkers.johnmitchell said:@Great_EGGspectations. This is why I love the forum👍 -
Nice lineup Frank. I know how I think I would score them, but that’s the fun of doing it blind. I think a Blantons v EHT small batch would be interesting.lousubcap said:Getting set up for a non mint julep blind bourbon taste test with my son later today:
Sazerac line-up. Will provide feedback on the What Are You Drinking thread later. Gonna be fun.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER -
This is the sort of thing that should be on the news everyday and certainly taught in school.GrateEggspectations said:Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.
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The bourbon is great. The familial time is better. Enjoy the great experience on all fronts.lousubcap said:Getting set up for a non mint julep blind bourbon taste test with my son later today:
Sazerac line-up. Will provide feedback on the What Are You Drinking thread later. Gonna be fun.(For the record, I would love to engage in such an endeavour with my father. We share a lot of common interests, but unfortunately for me, bourbon is not one of them.) -
At the PhD hooding ceremony for one of my students, Tianchen Hu. He leaves tomorrow to start a position at Argonne National Laboratory.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Sharing adult beverages with SWMBO after a great day Grandparenting.
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@JohnInCarolina - extremely proud moment for your student to achieve that degree. No doubt you played a significant role in guiding his research and thesis. Congrats to you both.
BTW- on a lighter note, tied for first (with two others) with the lengthiest paragraph.
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Honey do list complete. Egret’s ham syruped and pasted as per instructions in the fridge. Prepping for sides for tomorrow while setting up dinner for tonight. Ribeyes. Simple
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@JohnInCarolina. Congratulations to you and your student 👏👏Greensboro North Carolina
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Quite an accomplishment, John. Congrats. However, if I’m honest, I must admit that I am just slightly disappointed you didn’t supervise “Pheremone Gradients Guide and Stabilize Polarity Sites for Mating in Saccharomryces cerevisiae,” which I can only assume translates to “picking up in bars - how I do it” in laymen’s terms.JohnInCarolina said:At the PhD hooding ceremony for one of my students, Tianchen Hu. He leaves tomorrow to start a position at Argonne National Laboratory. -
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Heartwarming photo, right there. One of the best I’ve seen in weeks. You look too young and too energized to be a grandparent!! Congrats on living the good life. -
Agree!!!GrateEggspectations said:@CPFC1905
Heartwarming photo, right there. One of the best I’ve seen in weeks. You look too young and too energized to be a grandparent!! Congrats on living the good life.Visalia, Ca @lkapigian -
the ceremony itself is being held inside the Duke Chapel
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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