Leadership. Not in this administration. Certainly not thus far.

JohnInCarolina said:

I just wish we could dispense with this notion that Presidents need to visit disaster areas to show that they care.  It's unnecessary and occasionally does more harm than good. 

Agreed. PR move for whatever pres. Won't change though, unfortunately. 

HeavyG said:

So...I hear the owner of the Arkema chemical plant in Houston is saying that there is nothing that can be done to prevent the plant from exploding and catching fire in the next couple of days.

Yikes!! When it rains it pours, so to speak.

So to speak. 

nolaegghead said:

HeavyG said:

So...I hear the owner of the Arkema chemical plant in Houston is saying that there is nothing that can be done to prevent the plant from exploding and catching fire in the next couple of days.

Yikes!! When it rains it pours, so to speak.

Organic peroxides are very unstable.  I think they just decided it's too dangerous to get near enough to the plant to try to fix the refrigeration/power issue so they're writing it off rather than risk lives.

Terrible rock and a hard place, but then the EPA regs re pollution have been adjusted, n'est pas?

nolaegghead said:

HeavyG said:

So...I hear the owner of the Arkema chemical plant in Houston is saying that there is nothing that can be done to prevent the plant from exploding and catching fire in the next couple of days.

Yikes!! When it rains it pours, so to speak.

Organic peroxides are very unstable.  I think they just decided it's too dangerous to get near enough to the plant to try to fix the refrigeration/power issue so they're writing it off rather than risk lives.

It seems, depending on the base peroxide variety manufactured in this facility, an expansive evacuation in the area surrounding that facility, will need to be enforced. The toxic gasses that could be released, may be in concentrations that may be fatal to those exposed, not to mention combustionable or even powerfully explosive.
I wager the community in which this facility resides, will have a few more restrictions regarding the operations and safety requirements when this disaster is resolved.
Peroxide bombs were the focus, for the last several years, in the airline industry security networks.

caliking said:

YukonRon said:

nolaegghead said:

HeavyG said:

So...I hear the owner of the Arkema chemical plant in Houston is saying that there is nothing that can be done to prevent the plant from exploding and catching fire in the next couple of days.

Yikes!! When it rains it pours, so to speak.

Organic peroxides are very unstable.  I think they just decided it's too dangerous to get near enough to the plant to try to fix the refrigeration/power issue so they're writing it off rather than risk lives.

It seems, depending on the base peroxide variety manufactured in this facility, an expansive evacuation in the area surrounding that facility, will need to be enforced. The toxic gasses that could be released, may be in concentrations that may be fatal to those exposed, not to mention combustionable or even powerfully explosive.
I wager the community in which this facility resides, will have a few more restrictions regarding the operations and safety requirements when this disaster is resolved.
Peroxide bombs were the focus, for the last several years, in the airline industry security networks.

i think i heard that the vicinity has been evacuated. 

Seems like the worst of it is past us. Sort of. 300K-400K homes flooded. Relief efforts continue. A colleague of mine canoed with firemen and walked to the hospital in the pounding rain to operate on a teenager. Can't say I would have done the same, so I do have new respect for the guy.

Anyways, will be joining OBR tomorrow to try and help out. 

I bet you would. 

caliking said:

YukonRon said:

nolaegghead said:

HeavyG said:

So...I hear the owner of the Arkema chemical plant in Houston is saying that there is nothing that can be done to prevent the plant from exploding and catching fire in the next couple of days.

Yikes!! When it rains it pours, so to speak.

Organic peroxides are very unstable.  I think they just decided it's too dangerous to get near enough to the plant to try to fix the refrigeration/power issue so they're writing it off rather than risk lives.

It seems, depending on the base peroxide variety manufactured in this facility, an expansive evacuation in the area surrounding that facility, will need to be enforced. The toxic gasses that could be released, may be in concentrations that may be fatal to those exposed, not to mention combustionable or even powerfully explosive.
I wager the community in which this facility resides, will have a few more restrictions regarding the operations and safety requirements when this disaster is resolved.
Peroxide bombs were the focus, for the last several years, in the airline industry security networks.

i think i heard that the vicinity has been evacuated. 

Seems like the worst of it is past us. Sort of. 300K-400K homes flooded. Relief efforts continue. A colleague of mine canoed with firemen and walked to the hospital in the pounding rain to operate on a teenager. Can't say I would have done the same, so I do have new respect for the guy.

Anyways, will be joining OBR tomorrow to try and help out. 

he was on CNN last night. Great story. 

As a point of reference here, the entire state of New Jersey is 8700 square miles.  And that's not even accounting for Chris Christie.  

DoubleEgger said:

JJ Watt has now surpassed 10 million in donations. Just awesome. 

Update. Over 12

bgebrent said:

theyolksonyou said:

DoubleEgger said:

JJ Watt has now surpassed 10 million in donations. Just awesome. 

Update. Over 12

From the garage!  Nice Jason.

I wish. I'm on the left coast during a freaking heat wave. Not too bad close to the coast. Went to the high desert today it was 108 and I was in long sleeve dress shirt like an idiot.