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CHEETO INDICTED!

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  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 31,950
    edited June 2023
    lousubcap said:
    Da-n you @JohnInCarolina , I thought the hammer had dropped.  There's always tomorrow as the sights are trained, only a question of when and it can't come soon enough. 

    I stand corrected!  Party time right now.  How sweet it is!
    I'm gonna enjoy this evening's celebration!  Nothing like a fine bourbon and Cheetos!  A combination I haven't had since the April indictment! 
    CHEETO makes Nixon look like a saint.
    Edit to add the following pic-
    A refreshing and most enjoyable celebration given the well deserved indictment. 

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,290
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 16,976
    Drinking game for the weekend:

    Take a shot of your favorite bourbon every time you hear or read DJT say he is innocent. 

    See you in the Betty Ford Clinic on Monday.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • YukonRon said:
    Oh, boy !!!! We have him this time. Not the other times we tried but this time for sure. LOL What a bunch of gullible goofs....

    Do any of you even care the democrat party is no different now than Castro or Stalin? I mean, take a step back and look at it for a second. 

    First of all, let me state I think you are a brainwashed moron suffering from persistent cognitive dissonance, and I don’t even like responding to such a person because you just become more and more unstable.  

    That said, we still don’t know the charges, but it’s pretty well accepted in the legal community this case *probably* is one of the least egregious insofar as sentencing guidelines go.  It’s a big deal because it’s the first time a US president has been charged of a crime.  He can’t be charged for hiding his sleeping with a porn star right after his third wife just gave birth to his fifth child.  Not that that would have changed anyone’s vote….who the hell am I kidding, that’s exactly what he did.  But the crime will be more pedestrian, lying on business paperwork or failing to disclose campaign expenses.  No jail time if convicted on this one.

    If you think the Democratic Party is “no different than Castro or Stalin”, then congratulations, you have been weaponized with political ignorance like millions of other idiots.  You are a pawn of a relatively small group of ultra wealthy right wing industrialists, a sheep that ironically calls people who you disagree with sheep.
    We may not know what but, I think we know how many.  I just read there are 7 felony counts. 

    A good day, indeed.

    This and the passing of Pat Robinson, if there is a hell, I hope he is in it.
    If there is a hell, he is definitely in it. 
    Keepin' It Weird in The ATX FBTX
  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,380
    YukonRon said:
    A good day, indeed.

    This and the passing of Pat Robinson, if there is a hell, I hope he is in it.
    This meme, and the irony, has given me a smile.
     

    _____________

    Once I thought I saw you, In a crowded, hazy bar..."


  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,290

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 31,950
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704
    JFC


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 31,950
    Jack Smith for President! B)
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 16,976
    edited June 2023
    38 counts. If convicted, qualifies for SuperMax. Another traitor just died there this week, opening a space for Trump. (Hansen, former FBI agent, and Russian Spy)
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 31,950
    edited June 2023
    Here's a link to the entire indictment:

    Edit to add a youtube clip of Jack Smith's brief comments: (scroll to 25:14)

    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    I just saw clip of some Fox News jack off wondering what the big deal is since the documents that Trump had were printed copies. The government still has the originals!
    Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704
    I’m reminded of that famous quote from Deep Throat:

    ”The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.”
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Oh, boy !!!! We have him this time. Not the other times we tried but this time for sure. LOL What a bunch of gullible goofs....

    Do any of you even care the democrat party is no different now than Castro or Stalin? I mean, take a step back and look at it for a second. 
    In the words of an unnamed forum legend: Why do you hate America?
  • SamIAm2
    SamIAm2 Posts: 1,894
    edited June 2023
    Having just now finished reading the indictment ( thanks for the link @lousubcap ) it appears from the above screenshot posted by @JohnInCarolina that CNN misreported the number of counts as 37, not the 38 counts listed in the actual document.
    Ubi panis, ibi patria.
    Large - Roswell rig, MiniMax-PS Woo; Cocoa, Fl.
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,290
    SamIAm2 said:
    Having just now finished reading the indictment ( thanks for the link @lousubcap ) it appears from the above screenshot posted by @JohnInCarolina that CNN misreported the number of counts as 37, not the 38 counts listed in the actual document.
    There are only 37 counts naming Trump (1-37). Nauta was named in a few of the same counts as Trump (32-36) and there was one count (#38) that only named Nauta. So CNN was technically correct in that there were only 37 counts against Trump.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 11,324
    Splitting hair here  :)
      page 2,  #4  At 12:00p.m. on January...
    Have to scratch my head when I see 12:00p.m. or 12:00a.m.  why not 11:49, 12:01, 12 noon, 12 midnight? 
    canuckland
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704


    now he’s going with “those boxes in my shower?  Totally planted!”
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,290
    She's the person referred to as "Trump Attorney 3" in the indictment - the one that signed the letter falsely certifying that all of the sensitive records in Trump's possession had been returned to the government.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 11,324
    Splitting hair here  :)
      page 2,  #4  At 12:00p.m. on January...
    Have to scratch my head when I see 12:00p.m. or 12:00a.m.  why not 11:49, 12:01, 12 noon, 12 midnight? 
    typo 11:49 11:59
    canuckland
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 16,976
    Game over. His attorney has no defense, other than negotiating a guilty plea, time to serve, and where. FDJT. 
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 16,976
    Splitting hair here  :)
      page 2,  #4  At 12:00p.m. on January...
    Have to scratch my head when I see 12:00p.m. or 12:00a.m.  why not 11:49, 12:01, 12 noon, 12 midnight? 
    typo 11:49 11:59
    I think that is why? JKOC🙂
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    edited June 2023
    Can you really cross the Rubicon twice? I mean, it's the point of no return, so...
    Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin

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    "If I wanted my balls washed, I'd go to the golf course!"
    Dennis - Austin,TX
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 30,704
    dmchicago said:
    Can you really cross the Rubicon twice? I mean, it's the point of no return, so...
    These aren’t exactly people who’ve aced a critical thinking test, Dennis.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 31,950
    From today's Politico Playbook

    WHAT TRUMP HAS TO FEAR — By now, you’ve seen the shocking details from the 37-count indictment — including tidbits that surprised even plugged-in reporters who have broken scoop after scoop about the documents probe.

    The epic pictures of boxes stuffed with classified documents stored haphazardly around Mar-a-Lago, including in a bathroom. The transcripts of audio recordings that include Trump seemingly to acknowledge he knew he was in possession of illicit materials he could not summarily declassify. A lawyer’s secret notes that recorded Trump’s alleged suggestions that his attorneys clean up his dirty laundry. And text messages documenting his apparent obsessionwith keeping the documents in his possessions and concealed from law enforcement. Read the full indictment

    The consequences could be severe. Our colleagues Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein note: “Each count of willful retention of records carries a maximum 10-year sentence. Obstruction charges each carry a 20-year maximum sentence. False-statements charges each carry a five-year maximum.” If convicted, Trump would not face those maximums under federal sentencing guidelines. But he would certainly be facing significant jail time.

    What should be especially concerning for Trump is the swath of sympathetic lawyers — even longtime Trump defenders — weighing in on the gravity of the case against him.

    — GOP legal brain and Fox News contributor JONATHAN TURLEY called the details in the indictment “extremely damning,”arguing that the case is nothing like the charges Manhattan DA ALVIN BRAGG brought against the ex-president in April.

    “There are some indictments that are just bare bones. This is not,” he said on Fox yesterday. “These are witnesses who apparently testified under oath, gave statements to federal investigators, both of which can be criminally charged if they’re false. Those witnesses are directly quoting the president in encouraging others not to look for documents or allegedly to conceal them. It’s damaging.”

    — Former Trump attorney TIMOTHY PARLATORE noted to CNN’s Jake Tapper that Smith charged Trump for mishandling only 31 classified documents of the hundreds he was found to possess, suggesting that the prosecutors have a high level of confidence they can make their Espionage Act case.

    “It does seem that they are saying that these 31, at least, they think that they can prove that these are national defense” concerns, he said.

    — Even Trump ally ALAN DERSHOWITZ, who defended him during the first impeachment trial in the Senate, appeared to change his tune about the charges. Before they were unveiled, he called the prosecution “potentially dangerous to the rule of law” and argued it would lead presidents to “weaponize the criminal justice system against their political opponents.”

    On Fox Business last night, he acknowledged Trump faced serious peril surrounding the recording of the ex-president showing one of the classified documents to an unidentified writer while discussing how he could have declassified them when he was president but didn’t and now couldn’t.

    “This is the one that should be worrisome to the president, and he may have an answer for it,” Dershowitz said."


    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.