Uhmmm....

dmchicago

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

Now we're getting somewhere!

kl8ton

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JohnInCarolina said:

I’m trying to imagine Melania teaching at a community college and... nope.

I mean if it fit Vladimir's agenda I could see it.

Ok, I got to get a T/O.

 I need 1 Off topic to bat for the cycle. Somebody help a brotha out.

You have to come by it organically.... you can't ask for it!   😁

thetrim

So @caliking if you had to give Michelle(sic) Obama a visit from Dr Jellyfinger, would you have the g@ddamn common courtesy to give her(sic) a reach around

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

So @caliking if you had to give Michelle(sic) Obama a visit from Dr Jellyfinger, would you have the g@ddamn common courtesy to give her(sic) a reach around

What the F is wrong with you?

Botch

Ozzie_Isaac said:
I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

Nope. A golf ball flies through the air, which is a compressible fluid.  Water is a non-compressible fluid, and the drag calculations are totally different [/failed Aerospace engineer].  Compressible vs. Non-Compressible fluid differences also explain the differences between pneumatic vs. hydraulic power systems.
  
Another interesting aspect about aerodynamic drag (air/compressible fluid) is... nose cones!  Note that the front of every airline plane, the nose is rounded; it is the configuration that has the least drag/max fuel efficiency.... at subsonic speeds.  Our fighter jets (F-15/F-16/F-35, and those silly Navy planes) have pointed noses, as the drag is reduced substantially... at supersonic speeds.  
The one exception to this rule is the USAF B-1 bomber.  The B-1A was designed as a low-altitude, supersonic bomber, with a pointed nose, but the low-terrain radar couldn't quite keep up.  The follow-on B-1B bomber (which make up our fleet) was throttled down to subsonic speeds, but they kept the pointed nose.  I don't know if it was to still fit the radars, or aesthetics... 

HeavyG

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HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

dmchicago

JohnInCarolina said:

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thetrim said:

So @caliking if you had to give Michelle(sic) Obama a visit from Dr Jellyfinger, would you have the g@ddamn common courtesy to give her(sic) a reach around

What the F is wrong with you?

Strong, smart and most improtantly, powerful women terrify trimmer.

Can you imaging how many women rejected him over the years to create this mindset?

JohnInCarolina

HeavyG said:

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Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

Now that - is cool!

JohnInCarolina

dbCooper said:

I've followed this thread enough to know the following is OT (meaning serious), no apologies, you were warned.

The rowing discussion made me recall an episode of a PBS series called American Experience.  It details the team from Washington St. that went to the 1936 Berlin Olympics.  They did not disappoint.  For those that enjoy a underdog story and have an hour to spare more information is here...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/boys36/

I’ve read that book - it’s a good one.  The other rowing book that’s really pretty great is Assault on Lake Casitas by Brad Lewis.

thetrim

Not  true @dmchicago. Interesting to see how many here either fall in the can’t take a joke group or let’s blindly support the most anti-American first spouse in history group 

dmchicago

thetrim said:

Not  true @dmchicago. Interesting to see how many here either fall in the can’t take a joke group or let’s blindly support the most anti-American first spouse in history group 

What the F is wrong with you?

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

Not  true @dmchicago. Interesting to see how many here either fall in the can’t take a joke group or let’s blindly support the most anti-American first spouse in history group 

And then there is the “unhealthy and bizarre obsession with Michelle Obama” group, that only appears to have a single member.

HeavyG

Foils are awesome!
Don't need to go fast in water to get a foil up on plane but once you do you can go very fast. It's not rowing, but if you're not familiar with the SailGP series of international races using the F50 catamarans you should check out some videos. Gotta love a sailboat that can hit 50knots in a 15knot wind.

JohnEggGio

A childhood buddy's grandfather won 2 olympic silvers.  Always been a fan.

caliking

thetrim said:

So @caliking if you had to give Michelle(sic) Obama a visit from Dr Jellyfinger, would you have the g@ddamn common courtesy to give her(sic) a reach around

Wait... hold on... people use jelly?!?

thetrim

Hahaha

WeberWho

caliking said:

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thetrim said:

So @caliking if you had to give Michelle(sic) Obama a visit from Dr Jellyfinger, would you have the g@ddamn common courtesy to give her(sic) a reach around

Wait... hold on... people use jelly?!?

My friend/teammate/pitcher took a line drive off his glove and bounced and hit him just above his eyebrow tonight. It ended up splitting his eyebrow and had a nice bloody mess. My other teammate and I tried to convince him that he needed to go to Walgreens after the game and get icy/hot KY Jelly for the wound. We really tried to convince him that it was the best option since he didn't have mycitracin at home for the cut. 

dmchicago

#Brayden Harrington

Ozzie_Isaac

HeavyG said:

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Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

That is awesome!  Thank you for sharing.  The internet is an amazing thing.  To live in a time when a significant portion of human knowledge is at our finger tips is amazing.

......and we use it for cats and juvenile insults.  Aliens probably avoid us.

Eoin

caliking said:

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GATraveller said:

A  guy goes to see a gastroenterologist.

Doctor - " I have to do a rectal exam. Its normal to feel some discomfort during the exam."

Guy - "OK. But how come BOTH of your hands are on my shoulders?"

You should save revelations like this for your autobiography.

JohnInCarolina

dmchicago said:

#Brayden Harrington

Man that took guts.

dmchicago

JohnInCarolina said:

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dmchicago said:

#Brayden Harrington

Man that took guts.

I’m sure he’ll be made fun of next week. 

YukonRon

dmchicago said:

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JohnInCarolina said:

dmchicago said:

#Brayden Harrington

Man that took guts.

I’m sure he’ll be made fun of next week. 

Doubt it will take that long.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Ozzie_Isaac said:

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HeavyG said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

That is awesome!  Thank you for sharing.  The internet is an amazing thing.  To live in a time when a significant portion of human knowledge is at our finger tips is amazing.

......and we use it for cats raccoons and juvenile insults.  Aliens probably avoid us.

FTFY

EzraBrooks

Ozzie_Isaac said:

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HeavyG said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

That is awesome!  Thank you for sharing.  The internet is an amazing thing.  To live in a time when a significant portion of human knowledge is at our finger tips is amazing.

......and we use it for cats and juvenile insults.  Aliens probably avoid us.

Of course aliens avoid us.  We steal their DNA to use in medical treatments!

The Cen-Tex Smoker

EzraBrooks said:

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Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

HeavyG said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Most people do not appreciate the fact that the boats do not balance themselves.  

A properly designed boat (or is it a ship?) will absolutely balance without human intervention.

Your little speedy row boats probably do not though.

A shell.

If you set up one of these on the water without anyone in them and without any oars, you'll have a hard time keeping it level.  They basically sit right up on the water and are very light, so the contact with the water is close to zero without anyone in them.  

Once you put rowers in them, all bets are off.  All eight rowers have to work carefully together.  Slight movements in the wrong direction by one rower and you're in trouble quickly.  

That is an interesting fact I never even thought about!  Is there an optimum total team mass?  I would bet at elite levels a boat is probably designed for the team rowing.

There probably is an optimal team mass, but hitting that is next to impossible, for obvious reasons.  The emphasis is on endurance, strength, and an optimal balance of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers.  

I've never heard of a boat being tailored to a specific team, even at the elite level.  

I would assume hulls are built to meet a standard design. Do different teams have the ability to design their own hulls?

Like are there standards one must adhere too, similiar to Formula 1, or the clearly inferior Winston Cup?

There are probably lots of things one could do to reduce drag and thus reduce the energy required to reach a desired speed and maintain it.

I wonder of you could row fast enough for a hydrofoil?. Maybe dimple the bow like a golf ball?  Friction reducing coatings like teflon?

http://198.143.168.32/~qnkvbhfx/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Lily-Van-Steenberg-Paper.pdf

That is awesome!  Thank you for sharing.  The internet is an amazing thing.  To live in a time when a significant portion of human knowledge is at our finger tips is amazing.

......and we use it for cats and juvenile insults.  Aliens probably avoid us.

Of course aliens avoid us.  We steal their DNA to use in medical treatments!

Atta Boy.

dmchicago

dmchicago said:

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JohnInCarolina said:

dmchicago said:

#Brayden Harrington

Man that took guts.

I’m sure he’ll be made fun of next week. 

Whoever flagged this, Lit/Trim, has not been paying attention.

Lit

dmchicago said:

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dmchicago said:

JohnInCarolina said:

dmchicago said:

#Brayden Harrington

Man that took guts.

I’m sure he’ll be made fun of next week. 

Whoever flagged this, Lit/Trim, has not been paying attention.

I do alot on here but flagging isnt part of it. Useless to me if you cant tell its me doing it

thetrim

I didn’t flag that comment