Hurricane Harvey: Wish you the best, Houston and coastal area. Be careful!

SemolinaPilchard

Ah, I think I see the disconnect. The post I responded to was about someone ready to take out a looter at 500 yards. Joe horn saw burglars at his neighbor's house, not his own house, and at no time were they a threat to Horn. He shot and killed them and nothing happened to him. If what Horn did was legal, so should it be if the guy who (I assume was joking) said he is ready to shoot a looter at 500 yards does so.

nolaegghead

SemolinaPilchard said:

Ah, I think I see the disconnect. The post I responded to was about someone ready to take out a looter at 500 yards. Joe horn saw burglars at his neighbor's house, not his own house, and at no time were they a threat to Horn. He shot and killed them and nothing happened to him. If what Horn did was legal, so should it be if the guy who (I assume was joking) said he is ready to shoot a looter at 500 yards does so.

Even though they *were* robbing the neighbor's house, the two men were on Joe Horn's front yard when they were shot. His property.   I would think there's a big difference in shooting someone on your property vs someone else's with a castle doctrine. 

SemolinaPilchard

nolaegghead said:

SemolinaPilchard said:

Ah, I think I see the disconnect. The post I responded to was about someone ready to take out a looter at 500 yards. Joe horn saw burglars at his neighbor's house, not his own house, and at no time were they a threat to Horn. He shot and killed them and nothing happened to him. If what Horn did was legal, so should it be if the guy who (I assume was joking) said he is ready to shoot a looter at 500 yards does so.

Even though they *were* robbing the neighbor's house, the two men were on Joe Horn's front yard when they were shot. His property.   I would think there's a big difference in shooting someone on your property vs someone else's with a castle doctrine. 

First off, my original comment was about as serious as I took the comment about the guy looking to shoot looters. I see your point about them being on his lawn, however, during the call he made it clear that he knew he could legally shoot them for doing nothing more than stealing from his neighbor, and more importantly, he planned to do so. He tells them "move you're dead." Not "don't attack me, stop attacking me" and so on. And there is this.

“In Texas, a person has a right to use deadly force in certain circumstances to protect property … and that’s basically what the grand jurors had to deal with,” Harris County District Attorney Ken Magidson said at the time. State Sen. Jeff Wentworth—the San Antonio Republican who beat out House members Joe Driver and Debbie Riddle for the privilege of carrying the castle doctrine bill in the Legislature—suggested the law didn’t apply in the Horn case because, as he told the Houston Chronicle, it “wasn’t his castle” Horn was protecting.
Apparently the district attorney was correct. Regardless, I think if you live in Texas, and plan to break into people's homes, it would be a good idea to move to a different state.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

To be clear, my buddy was joking! He's not Gary Busey in "Surviving The Game" hunting Ice-T through the woods (27% on Rotten Tomatoes but super underrated) 

He's a normal guy with cabin fever from being stuck at home with a dwindling beer supply and way too many AR-15's 

nolaegghead

I assumed he was kidding.  Just regular gun bluster.  And I'm a troll

DMW

nolaegghead said:

I assumed he was kidding.  Just regular gun bluster.  And I'm a troll

I had no idea...

JohnInCarolina

nolaegghead said:

And I'm a troll

thetrim

Is that the former Saints WR, Joe Horn?

The Cen-Tex Smoker

But have you seen Surviving the Game? Great movie based on the book "The Most Dangerous game" that I read in 8th Grade. 

Photo Egg

Quick flat iron and a couple lamb pop racks in the rain tonight.
Can't give in to the Hurricane...

Carolina Q

Darian, glad you're still hangin' in there! Give 'em Hell!!

Photo Egg

Knock on wood...just damn lucky so far. This is not normally how things work for me so I must live close to someone incredibly blessed.

FearlessTheEggNoob

Hopefully this might help some folks out

Texas evacuee free camping

nolaegghead

FearlessTheEggNoob said:

Hopefully this might help some folks out

Texas evacuee free camping

Saves cash-strapped evacuees $12 a night in basic camping fees.  Pretty sweet. 

caliking

Holy fvcking ****. It. Won't. Stop. Raining.

10"+ in the past 24 hrs. Had 10"+ in the 24hrs before that. I think we've had almost 30" of rain since this all began. Other areas have had more. 

The lake/pond thing in the back will probably crest tomorrow since we're expecting another 10"-15" of rain. We can probably take another 12" or so of rain (I think) before we get water in the house. Scrounged around the garage and found 80lbs of sand and about 180lbs of mulch, so I guess we'll be bagging the doors with that. And yes, I have considered wrapping up bags of lump in trash bags to barricade the doors. We'll see if it comes to that.

Finally watched some news and the devastation is heartbreaking. We've been lucky so far, but the same cannot be said for thousands of people. At least the number of lives lost has been low, but that's not much consolation.

Let's see what tomorrow brings. May have to start moving furniture upstairs.

caliking

And I don't care what those jack@sses at the bar say about you @The Cen-Tex Smoker , you're an ok sort.

nolaegghead

Just watched a bunch of footage and interviews from Katy. 

@caliking Sounds like you're much luckier than many, hope that water stays below the front steps. 

I almost have PTSD watching all this.  I'm just thinking about what we went through, and our city.  The disruptions to transportation, businesses, jobs, money flow, food....it's a big formula running a metropolis.  This is a giant, wet monkey wrench.

One thing I'll never forget, and it's visceral, is (and you will see)...the stench of rotting refrigerators, and sewage.  It's not so bad during the flood, it's really bad in the months after.  You never get used to it.

Storm chasers will prey upon the gullible, people will relocate.  Houstonites diaspora will be the "pariah" in other cites to narrow minded people like those from New Orleans were (although many deserved the rep).

The power grid will go off in some areas from midnight to dawn for grid repairs. 

You will be eating MRE's and canned crap, searching for grocery stores with fresh food. 

Actually you don't have the power issues in Houston we had here, so hopefully you won't have the distribution problem we had with food.

Gas will be scarce.  Lines long.  Gougers abundant.  Report them, they are scum.

Anyway, just trying to prepare you, maybe not you, but much of Houston for the months to come.

You will overcome.

HeavyG

Not a huge difference in acreage likely to be flooded in a 500 year storm versus a 100 year storm.

nolaegghead

@caliking Lump floats. 

nolaegghead

Watching the Federal response and it's like no-one learned any lessons from Katrina.

State sends a fraction of natural guard.  Later they send the rest.  Oh, we saw people sleeping on the roof of their car for two days on Teevee, lets send all the Texas National guard.

Bring the FVCKING HOUSE.  At the beginning of this when it was looking really bad forecast-wise, we should have mobilized high water equipment and emergency response personnel (and all the helicopters and airboats they can spare) from all states in a 1000 mile radius. 

nolaegghead

Phase II, on the bell curve of human decency, one fraction of one side of that curve will loot and steal.

This is inevitable, but probably delayed since most people are still around.  New Orleans was mostly evacuated by the time Katrina hit, so the scumbags that stayed behind had a largely unoccupied sea of property to prey on.

caliking

The aftermath will be horrendous. Will just have to deal with that when it comes. And yes, we've been far more fortunate than so many folks. I really shouldn't complain too much. 

Yes lump floats, but I'm pretty sure 20 lb bags wrapped in plastic will stay put to keep a few inches of water out. Even if I have to sit on them.  Either way, they are option 3, after the sand and mulch, since it's all I have on hand.

nolaegghead

Dig a borrow pit.

You are smart and resourceful.  I'm not worried you will be fine.  Except your choices in dodgy friends is worrisome.

20stone

caliking said:

Holy fvcking ****. It. Won't. Stop. Raining....

Scrounged around the garage and found 80lbs of sand and about 180lbs of mulch, so I guess we'll be bagging the doors with that. And yes, I have considered wrapping up bags of lump in trash bags to barricade the doors. We'll see if it comes to that.

I can see a marital rift in the making, with @caliqueen giving you the side eye, as you tearfully Saran wrap bags of Rockwood, "....Bbbbbbut what if we need to fire up the pizza oven?..... You know, for survival?...."  

@caliqueen pushes you aside, roughly grabs another bag and expertly wraps it in an airtight bundle as @caliprince pleads, "Daaadddddy!  Make her stop!!!  WE'RE UNDER 500 LBS!"

You emerge days later with a dry house, the lump having given itself to keep 5 NIB WSMs dry, a broken man.

Hurricanes are tough

JohnInCarolina

https://twitter.com/jeggit/status/902048241646280704 

buzd504

JohnInCarolina said:

https://twitter.com/jeggit/status/902048241646280704 

We saw that same shark in Katrina!

JohnInCarolina

buzd504 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

https://twitter.com/jeggit/status/902048241646280704 

We saw that same shark in Katrina!

Amazing nobody's killed him yet, right?!?!

theyolksonyou

JohnInCarolina said:

buzd504 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

https://twitter.com/jeggit/status/902048241646280704 

We saw that same shark in Katrina!

Amazing nobody's killed him yet, right?!?!

It's not often a shark gets to tour a major city. Glad to see he's taking advantage of his chances. 

thetrim

Texas Rangers are a bunch of dixxxx.

DoubleEgger

Where's Joel Osteen and his mega church? He's claiming it's flooded. Hmmmm