And Thus It Was.

SGH

@nolaegghead‌
I hear ya brother.

DMW

@SGH I am serious. I have been wanting to attend a butchering class. I would gladly man the smokers in exchange for a real class.

Botch

SGH said:

Save your money my friend. Buy Victorinox. For meat there is nothing better no matter how much it costs or who is endorsing it. Trust me on this one.

 

I appreciate the Victorinox, in fact I bought a set for my ex-GF's daughter when she got married, outstanding value for the money.

However, they're not for me, the handles are just too small for my big hands.  The Henckels fit me perfectly, and I've been using the set I bought almost 30 years ago, and I expect them to outlast me.  The cost is long forgotten, but I smile every time I pick them up; I'm happy!  

I don't see myself cutting down any primals in the future, so I think I'll stick to my proven (for me) setup.  

:-bd

SGH

@Botch‌
I got to ask brother. What style knives were they? Boning, general cutlery, chef? The reason that I ask is I'm not a fan of all things Victorinox. Only the massive breaking knives. The handles are far from small. Shouldn't be a issue as the breakers are overly large.

SGH

@DMW‌
I'm dead serious myself.

thetrim

@SGH @DMW @nolaegghead and here I thought cowtipping was the most fun one could have with the bovine species....

The Cen-Tex Smoker

SGH said:

@DMW‌ I'm dead serious myself.

Me too. You know I'll cook. Those knives were awesome. On order- 14" and 12". I've only done primal butchering but never carcass. I'm all in on that deal. we will set up unit 6 for a 225 low and slow the night before and show them how it's done. I was really disappointed in the firmness of those briskets but they tasted ok.

cazzy

I'm down as well if you need another hack to help cook. I am not missing the next camp.

SGH

Brother Tex let me highly recommend one more if I may sir. Get the Victorinox 8" Breaking Knife. It will quickly become the most used knife that you own. I only brought the two giants to get people's attention and it worked. The 8" Breaking Knife is their flagship breaker. It is perfect for all subprimal and rough cut work. It's truly a must have my friend. I hope you trust me on this one.

thetrim

I'll drink w/ @piney and the Party Monster and the Idiot Son if that'll help you, @SGH

SGH

@cazzy‌
All jokes aside. It would be my honor to have you at the helm of Unit #7 running a few hundred pounds of brisket.

The Cen-Tex Smoker

SGH said:

Brother Tex let me highly recommend one more if I may sir. Get the Victorinox 8" Breaking Knife. It will quickly become the most used knife that you own. I only brought the two giants to get people's attention and it worked. The 8" Breaking Knife is their flagship breaker. It is perfect for all subprimal and rough cut work. It's truly a must have my friend. I hope you trust me on this one.

can't pass that up. I really enjoyed using those. very badass, manly knives.

Actually, let me ask the guy who cuts my briskets for me. @eggcelsior, is the 8" ok too? I want you be comfortable.

cazzy

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

SGH said:

Brother Tex let me highly recommend one more if I may sir. Get the Victorinox 8" Breaking Knife. It will quickly become the most used knife that you own. I only brought the two giants to get people's attention and it worked. The 8" Breaking Knife is their flagship breaker. It is perfect for all subprimal and rough cut work. It's truly a must have my friend. I hope you trust me on this one.

can't pass that up. I really enjoyed using those. very badass, manly knives.

Actually, let me ask the guy who cuts my briskets for me. @eggcelsior, is the 8" ok too? I want you be comfortable.

Botch

SGH said:

@Botch‌ I got to ask brother. What style knives were they? Boning, general cutlery, chef? The reason that I ask is I'm not a fan of all things Victorinox. Only the massive breaking knives. The handles are far from small. Shouldn't be a issue as the breakers are overly large.

 

They were your standard department-store "assortment" set.  I haven't seen or handled Victorinox "breaking" knives, so they may be okay for me.  But, again, I prolly won't be breaking down any cows.  

Eggcelsior

CT, yep. 8 inches fit me just right. Very smooth.

DMW

Eggcelsior said:

CT, yep. 8 inches fit me just right. Very smooth.

What are we talking about?  :-O

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Are we still talking knives here?

Eggcelsior

What else would I be talking about? Gutter dwellers...

Philicious

Mr. Fuji is a ticket taker at the movie theatre here in Knoxville.

henapple

Eggcelsior said:

CT, yep. 8 inches fit me just right. Very smooth.

8? That's like throwing a hotdog down a hallway for you... :((

SGH

@henapple‌
Oh my lord brother Apple^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

SGH

Brother Tex don't let the 8" designation deceive you. The knife if quite formidable to say the least. Here is the 8" breaking knife upside a 9" custom made sheep knife. Notice how much larger the breaking knife is in girth length and overall mass. Breaking knives will always be far larger than other knives of the same length.

Botch

The innuendo is Strong in this thread.  

SGH

@Botch‌
I just prefer the breaking knives. They perform flawlessly. I have no affiliation with Victorinox at all. Not trying to push them on anyone. Just want folks to know that they are out there and do a outstanding job from carcass all the way down to subprimals.

SGH

Brother Tex here is another very useful knife to have around. It's not a must but a excellent and handy knife nonetheless. This particular knife is only sold around the holidays. Why? I don't know brother Tex. Just how they do it. This is a true meat slicer, not a flimsy bread knife. What makes this knife unique is that it's a true meat slicer, again not a bread knife and has a 16" blade instead of the traditional 12 or 14 inch blade that all other meat slicers have. Is this a advantage? You bet your boots it is my friend.
This is also made by the good folks at Victorinox.

Eggcelsior

Scottie, why a cimeter/breaking knife versus a butcher knife?

SGH

@Eggcelsior‌
That will take some serious explaining my friend. Call me. 228-627-5400. You can call day or night. I'm always up cooking something.

buzd504

Damn @SGH, I can't keep up with all of your awesome posts to respond.

I have some great Japanese steel, but it's chef level, not breaker level.  I would certainly help finance whatever side of beef you and @nolaegghead wanted to invest in for a demo.  I would be totally in for that!!

Eggcelsior

Thanks for the offer. I've never considered a cimeter and really was just planning on a slicer at some point. Handling your 8 incher at Nola's really opened my eyes to alternative possibilities. A new lifestyle, if you will.

SGH

@Eggcelsior‌
Here is the very short and reduced version to the question at hand. A bull nose butcher knife works better when pushing vs pulling. The big breakers work better when pulling vs pushing. A bull nose butcher knife is very front heavy in hand. A big breaker is balanced and the weight distributed evenly. Due to the Cimeter shape of the breakers, it's much easier to seperate bone joints. A big breaker is a better choice for most people simply for most people prefer to cut pulling the knife towards them as opposed to pushing the knife away. The breakers are truly well rounded and multi functional. The bull noses are not.