I honestly don’t know where to post this.

JohnInCarolina said:

paqman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Legume said:

I agree with the sentiment but call BS on starting teacher salary in Texas @$33k, it's mid $50's

Also apples and oranges if not including insurance plans/retirement. I think teachers are generally underpaid, but benefits seem to be pretty good and cost of living in my state (mostly due to housing) can be twice as much in metro/suburban areas vs. more rural/outstate and the salaries tend to reflect that. Also should note that teachers in my district work fewer than 200 days a year. Lots of moving parts.

paqman said:

Elementary/high school teacher salaries around here are somewhat low but decent considering they get the whole summer OFF.  Most have the option to work during summer and significantly increase their yearly salary.  The base salary increases very fast with years of service.  It is a lifestyle choice.

So I will push back on you both here regarding the “200 days a year” and “summer OFF” points.  In full disclosure, my mother was a middle-school reading teacher and my wife was a high school teacher for many years.

First of all, during the months they teach, their nights and weekends are often taken up with grading.  I can’t speak to all teachers and how they used their summer time, but the ones I know would also “work” on their teaching in the summer, either by developing lesson plans or by taking additional training.  

The ones I knew then and know now have not gone into teaching for the “lifestyle” because the lifestyle actually kind of sucks.

I happen to have two very close family members that are high/elementary school teachers and I can guarantee you that they have very good working conditions.  They have aides to assist with grading and dedicated time off for developing lesson plans.  This may not be true everywhere but in our province it is.

Have you asked them if they became teachers for the “lifestyle” ?

One of the main reasons for both.  With our climate, having the summer OFF is a major incentive!

I submit that the lifestyle has changed in major negative ways in the past few decades as teachers have been expected to take on a whole lot more parenting since many "parents" know they can ignore basic family lifestyle responsibilities.  But just an opinion based on limited observations...

He must've hired Raichlen's social media team.

Been reading a lot of letters to the editor at Washington Post; their new owner Bezosebub nixed the Editorial Board's recommendation to indorse Harris, and paid subscribers are cancelling right and left.  Not sure yet what I'm going to do...
 

While my laptop was recharging I glanced into facebook via iPad/magic keyboard, and saw an ad to resubscribe to WaPo for only $19/yr or something like that.  That didn't take long! I tried to take a screenshot of it to post here, but couldn't remember how to do it on iPad (I've since learned; even though my MK has Cmd-Shft-5 right there, on an iPad/iOS I have to press the Power and Up Volume button simultaneously (yeah, that's really intuitive... buying this iPad was a mistake, for me).  
Anyhoo, I went to the WaPo website and clicked on "Manage my subscription", and I had prepaid for a year, it was to expire next March, so I clicked "Cancel" (and thirteen nanoseconds later, Apple Mail chimed that I had an email from WaPo, what are the odds?!?!! )    My "message" to Bezosebub has been sent.  

I have five more months of WaPo access, and in that time 
a) the election will be done,
b) Civil War 2 may have begun, and hopefully finished,
c) Bezos will have sold WaPo to r. murdoch (I've seen unconfirmed rumors the offer has been made already)
and 
d) I can then decide whether to resubscribe, or visit Italia* for those $10 villas they were selling.  
 
*I realize Italia's government has changed, last time I checked, 61 times in the last 63 years, and is humid, so it may not be much of an improvement.  But, they also have a couple USAF bases for me (gym/commissary/medical care), warm temps, mountains, and abundant veggies/seafood/cheese/wine.  

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

StillH2OEgger said:

Legume said:

I agree with the sentiment but call BS on starting teacher salary in Texas @$33k, it's mid $50's

Also apples and oranges if not including insurance plans/retirement. I think teachers are generally underpaid, but benefits seem to be pretty good and cost of living in my state (mostly due to housing) can be twice as much in metro/suburban areas vs. more rural/outstate and the salaries tend to reflect that. Also should note that teachers in my district work fewer than 200 days a year. Lots of moving parts.

paqman said:

Elementary/high school teacher salaries around here are somewhat low but decent considering they get the whole summer OFF.  Most have the option to work during summer and significantly increase their yearly salary.  The base salary increases very fast with years of service.  It is a lifestyle choice.

So I will push back on you both here regarding the “200 days a year” and “summer OFF” points.  In full disclosure, my mother was a middle-school reading teacher and my wife was a high school teacher for many years.

First of all, during the months they teach, their nights and weekends are often taken up with grading.  I can’t speak to all teachers and how they used their summer time, but the ones I know would also “work” on their teaching in the summer, either by developing lesson plans or by taking additional training.  

The ones I knew then and know now have not gone into teaching for the “lifestyle” because the lifestyle actually kind of sucks.

Teachers here now have an aide, some two, translators as needed, and a class size under 15. A little different than what I grew up with. Give them a class size of 35, scratch the aides, and then give them a raise.
The teachers here are required to take training during the summer for skills and methods, proctor the testing as some that cheat online taking other teachers tests

https://www.aol.com/news/texas-school-system-rocked-million-075611247.html

JohnInCarolina said:

Pretty sad that Clayton Bigsby still polls at 37.7%

Just another day in America:

JohnInCarolina said:

Exactly how does sitting on a pile of garbage convey the message that you are not garbage?  Or is he trying to say that he is indeed garbage? I’m confused with the messaging here. 

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

Gulfcoastguy said:

Was he a member of Po Diddy’s freak offs like Ashton Kutcher and Leonardo DiCaprio? Both of which have decided to take indefinite vacations abroad.

I really have no idea, but this seems like false equivalence.