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  • Posts: 17,629
    @Lit There's no denying the RTIC vs Yeti 100% "copycat" and likely copyright infringements. And I'd agree from a business standpoint it's dirty pool and teetering on unethical business practices. However, from a consumer's view it's $savings plain and simple. I never said I thought it was right. 
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    :o I worked as an instructor at a vocational school with a culinary program and every culinary instructor that ever taught at the school always said if you don't want to get food poising just never eat from a salad bar in a restaurant! Go figure!

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  • Posts: 9,053
    @Lit There's no denying the RTIC vs Yeti 100% "copycat" and likely copyright infringements. And I'd agree from a business standpoint it's dirty pool and teetering on unethical business practices. However, from a consumer's view it's $savings plain and simple. I never said I thought it was right. 
    Yeah I dont really care it's just fun to mess with people. 
  • Posts: 18,479
    Legume said:
    I just ordered one from RTIC, coming out in January.  It's supposed to be better and sharper.
    You forgot about "half the price"
  • Posts: 20,889
    I use what looks like a square roofing hammer.  Is this Jaccard better?

    Don't tell your problems to people.  80% of people don't care and 20% are glad you have them.


  • Posts: 213
    I use what looks like a square roofing hammer.  Is this Jaccard better?
    Yep! It tenderizes without obliterating the shape of the meat product like your roofing hammer does.
  • I thought this was a post about weaving. 
  • Posts: 26,189
    I use what looks like a square roofing hammer.  Is this Jaccard better?
    Your way is pulverizing the meat which also is compressing the fibers. My Jaccard has 48 thin, very sharp stainless steel blades that actually tenderize by cutting the fibers. BTW yes you could ruin a steak by over doing. Once I over did a large prime rib and it was almost mealy! Since then I never Jaccard prime rib! 
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  • Posts: 10,490
    edited December 2015
    Do they make these in black?
    I saw one used as a prop in a film.  It was a stylish Hollywood crime drama that emphasized cynical attitudes and sexual motivations.


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  • Posts: 20,889
    Great, another tool to look for :(

    Stop you guys.  Keep your cool gadgets to yourself.

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  • Posts: 4,974
    My Christmas prime rib from Costco last year came jaccarded. It didn't say anywhere on the package that they had done it and I didn't realize until I sliced it. Of course it was cooked nice and rare. No one got sick but I would have preferred they didn't do it. 
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  • Posts: 9,053
    Costco does this to many of their meats if you read the package.
  • Posts: 9,867
    @tarheelmatt
    Knock Off describes virtually every "home use" kitchen/cooking vessel, mixer, sous vide, vac sealer, slicer, blah blah. I wanted the Hobart HL1400-1STD but, I'm cheap and got a quality KA instead. :dizzy: (Old small batch Hobart are almost identical to KA besides the fact the gears on Hobart are exceptional...bad vs example but, you get the idea). 
    As products are going through R&D if they can find a more economical way of building a product similar to another and maintain quality thereby saving $ and increasing their profits and pass savings on to the consumer...I say good on ya. 
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  • Posts: 26,189
    Great, another tool to look for :(

    Stop you guys.  Keep your cool gadgets to yourself.
    You're safe with the price of this tool...it has no UCB port so no wi-fi monitoring nor graphing capability.  =)
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  • Posts: 28,920
    Thundergod approved. 

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  • DMW said:
    I would recommend treating jaccard-ed meat similar to ground meat. While the risk of pushing bacteria from the surface into the interior of the muscle is not as great as when grinding, it is possible. I don't like cooking my meat to well done, so I'm not a fan. The exception would be sous vide, where you can cook at lower temps for longer times to pasteurize.

    Again, that's just me, everyone needs to determine their risk profile accordingly. :smiley: 
      
    Use mine all the time, I have the 15 and 45 blade black units. They come apart very easily. Agree with @DMW - you must know the source of the meat. I get some free range stuff that is locally handled, I trust it - strip loins and sirloins. 
    The best use, IMO is for cutlets and schnitzels and chicken fried steak. Jaccard can provide a "you can cut it with a fork" texture. We tend to cook kabobs to 140º+ so I also Jaccard the sirloin chunks. 

    Chicken breast really doesn't need it, but you can get great souvlaki if the breasts are tenderized first. 
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  • Posts: 28,920
    @RRP
    I purchased one on your recommendation. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. But that's fixing to change real soon. Thinking of trying it on some heavy Flank that I got my hands on. 

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  • Posts: 26,189
    SGH said:
    @RRP
    I purchased one on your recommendation. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. But that's fixing to change real soon. Thinking of trying it on some heavy Flank that I got my hands on. 

    Thanks! There for a while today I wasn't sure I had posted a PSA, or a death invitation! What I do HIGHLY recommend though is go back to my followup post about the 1/8" wooden ruler trick. I believe I got that from a "thirdeye" post from years ago. You will understand iffin you don't and then have that "blow up" from those powerful springs and send the parts flying!
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  • Posts: 4,483
    Do they make these in black?
    Mine is black and I got it at my egg dealer. 

    As those worried about making people sick, I have used it on every brisket I have cooked on the egg and no one has gotten sick yet. I clean it immediately after using it.
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  • It's prechewing   

    We used to buy xheap steaks when i was a kid that had been needled to death to make them 'tender'. 

    It's perforating it to make it fall apart easier
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  • Posts: 28,920
    It's prechewing   

    We used to buy xheap steaks when i was a kid that had been needled to death to make them 'tender'. 

    It's perforating it to make it fall apart easier
    I'm thinking of trying it on some flank for tacos. Your thoughts?

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  • Cube steak

    it's how they make cube steak

    dunno why the mystery 

    you could accomplish the same thing stabbing it over and over with a knife

    Used for making cheap cuts tender, or massacring good cuts. ;)
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  • Posts: 28,920
    dunno why the mystery 

    As old as I am and as long as I have cooked, I have honestly never used a Jaccard. You and RRP seem pretty well versed on their use. As such, just thought that I would ask. Think I will use it on half of the meat and compare the two end products. Should be a fair enough test. 

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  • Posts: 4,448
    Mine is black and I got it at my egg dealer. 

    As those worried about making people sick, I have used it on every brisket I have cooked on the egg and no one has gotten sick yet. I clean it immediately after using it.
    Brisket isn't an issue, you're cooking that to an internal temp of 195+ which is high enough to kill any pathogens you push from the surface of the meat into the center.  

    The only concern is with steaks, which are generally (in this crowd at least) only cooked to 130 or so.  One reason you can eat beef much more rare than other meats is because the meat is sterile, the only things that could make you sick are on the surface of the meat, pushing those into the center can let them survive the cooking process.

    There is a reason that Costco puts a label on their steaks (most of which, if not all, are blade tenderized) suggesting to cook to an IT of 160.  Now I've eaten Costco steaks cooked rare/Med rare and not had an issue and probably will again.  But there is a risk associated with eating their steaks (or any beef jaccarded) that is only cooked to medium rare.

    LBGE

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  • Posts: 4,974
    @sgh the Mexican groceries here will offer to run your flank steak through a tenderizer machine when you buy it. The Jaccard I would think would do about the same thing. 

    Heres a a consumer reports article about it. I'll be reading the labels at Costco more carefully now if I plan to eat the steak rare as usual!

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/06/has-your-steak-been-mechanically-tenderized/index.htm
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