Roe v Wade Overturned

EggaddictArnold

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1542129098742546434?s=20&t=SfEdTfUGHFKEfAyfPNT2jQ

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1542136743222288385?s=20&t=hXrCFhKoj9cuz_7kNFXWOQ

dmchicago

EggaddictArnold said:

This would have been funny to bust out when the Trumptards were comparing wearing a mask to the Jews wearing a star 'cause Hitler.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1542136743222288385?s=20&t=hXrCFhKoj9cuz_7kNFXWOQ

Corporate decisions have become more complex.

Higher taxes and high crime rates

Or

Lower taxes, lack of freedom, women are chattel, fines for helping your employees, criminal complaints against board members.

HighHeat

Cut the baby out, and get back on the line!

nolaegghead

I guess all the developed countries are doing it wrong, letting women make decisions about their body.  All the 2nd and third world countries and all the religious law like Sharia is the way to go, huh?  It's not enough that you can make that decision if you have some money, but you have to force other women to gestate against their will.  Because of magical beings that tell you it's wrong and other voices in your head.

I guarantee if your daughter is raped you are going to pay whatever it takes to get it "fixed", that hypocrisy bears out near 100%.  Other people, now that's where you find Jesus.  FFS

Gulfcoastguy

Actually the developed countries had stricter regulations than thee US under Roe. The EU limits abortion to 12 weeks unless the life of the mother is in danger. The Mississippi law that the Supremes upheld limited abortion to 15 weeks. 

nolaegghead

nolaegghead

Texas had signed a law making it illegal after 6 weeks when many women don’t even realize they are pregnant.  By 12 weeks a woman should know.  The pills work until at least 11 weeks.  I don’t know what is reasonable but I would let the medical community and patients work that out, like just about every other medical procedure 

Gulfcoastguy

So Mississippi’s law is more lenient than all most all of the countries shown. The UK no longer being part of the EU or the Ukraine for that matter.

nolaegghead

“Lenient”?  WTF!?

also

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/nine-out-of-10-abortions-done-before-12-weeks-in-many-high-income-countries/

nolaegghead

These anti-choice states have been using all kinds of tricks to run out the clock, which increases risk to the patients.  

lousubcap

As has been said, and maybe here although I did not scroll back to the beginning;  "Pro choice means just that, Pro life means no choice."  The SCOTUS ruling is a sad day for the nation and sad for the recently confirmed justices who said one thing to get the job and another when in the position.  

JohnInCarolina

Gulfcoastguy said:

So Mississippi’s law is more lenient than all most all of the countries shown. The UK no longer being part of the EU or the Ukraine for that matter.

I think you're referring to the law that resulted in the recent SC ruling, but it appears that with Roe being overturned, the law in Mississippi is actually going to end up being far more restrictive.  The state had a "trigger law" in place:

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/06/27/fitch-certifies-mississippis-trigger-law-banning-abortion-in-nearly-all-cases/

Abortion in Mississippi will soon be illegal in nearly all cases.  Forget the 15 week thing.  This is why the clinic in Jackson is likely to close soon.

Gulfcoastguy

JohnInCarolina said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

So Mississippi’s law is more lenient than all most all of the countries shown. The UK no longer being part of the EU or the Ukraine for that matter.

I think you're referring to the law that resulted in the recent SC ruling, but it appears that with Roe being overturned, the law in Mississippi is actually going to end up being far more restrictive.  The state had a "trigger law" in place:

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/06/27/fitch-certifies-mississippis-trigger-law-banning-abortion-in-nearly-all-cases/

Abortion in Mississippi will soon be illegal in nearly all cases.  Forget the 15 week thing.  This is why the clinic in Jackson is likely to close soon.

Precedence of the various passed laws will have to be decided by the state courts. Trying to figure out which way that they will jump is likely futile. Remember though that federal courts could have had the 15 week deal.

JohnInCarolina

Gulfcoastguy said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

So Mississippi’s law is more lenient than all most all of the countries shown. The UK no longer being part of the EU or the Ukraine for that matter.

I think you're referring to the law that resulted in the recent SC ruling, but it appears that with Roe being overturned, the law in Mississippi is actually going to end up being far more restrictive.  The state had a "trigger law" in place:

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/06/27/fitch-certifies-mississippis-trigger-law-banning-abortion-in-nearly-all-cases/

Abortion in Mississippi will soon be illegal in nearly all cases.  Forget the 15 week thing.  This is why the clinic in Jackson is likely to close soon.

Precedence of the various passed laws will have to be decided by the state courts. Trying to figure out which way that they will jump is likely futile. Remember though that federal courts could have had the 15 week deal.

Well the clinic in Jackson appears to believe it’ll be decided in a direction that doesn’t favor women.  I think they’re the last one in the state?  Sounds like a pretty terrible situation to me.  I think a lot of those women would rather have the laws in most of Europe right about now.  

nolaegghead

No one “likes” abortions.  There is a ridiculous narrative about how “libs” (as assholewilson calls them) are joyously promoting abortions whereas the same people are advocating birth control and family planning.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1542279426699935744?s=20&t=hXrCFhKoj9cuz_7kNFXWOQ

nolaegghead

Narc on your friends and neighbors and win cash prizes!

This is starting to feel like we’re in one of those dystopian novels that are getting banned by the same people.

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

Narc on your friends and neighbors and win cash prizes!

This is starting to feel like we’re in one of those dystopian novels that are getting banned by the same people.

Texas has a $10k bounty.  I wonder if the rapist can collect the bounty?  Maybe a pastor?

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1542208980235296770?s=20&t=0jo6f0S14Fp7wUe1vTFcIg

It’s a culture of life in that party, obviously.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1542208980235296770?s=20&t=0jo6f0S14Fp7wUe1vTFcIg

It’s a culture of life in that party, obviously.

You already have one victim, why make another one?
Key to this view is then to ignore the continuing damage and actual welfare of both victims, all while judge lets rapist go.  For facts, see any number of rich white boy rape cases in Texas.

WildmanWilson

You baby killing libs are a hoot. Don't worry...a woman will still have the freedom to murder her child if they wish so you guys won't have to pony up any child support.

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson said:

You baby killing libs are a hoot. Don't worry...a woman will still have the freedom to murder her child if they wish so you guys won't have to pony up any child support.

You seem nice.  

Ozzie_Isaac

WildmanWilson said:

You baby killing libs are a hoot. Don't worry...a woman will still have the freedom to murder her child if they wish so you guys won't have to pony up any child support.

So many assumptions.  No sure if you are real or a satire. Leaning towards satire.

Against my better judgement I will engage.  This is about much more than abortion.  This is about right to privacy, right to healthcare, and right to self determination.  If you do not see the scary hill Clarence Thomas has sent us careening down, then I recommend you read some of the legal summaries of the ruling.  This is much much larger than abortion.

Also, your (Extreme right) approach to this topic is one of the many reasons I have taken a big step back from this, frankly scary, current incarnation of the "republican" party.

nolaegghead

I’m going to have to invest in whatever companies make pitchforks and torches.

Legume

WildmanWilson said:

You baby killing libs are a hoot. Don't worry...a woman will still have the freedom to murder her child if they wish so you guys won't have to pony up any child support.

Trying to stay true to your gun control logic, you can’t stop women from having an abortion if they want to abort a pregnancy.  Making it illegal just means they’ll seek ways that break the law and are unsafe.  So why make it illegal or put limits on it?

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/1542572384493912064?s=20&t=wK1BSxQPlLT1__SuKe08rQ

WildmanWilson

Legume said:

WildmanWilson said:

You baby killing libs are a hoot. Don't worry...a woman will still have the freedom to murder her child if they wish so you guys won't have to pony up any child support.

Trying to stay true to your gun control logic, you can’t stop women from having an abortion if they want to abort a pregnancy.  Making it illegal just means they’ll seek ways that break the law and are unsafe.  So why make it illegal or put limits on it?

So why stop there? Why not allow the woman to kill the baby a month or two after the birth? If its a burden mentally or financially, just allow her to kill it and get out from the "mistake". 

My reason to make this illegal is because its a living baby. No matter if its inside a stomach or in a basinet.