Pfizer/Moderna Vaccine

nolaegghead

All the former presidents agreed to get the jab together on video.  There will be rappers and country singers etc promoting safety. 

ryantt

We started getting them today at work.  We received 975 vials this morning... and of course as we are 1 of 10 in Ohio we had to have the news there to watch them start giving it.  

My wife get it tomorrow as she unfortunately works with covid pts ( we’ve got 200+ as of 6pm).  

lousubcap

@ryantt Tremendous appreciation to your wife for what she does.  She and all her co-workers across the world are doing the true heavy lifting and could benefit form more support, at least here.  Please extend my thanks for her sustained efforts and challenging work.  A true hero!
I am cautiously hopeful that many will come to their senses and get the vaccine.  Leadership for the top is all that is needed to give the vaccine momentum.  

JohnInCarolina

I hope the publicity campaign kicks into full gear on this.  It sounds like we’re going to need it.   It sure would be nice if next spring and summer looks and feels a lot different than this past one.

Someday too I look forward to reading more about the development of these vaccines.  I hope we all come to learn the names of some of the unsung heroes behind the science of their development.  It truly is a remarkable achievement, and it’s probably something that wasn’t possible only five years ago.

nolaegghead

We could always hit the antivaxers with tranquilizer darts and immunize them in a van and let them out in a cornfield somewhere.  Maybe clip an ear or something.

nolaegghead

https://youtu.be/Ms3jvef4HaQ

Botch

Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering that a poll revealed that nearly half of medical personnel didn’t want to be the the first to take the vaccine...

Do you have a link to that poll?  First time I've heard of this.  

Gulfcoastguy

Botch said:

Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering that a poll revealed that nearly half of medical personnel didn’t want to be the the first to take the vaccine...

Do you have a link to that poll?  First time I've heard of this.  

I believe that I was actually reading it in today’sUSA Today. I know it’s old school to read dead trees but they have an excellent crossword puzzle. It certainly explains why the first person to be vaccinated in NYC was theAfrican American head of a hospitals critical care department. That you can find on ewetube.

ColtsFan

nolaegghead said:

We could always hit the antivaxers with tranquilizer darts and immunize them in a van and let them out in a cornfield somewhere.  Maybe clip an ear or something.

Down by the river

alaskanassasin

 

nolaegghead said:

We could always hit the antivaxers with tranquilizer darts and immunize them in a van and let them out in a cornfield somewhere.  Maybe clip an ear or something.

you all city boys come on out to the corn fields and see who gets their ear clipped.

nolaegghead

Lol

mEGG_My_Day

nolaegghead said:

We could always hit the antivaxers with tranquilizer darts and immunize them in a van and let them out in a cornfield somewhere.  Maybe clip an ear or something.

Maybe get Marlin Perkins, the Tiger King and that **** Carole Baskin to host the reality show.

I will get the vax, but I am low on the list. 

nolaegghead

Gulfcoastguy said:

Botch said:

Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering that a poll revealed that nearly half of medical personnel didn’t want to be the the first to take the vaccine...

Do you have a link to that poll?  First time I've heard of this.  

I believe that I was actually reading it in today’sUSA Today. I know it’s old school to read dead trees but they have an excellent crossword puzzle. It certainly explains why the first person to be vaccinated in NYC was theAfrican American head of a hospitals critical care department. That you can find on ewetube.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/10/coronavirus-vaccination-nurses-physicians-await-clinical-trails/3865080001/

A third unsure, a third don't want to be the first 

Gulfcoastguy

nolaegghead said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Botch said:

Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering that a poll revealed that nearly half of medical personnel didn’t want to be the the first to take the vaccine...

Do you have a link to that poll?  First time I've heard of this.  

I believe that I was actually reading it in today’sUSA Today. I know it’s old school to read dead trees but they have an excellent crossword puzzle. It certainly explains why the first person to be vaccinated in NYC was theAfrican American head of a hospitals critical care department. That you can find on ewetube.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/10/coronavirus-vaccination-nurses-physicians-await-clinical-trails/3865080001/

A third unsure, a third don't want to be the first 

Okay 2/3's. By the link 1/3 said they won't and 1/3 said they were unsure.

HeavyG

nolaegghead said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Botch said:

Gulfcoastguy said:
Considering that a poll revealed that nearly half of medical personnel didn’t want to be the the first to take the vaccine...

Do you have a link to that poll?  First time I've heard of this.  

I believe that I was actually reading it in today’sUSA Today. I know it’s old school to read dead trees but they have an excellent crossword puzzle. It certainly explains why the first person to be vaccinated in NYC was theAfrican American head of a hospitals critical care department. That you can find on ewetube.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/10/coronavirus-vaccination-nurses-physicians-await-clinical-trails/3865080001/

A third unsure, a third don't want to be the first 

At this point in the game, rather than 13,000 random nurses, I'd be more interested in seeing what % of nurses/doctors/orderlies/etc. that work directly with Covid patients won't take the shots until they become mandatory.

500

I’m hopeful that it gets to nursing homes soon. My Mother is a resident. But, she’s in a small town in rural Ohio, so it may not get there for awhile. She’s tested positive, but is asymptomatic. 

Kayak

nolaegghead said:

We could always hit the antivaxers with tranquilizer darts and immunize them in a van and let them out in a cornfield somewhere.  Maybe clip an ear or something.

Couldn't we just skip the whole tranquilizer step? Put the vaccine IN the dart.

"I know, we'll put mayonnaise in the tuna can! No! Let's feed the tuna Mayonnaise!" Name that movie.

fishlessman

seeing we get a free microchip with the vaccine, couldnt we just set up scanners in restaurants, walmarts etc entrance ways and exclude the antivaxers

Legume

fishlessman said:

seeing we get a free microchip with the vaccine, couldnt we just set up scanners in restaurants, walmarts etc entrance ways and exclude the antivaxers

Waiting on the 6g chip, so much better.

alaskanassasin

I don't understand the mind set that you have to go out a vaccinate people who don't want it. I also don't understand locking everyone in their home.

  IMO if you want the vaccine go get it, if you don't for whatever reason then don't.

 Along the same lines why lock everyone in their homes, I know there are exceptions to everything but it seems that if you are in a high risk category you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself and family.  If you are not, don't have any reason to contact anyone who is you should be able to go to work.

 This will be a wildly unpopular position on this forum, enter the trolls in 3...2...1..

alaskanassasin

Maybe if they did not paint the lock down with such a broad brush more people would have listened.

lousubcap

For me the down-side of this virus makes everything else out there for which we have vaxers and non-vaxers pale in comparison.  This carries quite a death penalty potential, much different than measles (making a comeback) or polio.  
If the death penalty was limited to those who get the virus and don't spread it, that would be one thing, but it's not.  
Off soap-box!

Kayak

alaskanassasin said:

I don't understand the mind set that you have to go out a vaccinate people who don't want it. I also don't understand locking everyone in their home.

  IMO if you want the vaccine go get it, if you don't for whatever reason then don't.

 Along the same lines why lock everyone in their homes, I know there are exceptions to everything but it seems that if you are in a high risk category you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself and family.  If you are not, don't have any reason to contact anyone who is you should be able to go to work.

 This will be a wildly unpopular position on this forum, enter the trolls in 3...2...1..

Well,  since only a troll could disagree with you, why bother pointing out the explanations that have been available to everyone for 11 months now. You seem to be resistant to lernin.

alaskanassasin

Kayak said:

alaskanassasin said:

I don't understand the mind set that you have to go out a vaccinate people who don't want it. I also don't understand locking everyone in their home.

  IMO if you want the vaccine go get it, if you don't for whatever reason then don't.

 Along the same lines why lock everyone in their homes, I know there are exceptions to everything but it seems that if you are in a high risk category you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself and family.  If you are not, don't have any reason to contact anyone who is you should be able to go to work.

 This will be a wildly unpopular position on this forum, enter the trolls in 3...2...1..

Well,  since only a troll could disagree with you, why bother pointing out the explanations that have been available to everyone for 11 months now. You seem to be resistant to lernin.

Ahh see, we obviously disagree so you attack my intelligence. 

pgprescott

The problem is only in small part the anti vaccine folks. There has been a full blown concerted effort by media talking heads and political actors and political “experts” who hate Cheeto man to discredit the efficacy of the vaccine. These are the ones responsible if there is a reluctance among the general public. Any carnage going forward due to reluctance of participation is on their hands. 

 As for the Anti Vaccine crowd, what are you gonna do? It’s their body, their choice. Right? 

alaskanassasin

I almost wonder if it will be the private sector requiring vaccines. For example the airline industry requiring vaccination in order to fly. I will be interesting times ahead. Just hoping that the thousands of small businesses who have been forced to stop providing for their family can recover.

fishlessman

just did a quick count of people i know and deal with, was easy to get to 20. 2 are dead, 3 currently have it, 2 of those are maskless and still going to work, the other walks into my shop to tell me he and his wife and daughter currently have it (this went over well with the employees here) 1 was sent home with it so he hired contractors to work in his home, and went riding with friends and didnt tell them til later. when this first started and i heard some countries were putting ankle bracelets on those that tested positive i thought that was going too far, well maybe it isnt

JohnInCarolina

alaskanassasin said:

I don't understand the mind set that you have to go out a vaccinate people who don't want it. I also don't understand locking everyone in their home.

  IMO if you want the vaccine go get it, if you don't for whatever reason then don't.

 Along the same lines why lock everyone in their homes, I know there are exceptions to everything but it seems that if you are in a high risk category you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself and family.  If you are not, don't have any reason to contact anyone who is you should be able to go to work.

 This will be a wildly unpopular position on this forum, enter the trolls in 3...2...1..

I think the answer is that it's just an incredibly infectious disease, and it's actually very difficult for people to isolate.

Look at people in nursing homes, for example.  Obviously they're stuck in an environment where they need to interact with others and the staff.  So you can say well the staff should isolate, but even there these people live in their own homes and have to eat, acquire groceries, etc.

I'm personally not advocating for forced vaccinations by any stretch, by the way.  If needed I'd rather see them incentivized somehow.  Perhaps people who are vaccinated receive an additional stimulus check, or something.

The goal here is really to get to the point where community spread is very limited, such that minor outbreaks can be contained.  It's hard to do that unless we get to a minimum threshold for vaccination in the community.

This is why the anti-vaccers are so problematic, by the way.  Suddenly you have an outbreak in the community because herd immunity is no longer in play. 

There is a point at which personal choice impacts the greater public, and that's the issue here.    

alaskanassasin

I agree, but for your nursing home scenario, it’s easier to lock down a whole
state than lock down nursing employees, give them hazard pay, whatever. I think hindsight will be 20-20 and hopefully time will heal. 

fishlessman

alaskanassasin said:

I agree, but for your nursing home scenario, it’s easier to lock down a whole
state than lock down nursing employees, give them hazard pay, whatever. I think hindsight will be 20-20 and hopefully time will heal. 

they have come along way with the nursing homes with lots of testing ....and less clientele