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OT - For Car Lovers: Some Recent Exotic Spottings
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billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
Have:
XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
Had:
LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby
Fat Willies BBQ
Ola, Ga -
billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
Have:
XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
Had:
LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby
Fat Willies BBQ
Ola, Ga -
billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
I read that Hertz sold off 20,000 of their EV's earlier this year for gas powered vehicles. Who would have thought rental EV's wouldn't work?"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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WeberWho said:I read that Hertz sold off 20,000 of their EV's earlier this year for gas powered vehicles. Who would have thought rental EV's wouldn't work?
-Motley Fool
"Drivers returning a car don't have time for a 20 minute fast-charge if they are catching a flight"
-ForbesHave:
XLBGE / Stumps Baby XL / Couple of Stokers (Gen 1 and Gen 3) / Blackstone 36 / Maxey 3x5 water pan hog cooker
Had:
LBGE / Lang 60D / Cookshack SM150 / Stumps Stretch / Stumps Baby
Fat Willies BBQ
Ola, Ga -
JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possiblefukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possibleMaybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
I understand that range concerns currently prevent many from making an EV the only vehicle they own. The same was true back when cars with internal combustion engines first came about. You had better stick to your horse and buggy less you run out of gas before getting to the next station…
These kind of concerns will likely be reduced over time as battery technology improves along with the charging infrastructure."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
I understand that range concerns currently prevent many from making an EV the only vehicle they own. The same was true back when cars with internal combustion engines first came about. You had better stick to your horse and buggy less you run out of gas before getting to the next station…
These kind of concerns will likely be reduced over time as battery technology improves along with the charging infrastructure.
Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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Ozzie_Isaac said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
the one with the tracks would come in handy for ice fishing but would be pretty expensive for a dedicated short season hobby. my first car was a 4 door dodge dart that i lifted 8 inches from stock, was looking into a "needed" snorkel setup before i launched it 20 feet into the air rolling several times on the landing almost hit the bridge going over the highway.......had alot of time with it in the sandpits, betting that cybertruck would have a hard time following me, i once had the car stuck on a hill with all 4 wheels hanging several feet off the ground and it took several hours to get a jacked up bronco close enough to pull the car off, i had a 150 foot stainless cable to pull it out. 4 wheel drive just would have gotten me more stuck in the woods. i miss that car, had a 340 engine, did about 135 mph, could toss it in reverse at a hundred miles an hour and handled well off road. it just didnt jump off a double guard rail on the highway too well.........it did get me home afterwards after cutting off some body panels with an ax though. i have not tried this with the roverfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it -
Ozzie_Isaac said:JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
I understand that range concerns currently prevent many from making an EV the only vehicle they own. The same was true back when cars with internal combustion engines first came about. You had better stick to your horse and buggy less you run out of gas before getting to the next station…
These kind of concerns will likely be reduced over time as battery technology improves along with the charging infrastructure.
There is so much research activity in this space, around materials and systems, it is difficult to know what the (realistic) limits are. And those are the only ones that matter. The only certainty is how far the tech has come, and there have been huge strides over the past two decades.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
WeberWho said:I read that Hertz sold off 20,000 of their EV's earlier this year for gas powered vehicles. Who would have thought rental EV's wouldn't work?
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Ubi panis, ibi patria.
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SamIAm2 said:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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Electric cars are effed for the next four years. Gas prices are going to drop.South of Columbus, Ohio.
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alaskanassasin said:Electric cars are effed for the next four years. Gas prices are going to drop."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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The basic challenge with EV's and NA engines is that neither camp wants to move to a middle ground as mentioned in the above linked video. That is not a surprise given how divided we are across the spectrum.
Compromise may become the newest member of George Carlin 7 dirty words list (linked here-enjoy).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyBH5oNQOS0
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
I understand that range concerns currently prevent many from making an EV the only vehicle they own. The same was true back when cars with internal combustion engines first came about. You had better stick to your horse and buggy less you run out of gas before getting to the next station…
These kind of concerns will likely be reduced over time as battery technology improves along with the charging infrastructure. -
Elijah said:JohnInCarolina said:fishlessman said:JohnInCarolina said:billt01 said:JohnInCarolina said:GrateEggspectations said:As my father would say, it never pays to be on the cutting edge of consumer technology.We are just starting to see some of the issues with EVs: lack of charging stations and infrastructure (insufficient grid if all cars were electric), limited range, stories about replacement batteries exceeding the cost of replacing the entire car (complete with new battery), poor cold weather performance, etc.
Many manufacturers have begun scaling back their EV operations and instead diverting those resources back into hybrids. Growth in the hybrid market is actually outpacing EV growth at present.No shade on anyone who has already made the move or is considering it; I just think that it is not yet clear to me that, at this time, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I would sooner wait.
everyone i know with an ev are basically homebodies,work and around town. i pretty much would not take one to camp or off road most of the year stuck in tourist traffic in the summer and -20 or more degree weather in the winter. definitely a commuter vehicle for the time being. putting a lift kit under one may also be problematic if its even possible
I understand that range concerns currently prevent many from making an EV the only vehicle they own. The same was true back when cars with internal combustion engines first came about. You had better stick to your horse and buggy less you run out of gas before getting to the next station…
These kind of concerns will likely be reduced over time as battery technology improves along with the charging infrastructure.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
Oh just joking about @GrateEggspectations making a valid point and it turning into something. A EV was suggested on a recent trip. I have no desire to seek out a place to charge with a rental. Gave me flashbacks to trying to find a self service gas station in Italy that took a credit card.
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Checking my calendar................. nope, it's actually not Friday.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
I'm jealous if @ColtsFan gets to see sweet whips like this everyday in Indiana. I didn't even know Honda Civics were allowed to have truck nutz.
"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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Pretty amazing battery and drivetrain tech in Formula E.
https://youtu.be/YA0tDh7djRc?si=k54qOrsWYy7Ccj2f
to bad it is damn near impossible to watch in the US, unless you use a VPN.Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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That Aston is uninspiring.
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Fun day of truck spotting. These Earthroamers were huge and hugerer. The Cybertruck didn’t look as bad in person, it was much smaller than I thought. Almost a mid-size truck, which makes the proportions not look so ungainly.
Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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