OT - For Car Lovers: Some Recent Exotic Spottings

Mark_B_Good

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@GrateEggspectations ... yes, the GT2 RS is a turbo equipped vehicle, whereas the GT3 RS is naturally aspirated ... which explains the difference in horsepower.  The GT2 RS is by far the crown jewel of all the RS models Porsche has to offer, only rivalled by the 918 Spyder (hybrid).  By the way, good luck getting those cars for those prices for RS models ... often the stock is assigned to only good clients, and the average Joe pays a nice premium mark up if they want their hands on one.

Here is my baby ... it is 605 HP ... so competes with the Turbo S Exclusive Series.  A Stage 2+ TTRS

GrateEggspectations

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

dbCooper

@Mark_B_Good - Think you once posted here some track times in that machine that were impressive.  Refresh my memory please.

Langner91

I wonder which University teaches their Marketing students that GT2 RS should be faster, more powerful, and more expensive than a GT3 RS.

Langner91

And, I am not throwing stones, just curious.  After all, I got my Engineering Degree from one of the 14 Big Ten schools.

billt01

Mark_B_Good said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

@GrateEggspectations ... yes, the GT2 RS is a turbo equipped vehicle, whereas the GT3 RS is naturally aspirated ... which explains the difference in horsepower.  The GT2 RS is by far the crown jewel of all the RS models Porsche has to offer, only rivalled by the 918 Spyder (hybrid).  By the way, good luck getting those cars for those prices for RS models ... often the stock is assigned to only good clients, and the average Joe pays a nice premium mark up if they want their hands on one.

Here is my baby ... it is 605 HP ... so competes with the Turbo S Exclusive Series.  A Stage 2+ TTRS

While mine is far away from your bad ass ride

APR Stage 2 ECU upgrade / Down Pipe / K04 upgraded turbo

Your car is beautiful 

ksmyrl

@TEXASBGE2018 educate me. Seriously...not being an arse. We have a slightly modified 2014 wrangler that has handled anything we've ever thrown at it. We don't rock crawl or anything but for pure off road capability I couldn't be happier. But a Lexus GX 460? Who knew? 

TEXASBGE2018

ksmyrl said:

@TEXASBGE2018 educate me. Seriously...not being an arse. We have a slightly modified 2014 wrangler that has handled anything we've ever thrown at it. We don't rock crawl or anything but for pure off road capability I couldn't be happier. But a Lexus GX 460? Who knew? 

So the GX is what they call a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado everywhere but the states. It's the main vehicle choice of pretty much all relief organizations across the world. They aren't rock crawlers unless you heavily modify them which you can but it's costly. But shy of that they will out perform a jeep everywhere else and they don't break. Google "Land Crusier Prado Offroad" or "GXOR" to get some ideas

ksmyrl

Okay. That makes sense. I have a buddy who only drives land cruisers. I've never been a Yoda guy. Had 2 Lexus and they lived in the shop, hated them. LS 400 and RX 350. But that's far from scientific evidence. The Wrangler has had its share of "normal" issues but we've been happy w it. But my good ole American (sort of) trucks are my go to. 

Ozzie_Isaac

ksmyrl said:

Okay. That makes sense. I have a buddy who only drives land cruisers. I've never been a Yoda guy. Had 2 Lexus and they lived in the shop, hated them. LS 400 and RX 350. But that's far from scientific evidence. The Wrangler has had its share of "normal" issues but we've been happy w it. But my good ole American (sort of) trucks are my go to. 

I loved my wrangler, but alas I traded it in on my daughter's new car.  It was fun and the issues it had didn't bother me because I expect them with a wrangler.  They are like a toy, not an actual mode of transport.

Hopefully I will get a new to me one in a month or so.

Mark_B_Good

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Mark_B_Good

Langner91 said:

I wonder which University teaches their Marketing students that GT2 RS should be faster, more powerful, and more expensive than a GT3 RS.

Some people don't like having the turbo on a track ... it is too responsive and jolts the car, creating instability out of the turns.  Plus, you'll always have the effects of turbo-lag (time it takes to get going), but this is compensated by just keeping the car in a good RPM band during shift changes (above 3500 rpm).

Anyhow, the other thing I've read is the GT3 RS is aerodynamically more superior than the GT2 RS, which helps it corner a lot better.  GT2 has the power to take it on the straights ... so if you have a track with lots of corners, the GT3 could end up being the superior car ... it's not always about HP. In fact, most professional racers will say once you hit the 500 HP to 600 HP mark, you've pretty much topped out on useful performance on a track, because you don't have straight aways long enough to get the extra speed you would gain from those HP.  After 500 HP, what becomes far more important is brakes and handling ... especially brakes.  And that is another issue ... the GT3 RS has superior brake technology than the GT2 RS.

In a straight line though (drag strip) ... the GT2 RS will blow the GT3 RS (as would my car ... GT3 RS has no chance against my Stage 2+ TTRS on the drag strip).

WeberWho

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I want to say most tracks require a cage for anything 10 seconds or under.

kl8ton

WeberWho said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I want to say most tracks require a cage for anything 10 seconds or under.

Right - except for the first time.

Ozzie_Isaac

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

English and metric units in one post.  Disgrace.

lousubcap

Too easy to  convert these days but like *C and *F in a forum cook post...nothing is ever easy!

nolaegghead

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Assuming it is rpm limited, what is the calculated max speed?

alaskanassasin

nolaegghead said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Assuming it is rpm limited, what is the calculated max speed?

Drag limited? 

Ozzie_Isaac

alaskanassasin said:

nolaegghead said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Assuming it is rpm limited, what is the calculated max speed?

Drag limited? 

Speed Limit is controlled by the road signage.

nolaegghead

Yeah, drag limits it below the calculated max although there’s a difference if there’s a rev limiter which is just a setting in the computer 

billt01

Ozzie_Isaac said:

alaskanassasin said:

nolaegghead said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Assuming it is rpm limited, what is the calculated max speed?

Drag limited? 

Speed Limit is controlled by the road signage.

Hmm.......maybeso..maybe no

Mark_B_Good

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

English and metric units in one post.  Disgrace.

I'm Canadian, weight is general lbs, but can be grams or kilograms (especially for things you guy in the grocery store ... we don't get 1 lb butter bars, they are 450 grams).

Speed is most definitely km/h, unless you're in a boat, then it's nautical miles.

Weather temperature is measured in degrees Celsius, but my pool is in
Fahrenheit.  Air conditioner is optional ('C/'F).

Vehicle power is definitely horsepower, and torque is lb-ft.

Measuring length is in ft and inches.

Most volume is in liters ... like gas, drinks.  But my toilet has gallons per flush rating.

It's a pretty mixed mess, and I need to know both US Imperial and Metric.

Mark_B_Good

nolaegghead said:

Mark_B_Good said:

GrateEggspectations said:

@Mark_B_Good

Beautiful. Bet it’s a really wild ride. 

It's literally an insane ride.  In Stage 2+ mode (E30 mix of gas), it does 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds.

Quarter mile is 10.7s.  To give you an idea ... at 10s cars generally require a parachute to slow them down on the strip, after they cross the finish line.

I haven't tested top speed yet, I'm too scared to, but it is well over 300 km/h (probably 315 to 320 km/h).

Assuming it is rpm limited, what is the calculated max speed?

That's where the 315 to 320 km/h estimated speed comes from.  Stock is supposed to be 305 km/h ... so it means that it doesn't have enough horsepower to redline in 7th gear at stock.  And so we do a calculation on horsepower difference (605 HP crank on my stage 2+ vs. 405 HP crank stock) ... and assume that we don't redline in 7th.

Botch

Mark_B_Good said:
I'm Canadian, weight is general lbs, but can be grams or kilograms (especially for things you guy in the grocery store ... we don't get 1 lb butter bars, they are 450 grams).

Speed is most definitely km/h, unless you're in a boat, then it's nautical miles.

Weather temperature is measured in degrees Celsius, but my pool is in
Fahrenheit.  Air conditioner is optional ('C/'F).

Vehicle power is definitely horsepower, and torque is lb-ft.

Measuring length is in ft and inches.

Most volume is in liters ... like gas, drinks.  But my toilet has gallons per flush rating.

It's a pretty mixed mess, and I need to know both US Imperial and Metric.

I was working USAF ejection seats when we were building up our F-35 fleet.  Most ejection systems were built in the US (ACES II, ACES V) but the F-35 ended up with a Martin-Baker (Great Britain) seat, which used metric fasteners.  So every seat shop across the world had to buy a complete second set of tools (and unlike most "lowest-bidder" decisions, the USAF uses Snap-On exclusively).  
I was confused, I thought GB was "Imperial", but it turns out they're "mixed use" like Canada:
 

 
Actually, the US is "mixed use" too, I had imperial wrenches sockets for my Fords, metric for my Saabs/Toyota, and of course Torx for my BMW.    

SamIAm2

@Botch - our MK-48 shop was strictly Snap-On tools. Loved them.

Ozzie_Isaac

Just south of my town, we have an Interstate (I-19) that is the only interstate in the USA fully marked in Kilometers.

GrateEggspectations

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Just south of my town, we have an Interstate (I-19) that is the only interstate in the USA fully marked in Kilometers.

Just honouring your Northern neighbours, or your British heritage? Just, why?

lousubcap

Ozzie_Isaac said:

Just south of my town, we have an Interstate (I-19) that is the only interstate in the USA fully marked in Kilometers.

I call Bull$hit as there is a section of one here that does the kilos but was snipped after a few km/miles.  Seems the politicians and drug dealers had some issues. 

Langner91

I know the real formula is "9/5", but I went to Iowa, so I just round that to 2.  It is close enough for most things.

With that said, I just double it and add 32 when converting between metric and US measurements.  Its not perfect, but it gets me in the ballpark.  I don't understand why people resist the metric system.

1 pound = (1*2)+32~34kg
1 gallon = (1*2)+32~34litres

Nothin' to it!  Saves a lot of time!

Botch

Langner91 said:

I know the real formula is "9/5", but I went to Iowa, so I just round that to 2.  It is close enough for most things.

With that said, I just double it and add 32 when converting between metric and US measurements.  Its not perfect, but it gets me in the ballpark. 
1 pound = (1*2)+32~34kg
1 gallon = (1*2)+32~34litres

Nothin' to it!  Saves a lot of time!

5˚F = 9˚C + 160 **
That 9/5 ratio actually applies to temperatures too, and a lot more accurately (I went to Iowa State ).
 
You also said

 I don't understand why people resist the metric system.

We came very, very close to converting when I was in late Jr High/HS ('74 - '78) but the pocket calculator came along, I think that's what killed the effort.  Like a lot of things (COVID masks, DVORAK keyboards, etc) we yanks steadfastly refuse some up-front pain to make our future lives, and those of our kids, so much better.  
 
**EDIT:  Got to thinking about it, this 9/5 ratio thingie must be a huge coincidence.
Imperial Length was determined by the distance from some English queen's chin to one of her fingers, that defined a yard, and the rest were divisions/multis of that (iirc).  Metric Length was a meter (again iirc) 1/10,000,000 of the distance between the Equator and either pole, this distance was carefully measured and cut on a rod in some European Standards museum.  (It was later discovered they were off a smidge, so they based a meter on the xx,xxx,xxx.69 wavelengths of some isotope of, Cesium? (broken record: iirc).  
 
Imperial Weight (the pound) is based on: I can't recall at all***.  Metric Weight is the gravitational force applied to exactly 1 Liter (defined by Length X 3) of pure liquid-phase water.  
 
Imperial Temperature is set at 32.something-something˚ for the freezing point of water, and 212.something˚ for boiling water at STP/sea level.  The above **  equation is close enough even for the ISU guys but again, how did the 9/5 ratio come out so close?  
 
***EDIT:  "IIRC"... I've been retired for 3 years now, and it kinda scares me how much all the physics, chem, math, and engineering I learned from Jr Hi thru 3 degrees has been replaced by "who posts the best cat videos, and what time does the Sr Citizen discount kick in at the Golden Corral?"  Yikes.