Uhmmm....

JohnInCarolina

Womp womp.

nolaegghead

There's a pretty good chance the Dems will win the popular vote again.

GATraveller

Botch said:

Battleborn said:
While I'm not here to say that this was a good use of force. Maybe, on this one we should let the investigation play out before we talk about shooting an unarmed man. 

There is a HELL of a lot more we ALL need to know, before judging this situation; despite so many already having done so...  

What a terrible position to put those police officers in. 

JohnInCarolina

Here's the video by the way, if you haven't seen it:

http://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=20

GATraveller

JohnInCarolina said:

Here's the video by the way, if you haven't seen it:

http://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=20

Why in the world someone would try to continue about their business as if it was no thing is beyond me. I can't say, for certain, that I wouldnt shoot in that situation.  There is zero chance this will ever get better when people refuse to be compliant with an officers commands. 

Canugghead

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JohnInCarolina

GATraveller said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Here's the video by the way, if you haven't seen it:

http://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=20

Why in the world someone would try to continue about their business as if it was no thing is beyond me. I can't say, for certain, that I wouldnt shoot in that situation.  There is zero chance this will ever get better when people refuse to be compliant with an officers commands. 

I wouldn't walk away from an officer yelling at me either, but I was still shocked to see him get shot in the back the way that he was.  While he is not paying attention to the officers, he is also walking away from them and does not appear to be threatening them in any kind of a physical manner.  I have a hard time simply rationalizing away him getting shot seven times in the back under those circumstances.  

But as others have said upstream, perhaps we should all cool our jets a bit and wait to see what the investigation reveals.  And also what the man says when he comes out of the critical care unit.  The latest reports are that he's alive and has some paralysis below the waist, which hopefully isn't permanent.  

GATraveller

I've made my kids watch this video to ensure they understand why it's necessary for compliance. 

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1298330729890242561?s=09

Lit

Heres another video that starts earlier on the other side of the car. You can see them wrestling at the back of the car then he walks around.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l1uv7DU8Q2Y

Battleborn

JohnInCarolina said:

GATraveller said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Here's the video by the way, if you haven't seen it:

http://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=20

Why in the world someone would try to continue about their business as if it was no thing is beyond me. I can't say, for certain, that I wouldnt shoot in that situation.  There is zero chance this will ever get better when people refuse to be compliant with an officers commands. 

I wouldn't walk away from an officer yelling at me either, but I was still shocked to see him get shot in the back the way that he was.  While he is not paying attention to the officers, he is also walking away from them and does not appear to be threatening them in any kind of a physical manner.  I have a hard time simply rationalizing away him getting shot seven times in the back under those circumstances.  

But as others have said upstream, perhaps we should all cool our jets a bit and wait to see what the investigation reveals.  And also what the man says when he comes out of the critical care unit.  The latest reports are that he's alive and has some paralysis below the waist, which hopefully isn't permanent.  

The problem here isn't where he got shot. IF and I do stress IF, there is a justifiable reason to use deadly force, those shots presented the best possible backdrop. They are in a residential neighborhood and there are obviously people walking around. At least in the car (yes, I am aware of the children in the car) there is an engine block to stop over travel of potential rounds. 

At the end of the day, that officer is going to have to answer for every round he discharged. It is unfortunate that there isn't body camera footage available to tell the story.

JohnInCarolina

Battleborn said:

JohnInCarolina said:

GATraveller said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Here's the video by the way, if you haven't seen it:

http://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=20

Why in the world someone would try to continue about their business as if it was no thing is beyond me. I can't say, for certain, that I wouldnt shoot in that situation.  There is zero chance this will ever get better when people refuse to be compliant with an officers commands. 

I wouldn't walk away from an officer yelling at me either, but I was still shocked to see him get shot in the back the way that he was.  While he is not paying attention to the officers, he is also walking away from them and does not appear to be threatening them in any kind of a physical manner.  I have a hard time simply rationalizing away him getting shot seven times in the back under those circumstances.  

But as others have said upstream, perhaps we should all cool our jets a bit and wait to see what the investigation reveals.  And also what the man says when he comes out of the critical care unit.  The latest reports are that he's alive and has some paralysis below the waist, which hopefully isn't permanent.  

The problem here isn't where he got shot. IF and I do stress IF, there is a justifiable reason to use deadly force, those shots presented the best possible backdrop. They are in a residential neighborhood and there are obviously people walking around. At least in the car (yes, I am aware of the children in the car) there is an engine block to stop over travel of potential rounds. 

At the end of the day, that officer is going to have to answer for every round he discharged. It is unfortunate that there isn't body camera footage available to tell the story.

The car isn’t important to me except that he’s in it very briefly, and the officer can be seen to be pulling on his shirt to keep him out and then very quickly afterward discharging his weapon into his backside.  I kind of doubt there was much thought put into the engine block in that moment.

The officer clearly reacted in the heat of the moment, and time will tell I suppose whether or not he had any justification for the decision he made.

JohnInCarolina

“Should I not have done that?  Was that wrong?”

JonWesson

HeavyG

Trumpy does seem to be courting the QAnon crowd. It's gobsmacking that there are apparently so many of those folks idjits around that they would be enough of his base to matter.

JohnInCarolina

HeavyG said:

Trumpy does seem to be courting the QAnon crowd. It's gobsmacking that there are apparently so many of those folks idjits around that they would be enough of his base to matter.

We all like to joke about these crackpots, but I think one of them is going to end up blowing up a building or some crazy shitt.

nolaegghead

Or shooting up a pizza joint....

thetrim

If that guy had a MAGA hat in the pants, I wonder what some on here would think?

thetrim

That dude behind Trump looks like another JC - @JohnInCarolina

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

That dude behind Trump looks like another JC - @JohnInCarolina

You never did answer my question about what you think of all of this QAnon stuff.  Why is that?

thetrim

I must've missed it.  I was 60-ish comments behind and am finishing up work for the day.

thetrim

Are Qnon the people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California?  if so, I am against it.

thetrim

I will say the highly offensive "don't kill babies" night at the RNC is interesting.

Revised to reflect the libs thoughts.

nolaegghead

thetrim said:

If that guy had a MAGA hat in the pants, I wonder what some on here would think?

The guy that got shot?  I don't think any of us would feel any different.  

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

Are Qnon the people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California?  if so, I am against it.

Nice non-answer.

thetrim

nolaegghead said:

thetrim said:

If that guy had a MAGA hat in the pants, I wonder what some on here would think?

The guy that got shot?  I don't think any of us would feel any different.  

Good to know. I don't doubt that coming from you.  I'm not so sure about others on here.  Stay safe!

thetrim

JohnInCarolina said:

thetrim said:

Are Qnon the people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California?  if so, I am against it.

Nice non-answer.

Do you support those people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California? I think Biden refers to them as his base.

JohnInCarolina

Bondi was apparently speaking on the evils of... nepotism.  You can’t make this shitt up.

JohnEggGio

Great job, Nick Sandmann!  That is all.

HeavyG

LOL

JohnInCarolina

thetrim said:

JohnInCarolina said:

thetrim said:

Are Qnon the people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California?  if so, I am against it.

Nice non-answer.

Do you support those people rioting everyday in Portland and burning cities all over the country and crapping in the streets all over California? I think Biden refers to them as his base.

What planet are you living on where you think there are people crapping in the streets all over California?  Maybe give the cocaine a rest for the night pal.