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JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

74 percent cases were fully vaccinated and still you dont see many wearing masks. this was a cluster on cape cod last week

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93830

This kind of headline is unfortunate, because people are concluding that vaccination isn’t providing any protection, which is just incorrect.

the headline is a bit misleading but even vaccinated are now carriers spreading it around to vaccinated and unvaccinated. looks like your chances of getting it arent lower, just getting it bad is lower if you are vaccinated. i think i read this was actually in P-town. people really do need to put there mask back on, was in the maine I95 rest stop friday and masks were 1 in a hundred and the lot is full of florida and other southern states, you couldnt find a better way to  distribute coved thru maine

Yes I understand what’s going on.

For me the important thing is that about 99% of the current covid deaths are for unvaccinated people. That tells you all you need to know, in my opinion.

lousubcap

From @JohnInCarolina back on July 28th:  "People who got vaccinated and did the right thing are now being asked to put masks back on to protect the unvaccinated idiots from themselves.  I’m tired of a recalcitrant minority of the citizenry holding the collective group of thinking people hostage."

Nailed it!  However, I don't see an end-point to this in sight.  Sad, sad, state of affairs.  Too selfish to think about anyone else.  I will not get sucked into the "F" vortex right now although it is a struggle.
Stay healthy and safe out there-

nolaegghead

ColbyLang said:

FYI mask mandate back in effect indoors ages 5 & up in Louisiana. Including all schools. Yay

Yeah.  32% total vaccinated in LA.  Hospitals are starting to go on diversion because they're filling up with covid patients again.  More doctors and nurses are going to throw in the towel, we're already very short on medical staff.  I would hate to need emergency medical assistance in the BR area right now. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/565793-louisiana-hospitals-reach-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-surge

Off topic, but I learned that the federal government doesn't consider EMS an essential infrastructure.  And only 11 states do.

JohnInCarolina

nolaegghead said:

Off topic, but I learned that the federal government doesn't consider EMS an essential infrastructure.  And only 11 states do.

Apparently the E isn’t for Essential.

SGH

JohnInCarolina said:

Apparently the E isn’t for Essential.

The “E” is for enema. Can’t believe you didn’t know that 

JohnInCarolina

JethroVA

nolaegghead said:

ColbyLang said:

FYI mask mandate back in effect indoors ages 5 & up in Louisiana. Including all schools. Yay

Yeah.  32% total vaccinated in LA.  Hospitals are starting to go on diversion because they're filling up with covid patients again.  More doctors and nurses are going to throw in the towel, we're already very short on medical staff.  I would hate to need emergency medical assistance in the BR area right now. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/565793-louisiana-hospitals-reach-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-surge

Off topic, but I learned that the federal government doesn't consider EMS an essential infrastructure.  And only 11 states do.

Carey, thanks for calling out the EMS issue.  Former EMT here and 12-year term on board of directors for Richmond (VA) Ambulance Authority, a nationally designated High Performing EMS.  I put together an infamous presentation comparing the average cost for the city to have Bubba tow a car and the reimbursement from the state for two paramedics to show up with a quarter million$ portable Emergency Room and save an OD or defib a heart attack.   The EMS authority was paid less than Bubba. 

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

74 percent cases were fully vaccinated and still you dont see many wearing masks. this was a cluster on cape cod last week

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93830

This kind of headline is unfortunate, because people are concluding that vaccination isn’t providing any protection, which is just incorrect.

the headline is a bit misleading but even vaccinated are now carriers spreading it around to vaccinated and unvaccinated. looks like your chances of getting it arent lower, just getting it bad is lower if you are vaccinated. i think i read this was actually in P-town. people really do need to put there mask back on, was in the maine I95 rest stop friday and masks were 1 in a hundred and the lot is full of florida and other southern states, you couldnt find a better way to  distribute coved thru maine

Yes I understand what’s going on.

For me the important thing is that about 99% of the current covid deaths are for unvaccinated people. That tells you all you need to know, in my opinion.

all i need to know is that if i catch covid now it will probably just make me stronger and maybe it/I will kill some unvaccinated?

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

74 percent cases were fully vaccinated and still you dont see many wearing masks. this was a cluster on cape cod last week

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93830

This kind of headline is unfortunate, because people are concluding that vaccination isn’t providing any protection, which is just incorrect.

the headline is a bit misleading but even vaccinated are now carriers spreading it around to vaccinated and unvaccinated. looks like your chances of getting it arent lower, just getting it bad is lower if you are vaccinated. i think i read this was actually in P-town. people really do need to put there mask back on, was in the maine I95 rest stop friday and masks were 1 in a hundred and the lot is full of florida and other southern states, you couldnt find a better way to  distribute coved thru maine

Yes I understand what’s going on.

For me the important thing is that about 99% of the current covid deaths are for unvaccinated people. That tells you all you need to know, in my opinion.

all i need to know is that if i catch covid now it will probably just make me stronger and maybe it/I will kill some unvaccinated?

That is one way of looking at it, yep!

fishlessman

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

JohnInCarolina said:

fishlessman said:

74 percent cases were fully vaccinated and still you dont see many wearing masks. this was a cluster on cape cod last week

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93830

This kind of headline is unfortunate, because people are concluding that vaccination isn’t providing any protection, which is just incorrect.

the headline is a bit misleading but even vaccinated are now carriers spreading it around to vaccinated and unvaccinated. looks like your chances of getting it arent lower, just getting it bad is lower if you are vaccinated. i think i read this was actually in P-town. people really do need to put there mask back on, was in the maine I95 rest stop friday and masks were 1 in a hundred and the lot is full of florida and other southern states, you couldnt find a better way to  distribute coved thru maine

Yes I understand what’s going on.

For me the important thing is that about 99% of the current covid deaths are for unvaccinated people. That tells you all you need to know, in my opinion.

all i need to know is that if i catch covid now it will probably just make me stronger and maybe it/I will kill some unvaccinated?

That is one way of looking at it, yep!

i see now why the south is soooo f'd up with covid

ColbyLang

The south is so f’d up with COVID due to mass misinformation on all levels. Literally zero lines or appointments needed to get vaccinated here. Walk in, sign up, get your shot. They’re contemplating offering $100-200 for those who get vaccinated in Louisiana? Really?!? Our vax rate is atrocious. Below 40%. 

My kids start school next week. Ages 4 and 6. Neither can be vaccinated yet, both will be wearing masks at school (if it actually happens). I love paying tuition for private school with the huge probability of them doing distance learning and me and my wife teaching them. 

fishlessman

ColbyLang said:

The south is so f’d up with COVID due to mass misinformation on all levels. Literally zero lines or appointments needed to get vaccinated here. Walk in, sign up, get your shot. They’re contemplating offering $100-200 for those who get vaccinated in Louisiana? Really?!? Our vax rate is atrocious. Below 40%. 

My kids start school next week. Ages 4 and 6. Neither can be vaccinated yet, both will be wearing masks at school (if it actually happens). I love paying tuition for private school with the huge probability of them doing distance learning and me and my wife teaching them. 

theres no lines here either, pretty much takes three minutes, then wait around for 15. then wear a mask anyways if you are inside a public place. seems pretty simple and yet.....

fishlessman

nolaegghead said:

ColbyLang said:

FYI mask mandate back in effect indoors ages 5 & up in Louisiana. Including all schools. Yay

Yeah.  32% total vaccinated in LA.  Hospitals are starting to go on diversion because they're filling up with covid patients again.  More doctors and nurses are going to throw in the towel, we're already very short on medical staff.  I would hate to need emergency medical assistance in the BR area right now. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/565793-louisiana-hospitals-reach-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-surge

Off topic, but I learned that the federal government doesn't consider EMS an essential infrastructure.  And only 11 states do.

just calling the ems, infrastructure, throws a broken wrench into the works. just fix this essential system. going on 6 weeks to see a gastroenterologist, my doctor has sent records to three different places several times and still zip zero response. ive even left maybe 30 messages at these places and not even a call back. the health system is broken big time. is there a  gastroenterologist in the room, ive got some questions, how much iron overload can i have, how low can a red blood cell count go.....will the dvt in my leg kill me first. my rant for the day

fishlessman

fishlessman said:

nolaegghead said:

ColbyLang said:

FYI mask mandate back in effect indoors ages 5 & up in Louisiana. Including all schools. Yay

Yeah.  32% total vaccinated in LA.  Hospitals are starting to go on diversion because they're filling up with covid patients again.  More doctors and nurses are going to throw in the towel, we're already very short on medical staff.  I would hate to need emergency medical assistance in the BR area right now. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/565793-louisiana-hospitals-reach-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-surge

Off topic, but I learned that the federal government doesn't consider EMS an essential infrastructure.  And only 11 states do.

just calling the ems, infrastructure, throws a broken wrench into the works. just fix this essential system. going on 6 weeks to see a gastroenterologist, my doctor has sent records to three different places several times and still zip zero response. ive even left maybe 30 messages at these places and not even a call back. the health system is broken big time. is there a  gastroenterologist in the room, ive got some questions, how much iron overload can i have, how low can a red blood cell count go.....will the dvt in my leg kill me first. my rant for the day

just looked at a calendar, its only 5 weeks waiting, maybe im just impatient

Hook_emHornsfan_74

fishlessman said:

just calling the ems, infrastructure, throws a broken wrench into the works. just fix this essential system. going on 6 weeks to see a gastroenterologist, my doctor has sent records to three different places several times and still zip zero response. ive even left maybe 30 messages at these places and not even a call back. the health system is broken big time. is there a  gastroenterologist in the room, ive got some questions, how much iron overload can i have, how low can a red blood cell count go.....will the dvt in my leg kill me first. my rant for the day

just looked at a calendar, its only 5 weeks waiting, maybe im just impatient

My wife is having some tests run do to shortness of breath and a cough that won't go away.  One of the tests the Dr. ordered isn't available until December.  How is that even possible?  They doing one tests a day or something?  Efficiency at its best.

TEXASBGE2018

I had the weirdest thing happen Sunday night. I have been fully vaccinated since May. But Sunday evening I started feeling bad(headache,chills,then felt hot, slight fever) i slept till 3pm yesterday. Woke up this morning and feel 80% better. Dunno if I got Covid as I didn't get a test done but if I did the shot definitely shortened the severity and duration. 

fishlessman

Hook_emHornsfan_74 said:

fishlessman said:

just calling the ems, infrastructure, throws a broken wrench into the works. just fix this essential system. going on 6 weeks to see a gastroenterologist, my doctor has sent records to three different places several times and still zip zero response. ive even left maybe 30 messages at these places and not even a call back. the health system is broken big time. is there a  gastroenterologist in the room, ive got some questions, how much iron overload can i have, how low can a red blood cell count go.....will the dvt in my leg kill me first. my rant for the day

just looked at a calendar, its only 5 weeks waiting, maybe im just impatient

My wife is having some tests run do to shortness of breath and a cough that won't go away.  One of the tests the Dr. ordered isn't available until December.  How is that even possible?  They doing one tests a day or something?  Efficiency at its best.

ive come to the collusion that the doctors arent coming in anymore. i get scanned for a blood clot and so far i get meds and the advice is dont touch it by the techy. never saw the doc that looked at the results, nor talked to him, did wait over an hour and i was the only patient there at the time in the building. i really dont think he was there.

Hook_emHornsfan_74

TEXASBGE2018 said:

I had the weirdest thing happen Sunday night. I have been fully vaccinated since May. But Sunday evening I started feeling bad(headache,chills,then felt hot, slight fever) i slept till 3pm yesterday. Woke up this morning and feel 80% better. Dunno if I got Covid as I didn't get a test done but if I did the shot definitely shortened the severity and duration. 

That is the problem living out here in west Texas.  Allergies are so bad you don't know if it is covid or just allergies.  I have sinus issues and a headache this week.  Not sure if I need to get tested.  I am vaccinated and have already had covid last year.  I would think I am good to go for a while but who knows.  

lkapigian

fishlessman said:

ColbyLang said:

The south is so f’d up with COVID due to mass misinformation on all levels. Literally zero lines or appointments needed to get vaccinated here. Walk in, sign up, get your shot. They’re contemplating offering $100-200 for those who get vaccinated in Louisiana? Really?!? Our vax rate is atrocious. Below 40%. 

My kids start school next week. Ages 4 and 6. Neither can be vaccinated yet, both will be wearing masks at school (if it actually happens). I love paying tuition for private school with the huge probability of them doing distance learning and me and my wife teaching them. 

theres no lines here either, pretty much takes three minutes, then wait around for 15. then wear a mask anyways if you are inside a public place. seems pretty simple and yet.....

I can't wrap my head around how people complicate Ribs 

Legume

lkapigian said:

fishlessman said:

ColbyLang said:

The south is so f’d up with COVID due to mass misinformation on all levels. Literally zero lines or appointments needed to get vaccinated here. Walk in, sign up, get your shot. They’re contemplating offering $100-200 for those who get vaccinated in Louisiana? Really?!? Our vax rate is atrocious. Below 40%. 

My kids start school next week. Ages 4 and 6. Neither can be vaccinated yet, both will be wearing masks at school (if it actually happens). I love paying tuition for private school with the huge probability of them doing distance learning and me and my wife teaching them. 

theres no lines here either, pretty much takes three minutes, then wait around for 15. then wear a mask anyways if you are inside a public place. seems pretty simple and yet.....

I can't wrap my head around how people complicate Ribs 

I would eat ribs, but I really don’t know what’s in them.

nolaegghead

Legume said:

lkapigian said:

fishlessman said:

ColbyLang said:

The south is so f’d up with COVID due to mass misinformation on all levels. Literally zero lines or appointments needed to get vaccinated here. Walk in, sign up, get your shot. They’re contemplating offering $100-200 for those who get vaccinated in Louisiana? Really?!? Our vax rate is atrocious. Below 40%. 

My kids start school next week. Ages 4 and 6. Neither can be vaccinated yet, both will be wearing masks at school (if it actually happens). I love paying tuition for private school with the huge probability of them doing distance learning and me and my wife teaching them. 

theres no lines here either, pretty much takes three minutes, then wait around for 15. then wear a mask anyways if you are inside a public place. seems pretty simple and yet.....

I can't wrap my head around how people complicate Ribs 

I would eat ribs, but I really don’t know what’s in them.

I find ribs a bit cagey about what they're made of.

Canugghead

Wondering what are the odds banana republics of the world end up with higher vax rate than some first world countries down the road, courtesy of anti vaxxers in the latter 

fishlessman

Canugghead said:

Wondering what are the odds banana republics of the world end up with higher vax rate than some first world countries down the road, courtesy of anti vaxxers in the latter 

im still finding it odd that puerto ricos infrastructure has been ravaged by hurricanes and still ranks in the top 5 in this country for highest percent vaccinated

Legume

fishlessman said:

Canugghead said:

Wondering what are the odds banana republics of the world end up with higher vax rate than some first world countries down the road, courtesy of anti vaxxers in the latter 

im still finding it odd that puerto ricos infrastructure has been ravaged by hurricanes and still ranks in the top 5 in this country for highest percent vaccinated

Probably more resilient than whiney and entitled.

nolaegghead

I just talked my budding into getting the vaccine today.  He was on the fence...doesn't want to take it, but also harder to gets jobs in the SAG-AFTRA system if you're not vaccinated.  I told him he'd still have to get tested and he's fine with that because he gets paid $250 for each test he takes and he gets them all the time.

lousubcap

Just read an article that says that the FDA expects to grant final approval to the Pfizer-Biontech covid vaccine early in Sep.  Standby for the tightend rules regarding vaccinations after.  

ColbyLang

lousubcap said:

Just read an article that says that the FDA expects to grant final approval to the Pfizer-Biontech covid vaccine early in Sep.  Standby for the tightend rules regarding vaccinations after.  

At the point it reaches final approval, companies can make employees get vaccinated barring some religious or medical reasons 

JohnInCarolina

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1423057593577132032?s=20

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1423140728889282560

"In a statement from the White House Mrs. Lincoln stated that the play was so awful that it caused Abe to have a fatal stroke."

lousubcap

A good read regarding vax refusers:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/vaccine-refusers-dont-want-blue-americas-respect/619627/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email