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RIP--Charlie Kirk

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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,875
    Legume said:
    You're comparing the experience of soldiers in the line of duty to criminal violence?

    Always entertaining and the dumbest take I've read in a while. Notes of my dad can beat up your dad with a hint of imaginary friends.

    You seem to suggest there is a qualifying threshold for people to be able to use the term violence? Do I have that right?
    No just a disagreement on the definition 

    what some call an altercation or situation others think as violence 

    and no Mr.Snarky they aren’t imaginary 

    but here again, some think people are just lying 

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  • TheToast
    TheToast Posts: 395
    As a Brit, I come to this forum for two scenarios:

    1) BBQ advice and sharing my cooks

    2) When something dramatic happens in the US and I want to escape my bubble and see WTF other people (who I also respect through a mutual love of brisket) are saying about it. 

    Today I am very much number 2
  • At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    Ova B.
    Fulton MO
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    It takes two to tango!
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • TheToast
    TheToast Posts: 395
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
  • ColbyLang
    ColbyLang Posts: 4,385
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    ColbyLang said:
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
    I've never understood that last sentiment.  Why do we bother requiring licenses to drive cars when there are people who will drive cars without licenses?  Why do we bother putting stop signs at intersections when there are people who will blow them?
    You can practice blowing thru the stop signs in the parking lots though, those are just a suggestion to stop. Why bother even putting them there.  Yield signs mean to merge, speed up or slow down. Why does the bastard Infront of you always stop
    fukahwee maine

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  • johnmitchell
    johnmitchell Posts: 7,355
    This was a much friendlier place when JIC was participating 
    Greensboro North Carolina
    When in doubt Accelerate....
  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 7,316
    This was a much friendlier place when JIC was participating 
    Who says that he isn't? There are a lot of alias accounts floating up. Also a lot of posters who have been registered since 2017 or so but have until now posted next to nothing. 
  • This was a much friendlier place when JIC was participating 
    I don’t like that guy. He’s a prick. 
    I have a MiniMax on my golf cart
    Florida

  • alaskanassasin
    alaskanassasin Posts: 8,883
    edited September 13
    ColbyLang said:
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
    I've never understood that last sentiment.  Why do we bother requiring licenses to drive cars when there are people who will drive cars without licenses?  Why do we bother putting stop signs at intersections when there are people who will blow them?
    You can practice blowing thru the stop signs in the parking lots though, those are just a suggestion to stop. Why bother even putting them there.  Yield signs mean to merge, speed up or slow down. Why does the bastard Infront of you always stop
    Spent some time driving in Connecticut and Rhode Island a few weeks ago they are the tailgatingest mofos I’ve ever driven around. I don’t know how many driveways I pulled into to let some a hole go around me and they would hook onto the next car like a trailer. 2 lanes 40mph line of cars like chill dude.   I let one guy go by who was using my effort to stop at stop signs like we were coordinating it together, in the next town he was pulled over.  Another tailgating lady had a melt down because I wouldn’t go around a guy making a left turn at a light, 2 lane road right in town 25mph speed limit.   In topic though I’ve never heard of Charlie Kirk, some of you all need to go outside and get some air before winter arrives.
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,139
    edited September 13

    Q: My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. How are you holding up? 

    TRUMP: I think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the trucks. They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get for about 150 years. And it's gonna be a beauty. It'll be an absolutely magnificent structure.
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 21,626

    Q: My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. How are you holding up? 

    TRUMP: I think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the trucks. They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get. 
    Maybe we can celebrate Bastille Day in the ball room?

    I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

  • I am not sure there was an answer trump could have given to that question that wouldn’t have pissed someone off. 
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


  • TheToast
    TheToast Posts: 395
    I didn’t know about the trump ballroom before. But from the Wikipedia page for it:

    Trump has said that there has "never been a President that's good at ballrooms" and that he was "good at building things"
  • I am not sure there was an answer trump could have given to that question that wouldn’t have pissed someone off. 
    Trump is a man who bragged about one of his buildings suddenly being the tallest in Manhattan shortly after the Twin Towers fell.  I think the answer he gave is about the only one he's capable of giving.
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 36,662
    TheToast said:
    I didn’t know about the trump ballroom before. But from the Wikipedia page for it:

    Trump has said that there has "never been a President that's good at ballrooms" and that he was "good at building things"
    CHEETO may consider himself good at building things but he sure can't lead or manage anything outside the lens of "how do I make money off this."
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.  
  • TheToast said:
    I didn’t know about the trump ballroom before. But from the Wikipedia page for it:

    Trump has said that there has "never been a President that's good at ballrooms" and that he was "good at building things"
    I’ll give him this…. He certainly sets himself apart from other world leaders as an orator. 
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630


    Where are the lies?  This is all just common cents.  He was kilt for telling kids that college is no place for free thoughts a big ideas.  Its to expansive for that.  If you want to learn big ideas clean toilets at Walmart for ten years.  
    The lies come from the half posted remarks. That’s a typical tactic. You don’t show it in reference. Just like the empathy reference. He said he didn’t like the word because it’s was a reference to a person feeling what the person hurting feels. He stated you can’t feel what they feel so he preferred the word sympathy. This is no different than how people pull a snippet from the Bible and use it as proof without showing the entire message. 

    The statement about black women was also not truthful. He was only talking about a few individuals that used affirmative action to get a job. He never used the term “black women” as a collective group. Just showing that these individuals received their jobs because of their skin color and not their merit. 
    I voted for Trump - a massive regret.  I have found that when I put his quotes in context or watch the entire video it is way worse than I could have imagined.

    He is an objectively awful human being and a hate filled megalomaniac.  I voted for my pocket book while ignoring everything else.

    Hopefully our Democracy lasts long enough for me to try and make amends.  Not sure we will even make it to the midterms, and that rests at the feet of Trump and his machine that ignores the constitution and ignores the rule of law - not to mention human decency at every single step.
    Ignore everything else, how did that work out for you, or is it too early to tell? Just curious.
    canuckland
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    ColbyLang said:
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
    I've never understood that last sentiment.  Why do we bother requiring licenses to drive cars when there are people who will drive cars without licenses?  Why do we bother putting stop signs at intersections when there are people who will blow them?
    You can practice blowing thru the stop signs in the parking lots though, those are just a suggestion to stop. Why bother even putting them there.  Yield signs mean to merge, speed up or slow down. Why does the bastard Infront of you always stop
    Spent some time driving in Connecticut and Rhode Island a few weeks ago they are the tailgatingest mofos I’ve ever driven around. I don’t know how many driveways I pulled into to let some a hole go around me and they would hook onto the next car like a trailer. 2 lanes 40mph line of cars like chill dude.   I let one guy go by who was using my effort to stop at stop signs like we were coordinating it together, in the next town he was pulled over.  Another tailgating lady had a melt down because I wouldn’t go around a guy making a left turn at a light, 2 lane road right in town 25mph speed limit.   In topic though I’ve never heard of Charlie Kirk, some of you all need to go outside and get some air before winter arrives.
    Never heard of him either but now he seems to be the modern day equivalent of woodstock
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Foghorn
    Foghorn Posts: 10,224
    ColbyLang said:
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
    I've never understood that last sentiment.  Why do we bother requiring licenses to drive cars when there are people who will drive cars without licenses?  Why do we bother putting stop signs at intersections when there are people who will blow them?
    You can practice blowing thru the stop signs in the parking lots though, those are just a suggestion to stop. Why bother even putting them there.  Yield signs mean to merge, speed up or slow down. Why does the bastard Infront of you always stop
    This doesn't relate to the original topic @fishlessman, but I may have an answer for you.

    I married a New Englander and she has asked the same question.  My answer is that in Florida driver education we were taught that a Yield sign should be treated as a Stop sign because anyone at any speed on the other road has the right of way.  If the other road has no other cars on it, you don't have to stop and you can proceed, but the default take on any yield sign is that it is a stop sign for you unless the other road is empty.

    I'm curious if that is taught in other places.

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,139
    Charlie Kirk morphs into a yield sign discussion. Feels like old times around here. 
  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 11,549
    Charlie Kirk morphs into a yield sign discussion. Feels like old times around here. 
    Lol 

    glad to see it as well, it’s Sunday, let’s cook 
    Visalia, Ca @lkapigian
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    Foghorn said:
    ColbyLang said:
    TheToast said:
    At its core, this is just another example of the gun violence problem in America. 
    No the gun is an inanimate object , the person holding the gun is the issue !
    I always see this argument so therefore I presume the solution is mandatory background checks and ability to remove guns from people who are deemed unsafe? Why do people resist that?

    I’m in the uk and my family owned guns when living on a farm for recreational shooting and it was very little admin. 
    As a guy who owns more than my fair share of firearms, I’m all for this. But remember….criminals usually don’t follow laws. Chicago is a gun free zone. 
    I've never understood that last sentiment.  Why do we bother requiring licenses to drive cars when there are people who will drive cars without licenses?  Why do we bother putting stop signs at intersections when there are people who will blow them?
    You can practice blowing thru the stop signs in the parking lots though, those are just a suggestion to stop. Why bother even putting them there.  Yield signs mean to merge, speed up or slow down. Why does the bastard Infront of you always stop
    This doesn't relate to the original topic @fishlessman, but I may have an answer for you.

    I married a New Englander and she has asked the same question.  My answer is that in Florida driver education we were taught that a Yield sign should be treated as a Stop sign because anyone at any speed on the other road has the right of way.  If the other road has no other cars on it, you don't have to stop and you can proceed, but the default take on any yield sign is that it is a stop sign for you unless the other road is empty.

    I'm curious if that is taught in other places.
    It's taught here as a merge. An older woman stopped on a rotary Infront of me the other day while I was watching cars from the left coming around. The sign was posted yield at 15mph. There was no cars on the rotary
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,553
    Charlie Kirk morphs into a yield sign discussion. Feels like old times around here. 
    I should just vent about the new alternating merge lanes we are adding. Floridians have no chance with those while competing for road space with Boston drivers and dui maniacs
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 13,630
    Charlie Kirk morphs into a yield sign discussion. Feels like old times around here. 
    fwiw, OP yielded and went AWOL
    canuckland
  • Charlie Kirk morphs into a yield sign discussion. Feels like old times around here. 
    fwiw, OP yielded and went AWOL
    I thought the OP was JIC.  And all of the troll accounts too.  
  • I did see people stop at merges wtf is that!  In Ohio there is always two more cars after a light turns red. 
    South of Columbus, Ohio.


  • I did see people stop at merges wtf is that!  In Ohio there is always two more cars after a light turns red. 
    So dangerous. I see that pretty often here. 

    The other pet peeve of mine is being behind someone who merges on the highway at 30MPH.