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Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
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My entire immediate family all had SOS until 2pm. Friend right next door had no issues. Looking forward to seeing the overall cause.ColtsFan said:
What's extremely odd to me is that my personal phone has zero service. SOSOzzie_Isaac said:Suffering through a Verizon outage. Rely on phone for so many things when not at home. I fell like it is 1992 again.
My work phone, which is also Verizon, full signal and has been fine all day.
Same carrier
Same model phone
Same geographical areaI would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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He should have been indicted a long time ago.DoubleEgger said:Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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That is the passing of two greats in their respective sports in their time. For those who are wondering-give them a search and see what they offered to basketball and baseball.
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Taking advantage of a cooler evening. 96 deg.
Enjoying a nice brewed tea, a sunset, and making spaghetti sauce.
I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox"First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Thank you.JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
Our very US Constitution is now being ignored in the exact same manner."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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And @Buffalo /@Hannah/Heather/Heidi/Hepsibah/whatever your name was, please don't sink this thread because of my comments, rather, just nix my posts; thnx."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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The only problem with that is The Baseball Hall of Fame is not run or operated by the MLB. He is, without a doubt a Hall of Fame player. His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling.JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.Las Vegas, NV -
That tea is better than anything produced across the big pond.Ozzie_Isaac said:Taking advantage of a cooler evening. 96 deg.
Enjoying a nice brewed tea, a sunset, and making spaghetti sauce.Las Vegas, NV -
I actually wasn’t arguing, one way or another, as to whether he should be in the Hall of Fame.Battleborn said:
The only problem with that is The Baseball Hall of Fame is not run or operated by the MLB. He is, without a doubt a Hall of Fame player. His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling.JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
I was only taking issue with the assertion Ozzie made that Rose’s sin was relatively venial in nature. On the contrary, betting on baseball has been a cardinal sin in MLB for over a century.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
He should be HOF as a player, not a manager. His “cardinal sin” occurred as a manager. Steroids are a way bigger sin, they damage everyone in the game. MLB doesn’t really work to address or punish because it makes the game more exciting for highlights and the casual watcher. It is all big money entertainment, MLB hates Pete because he kept giving them the middle finger.JohnInCarolina said:
I actually wasn’t arguing, one way or another, as to whether he should be in the Hall of Fame.Battleborn said:
The only problem with that is The Baseball Hall of Fame is not run or operated by the MLB. He is, without a doubt a Hall of Fame player. His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling.JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
I was only taking issue with the assertion Ozzie made that Rose’s sin was relatively venial in nature. On the contrary, betting on baseball has been a cardinal sin in MLB for over a century.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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No. bonds, clemens and schilling should be there with rose: banned.Battleborn said:
His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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They should have banned the entire Astros organization for life according to your logic.Botch said:
No. bonds, clemens and schilling should be there with rose: banned.Battleborn said:
His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling. -
Schilling should 100% be in the HOF"The pig is an amazing animal. You feed a pig an apple and it makes bacon. Let's see Michael Phelps do that" - Jim Gaffigan
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I offer you"Shoeless" Joe Jackson.
Regarding the near term Astros-If Rob Manfred had a spine he would have vacated the title in 2018 but no chance as the $$ rule the world.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
100% agree with vacating the WS title. The Astrix will always be that for me. Should have banned every player for life too.lousubcap said:I offer you"Shoeless" Joe Jackson.
Regarding the near term Astros-If Rob Manfred had a spine he would have vacated the title in 2018 but no chance as the $$ rule the world.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee” - pretty sure that covers managers.Ozzie_Isaac said:
He should be HOF as a player, not a manager. His “cardinal sin” occurred as a manager.JohnInCarolina said:
I actually wasn’t arguing, one way or another, as to whether he should be in the Hall of Fame.Battleborn said:
The only problem with that is The Baseball Hall of Fame is not run or operated by the MLB. He is, without a doubt a Hall of Fame player. His lifetime ban remained and he was not embraced by the League. He should be there with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling.JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
I was only taking issue with the assertion Ozzie made that Rose’s sin was relatively venial in nature. On the contrary, betting on baseball has been a cardinal sin in MLB for over a century.
Again, you guys keep arguing about the HOF. I’m just pointing out that what he did was considered plenty terrible at the time. Subsequent bad acts by others don’t really change that calculus.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Bad acts as a coach does not change the fact that his acts as player are HOF worthy.Also he fulfilled his punishment of the lifetime ban.
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just have your assistant place the bets..JohnInCarolina said:
“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.''Ozzie_Isaac said:
You can live ethically and one should, and still do extremely well.Botch said:
The Dislike was mine. I didn't realize pete rose had passed; CBS didn't report it tonight, and PBS reported "the passing of two titans", Dikembe Mutombo and... Kris Kristofferson (sp?) (and I missed @Battleborn 's post on the previous page, where I just got the proper spelling of Mutombo's name).Pete Rose’s lifetime ban is over. Induct the man into the HOF.
Regardless, my "Dislike" stands. Because I'd been raised by strict but ethical parents, I'd always believed that you got ahead by Obeying the Law, Following the Rules, Working Hard, and Doing the Right Thing. After 40+ years and an early retirement driven by Frustration, I now realize that that's not how Life works. At all. Cheaters, Liars, good ol' boys, criminals and Loudmouths will mostly (not always) rise to the top. I get it, now. That is how LIfe works.
And pete rose deserves NO further glorification; I don't care if he's dead. /soapbox
on the graduated scale of ethics, Pete Rose doesn’t even touch unethical by the standards of the 80s, 90s or aughts. Probably not even his era. He was lambasted because he refused to apologize to the MLB overlords.
Baseball rule 21, posted in every professional clubhouse, since 1920.
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Again, not the argument I’m making.DoubleEgger said:Bad acts as a coach does not change the fact that his acts as player are HOF worthy.Also he fulfilled his punishment of the lifetime ban.
Regardless, as I understand it, for him to even be put on the ballot would require the commish to approve it. The current one seemed to indicate that wouldn’t happen, even after Rose passed away. We’ll see if that changes, but I kind of doubt it."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Apparently me this interesting:
I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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That's MLB having it both ways. They would get ripped for purging him completely, and it would be wrong.
Similar with Barry Bonds. He could've been in the HOF for his time with Pittsburg alone, the smaller hat years.THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER -
I sometimes forget it’s all entertainment and big business. The sport doesn’t matter. At least WWE is honest about it.Legume said:That's MLB having it both ways. They would get ripped for purging him completely, and it would be wrong.
Similar with Barry Bonds. He could've been in the HOF for his time with Pittsburg alone, the smaller hat years.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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Eating at the best BBQ place in the ATL. The tire people recommend it as well.
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If OutKast approve, it must be good! (BTW, gonna listen to Stankonia right now, thanks to this post)DoubleEgger said:Eating at the best BBQ place in the ATL. The tire people recommend it as well.I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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Well folks, we had a pretty good run as a species. We are about to learn first hand the reason for the Fermi Paradox.
I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness.
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