@JohnInCarolina I guess the way I look at it is why not you charge for your data and not give the rights away to mega data or mega government.  It doesn’t matter just my opinion, not trying to create a scene on this thread.

JohnInCarolina said:

alaskanassasin said:

@JohnInCarolina I guess the way I look at it is why not you charge for your data and not give the rights away to mega data or mega government.  It doesn’t matter just my opinion, not trying to create a scene on this thread.

I think that could work too, I just don’t see our government passing a law that tells these companies they have to pay people to use their own products.  

If more people thought for themselves and did not participate the market would balance but I think we are in too deep.   

....stranger things have happened.

nolaegghead said:

Freedom! (to sell your data).  Capitalism! (to sell your data).  Few regulations! (to sell your data).

All that stuff is always good, right?

US vs EU Data Privacy

The United States does not broadly restrict cross-border data flows and has traditionally regulated privacy at a sectoral level to cover certain types of data. The EU considers the privacy of communications and the protection of personal data to be fundamental rights, which are codified in EU law.

This is true. In fact, many jurisdictions claim that privacy is a basic human right. In the US, the Federal Trade Commission plays a role in ensuring appropriate handling of personally-identifiable information (“personal information” in many other justifications). Because of its consumer protection slant, it also addresses unfair and misleading practices. It has the power to impose substantial fines. Surprisingly, many other jurisdictions, including Canada, do not have fining or order-making powers (the exception in Canada being the ability to recommend fines in cases where there has been a failure to notify the Privacy Commissioner of Canada or affected individuals where a breach creates a “real risk of significant harm” - even this power was only received in the last few years). Changes are on the horizon though. https://www.mondaq.com/canada/data-protection/1018182/proposed-canada-privacy-bill-with-significant-fines-and-enforcement-authority

Recognizing that data knows fewer and fewer borders, increasingly, regulators governing handling of personal information are joining forces in tackling organizations having suffered data breaches, as was the case following the 2015 data breach involving adult-dating website Ashley Madison (Canadian parent company being Avid Life Media, Inc.).

nolaegghead said:

MJG said:

Signed papers for an early retirement/voluntary buyout yesterday. The next three months will be dedicated to whatever a “transition” is. I Will be heels up, and generally drunk, July thru September and then will figure out what the encore shall be. 25 years in at this company tomorrow. I had a good run. 

Good luck!

30 years at my company last month and I'd retire right now if I didn't have to pay for health care.  Probably would have hopped around jobs too.

I don't understand why there's this huge resistance to a national health care system like the rest of the developed world.  The whole for-profit system ends up bankrupting people, having worse outcomes from lack of preventative care, spending inordinate amounts of time trying to fix automatically rejected claims and doesn't allow people to take extended time off for a walk-about or to pursue their dreams (unless they have generational wealth or saved money).

</shrug>

Stops people from doing their own thing, setting up a business, creating something. The fear of no heathcare keeps people tied to employment, the opposite of the American Dream.

Soon people will be paid digital tolkens to watch ads. The funds will come from suppliers who will book this to marketing costs.  On free platforms, you will be able to pay (in same digital tolkens) to switch adverts off.  Therefore, data mining (and selling) will not be required any longer to generate income.

Privacy issues could be resolved ... but they won't ... government loves our data too much to let it go. 

nolaegghead said:

MJG said:

Signed papers for an early retirement/voluntary buyout yesterday. The next three months will be dedicated to whatever a “transition” is. I Will be heels up, and generally drunk, July thru September and then will figure out what the encore shall be. 25 years in at this company tomorrow. I had a good run. 

Good luck!

30 years at my company last month and I'd retire right now if I didn't have to pay for health care.  Probably would have hopped around jobs too.

I don't understand why there's this huge resistance to a national health care system like the rest of the developed world.  The whole for-profit system ends up bankrupting people, having worse outcomes from lack of preventative care, spending inordinate amounts of time trying to fix automatically rejected claims and doesn't allow people to take extended time off for a walk-about or to pursue their dreams (unless they have generational wealth or saved money).

</shrug>

See Ronald Reagan’s 1961 speech on socialized medicine. It would be weaponized like the IRS. Both sides have used the IRS, It’s one thing to be deplatformed from Twitter, quite another to be cut off from health care due to your politics. 

Just finished all of my course work for my solo diver certification.  Got a place I want to dive but visibility will only be 2-3 foot

BigreenGreg said:

nolaegghead said:

MJG said:

Signed papers for an early retirement/voluntary buyout yesterday. The next three months will be dedicated to whatever a “transition” is. I Will be heels up, and generally drunk, July thru September and then will figure out what the encore shall be. 25 years in at this company tomorrow. I had a good run. 

Good luck!

30 years at my company last month and I'd retire right now if I didn't have to pay for health care.  Probably would have hopped around jobs too.

I don't understand why there's this huge resistance to a national health care system like the rest of the developed world.  The whole for-profit system ends up bankrupting people, having worse outcomes from lack of preventative care, spending inordinate amounts of time trying to fix automatically rejected claims and doesn't allow people to take extended time off for a walk-about or to pursue their dreams (unless they have generational wealth or saved money).

</shrug>

See Ronald Reagan’s 1961 speech on socialized medicine. It would be weaponized like the IRS. Both sides have used the IRS, It’s one thing to be deplatformed from Twitter, quite another to be cut off from health care due to your politics. 

That's a ridiculous thought.

@Kayak.
All my hobbies are expensive...that why I had 3 jobs at one point

On we grind. A mis-step by Man City last weekend will have little effect as proved by their return to five goal form against Southampton on Wednesday.  We’re increasingly operating in the margins now with the just mid-table stalwart jostling for obscurity 

Tonight;

Newcastle v Villa,  whilst Toon have been wretched for a while the Villa are rudderless without talisman Jack Grealish.  A home win pours agony on Brighton, presently flirting with the drop-zone, so any sentient being can desire only that outcome.  1-0 

Saturday;

Leeds v Chelsea – the lustre’s worn off the hosts and they are all but safe, so mission accomplished.  Tommy’s really brought the good times back to the Bridge and so Chels’ are looking to nail on Europe next year and a possible 2nd place in the PL.  1-3

Palace v West Brom – a double derby as Roy and Big Sam face former teams.  Too little too late for the visitors or will Sam do his Red Adair act again?  Will Palace continue their eye-watering anti-football or bully a weaker team?  Probably an appalling joyless low quality kick-about with a lucky goal, what we call a  ‘one goal thriller’ because we do irony*.  1-0.  

*I discovered this week that British humour - for that’s what I tried there, dear reader, is in fact benign or warm sarcasm.

Everton v Burnley, the Toffees are 6th and as you know that’s one place off whack so we carry on playing the season.  Dour encounter but the hosts win, 1-0.

Fulham v City, nothing to see here 0-2 and possible respite for the relegation chasing Brighton.

Middlesborough v Stoke, The Potters bounced back last week and have the faint whiff of play-off surge about them.  A trip to the bleak north east to the team above them is probably the final test of their appetite for elevation. A game for the die-hards and I have to go with a 2-1 season ender, @Eoin  Soz. 

Sunday;

Southampton v Brighton, habitual losers Saints will see this as their chance of a rebound.  They saw off bottom rung Blades prior to the City drubbing and fingers crossed for the same here. Watch out for more artistic kicking the ball in to the empty seats by the filthy Seagulls. 2-0.

Leicester v Sheff Utd, the visitors are rock bottom and have thrown the manager under the bus.  This is not a season saver but a chance to clear decks before they restart one league down.   Cannon-fodder they are, now. 3-0.

Arsenal v Spurs, devoid of all the emotion it needs to distract from it being an also-rans affair.  Neither team consistent so could go either way, 1-1.

Man Utd v West Ham, pick of the week and a return to his unhappy place for David Moyes.  Mind you no-one has ever seen him smile, either.  Meh, spirited 2-2. 

Monday;

Wolves v Liverpool,  what’s the point of Liverpool, again?  Meagre former champions might do a touch better against Wolves but that’s far from certain.  1-1

To wrap up;  a special mention to the restoration of the correct balance of power in Scottish football.  Rangers have reclaimed the title and all is good in the world.  The imposters were permitted a brief tenure of primacy while the Gers were unfairly punished, but they fought back and are stronger for it.  We Are The People! 

To quote @lousubcap @j@JohnInCarolina and many others, that section is very much ‘shots fired’.  Ewe Chube it.