Dumbest thing you’ve seen today

Dobreyy den' tovarishchi!

Let us not forget the NRA accepting millions from Russian Nationalists, then using that money, to help finance the Trump campaign, for president.

ty mozhesh' verit' etomu der'mu?

Washington Post. December 2018:
Russian Agent Guilty Plea to Intensifies Spotlight on Relationship with NRA.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiyks2kyeniAhVHbKwKHXWBBRMQzPwBCAM&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russian-agents-guilty-plea-intensifies-spotlight-on-relationship-with-nra/2018/12/13/e6569a00-fe26-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html&psig=AOvVaw2nG3UgEWmeS5xUfXeakWN4&ust=1560622310220063

Kind of hard to deny this. 

NRA - Committing treason, but in a more conservative manner.....

Think about this, the next time the NRA asks for donations, comrades.

This is killing me for some reason....

JohnEggGio said:

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JohnInCarolina said:

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This must be referring to the DNC and Clinton campaign hiring a British citizen to gather information from Russian sources, guised as “opposition research”.

Nope - you're confused.  My recommendation is that you stop getting your information from Fox News, because it's rotting your brain.  

Or The NY Times...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/us/politics/steele-dossier-mueller-report.html

Just me getting all confused due to brain rot, not.

The rot is in not being able to understand the difference between the Steele dossier and the active measures campaign the Russians undertook.  As a hint, only one of them is legal under US law.  

I’m sorry, what have I said that would lead you to believe I don’t know the difference between the Steele dossier and activities initiated by Russians, attempting to interfere in our election. 

I think you clearly understand these are two separate things, I'm not questioning that.  What I'm questioning is whether or not you understand why one of them is legal, while the other is not.  

After all, what started this engaging and not at all boring to everyone else tete-a-tete between the two of us was me posting the letter from the FEC, and you stating that it must be referring to the DNC and the Clinton campaign.  

John, the second to last sentence in the letter - the Clinton campaign, admittedly through it’s contractor, solicited the assistance of Russia.  Don’t the WaPo and NYT articles clearly state this?

No, they hired a foreigner, who in turn went to Russia to collect info.  He spoke with Russians but he wasn't directly soliciting the assistance of the Russian government.  

I understand that Russia is involved in both cases, but in essence the difference is in the process by which the information is obtained and the level of foreign government involvement.  In one case, the foreigners involved were working on behalf of the foreign government and offering stolen information.  Their intent was obviously to influence the US elections. 

 In the other, the foreigner (non-Russian) was contracted to do the work and looked for info... in Russia.  The process was started on this side, in other words, and it didn't directly involve the Russian government.  It's possible Russian sources he spoke to were aware of what he was doing and were providing disinformation, sure.  Steele even accounted for this in his report.  But Steele himself wasn't an agent of the foreign government.  

Even the Republicans in the House themselves cleared this up when they looked into the active measures campaign back in 2018.  If you want all the details, you can read the report:

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180322/108023/HRPT-115-1_1-p1-U3.pdf

But here's the key excerpt with regard to Steele:

""Under current federal election law, foreigners are prohibited from making contributions or donations in connection with any campaign in the United States. However, it is not illegal to contract with a foreign person or foreign entity for services, including conducting opposition research on a U.S. campaign."

Wondering if a Canadian NBA team gets a WH invite...

Oh Bloomington

https://www.idsnews.com/article/2019/06/letter-alleges-white-supremacists-sell-at-farmers-market

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http://admitted.nacacnet.org/wordpress/index.php/2019/06/13/students-seeking-us-visas-must-supply-social-media-details/

Sofa king stupid.  The main thing this is going to do is to delay student visas, in some cases fairly significantly.  Talent is simply going to decide to go elsewhere.  We’re already seeing that.

If we aren’t going to allow them to become US citizens, what is the point of educating them? To staff our economic competitors in other countries? I find that stupid and short sighted. To deny the best while favoring grandparents and in laws of other immigrants with no further qualifications?

Good Lord, a good percentage of them do become US citizens!    They get their degrees in the US, then they get work visas, then green cards, and finally... become citizens.  It's a key part of workforce development in the US and... legal immigration. 

We have the best and the brightest come to the US for their education, and then we let them stay and work here (most want to), and if all goes well, they become citizens.  It is one of the smarter things we do as a country.  The short-sighted action is to put obstacles in front of that.  

And to carry it one step further, I am in favor of changing the tech HB employees from temporary jobs to a five year program with the end goal of permanent citizenship. Again why train competitors. Make them citizens and they will be working for the prevailing local wages.

as I said previously I am in favor of immigrants who want to assimilate and enrich their new country. Just in case it wasn’t clear.

“Tax cuts pay for themselves...”

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-06-12/u-s-budget-gap-hits-739-billion-with-four-months-left-in-year

I remember when politics got folks in trouble on here.

Obama’s economy was so stagnant, he and Crazy Uncle Joe created the jobs saved or created moniker.  

Trump has really turned aroung the unemployment rate from 42% to under 4%.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/

thetrim said:

Obama’s economy was so stagnant, he and Crazy Uncle Joe created the jobs saved or created moniker.  

I'm an engineer, and depend on data, and not beliefs.  I've presented mine, I'm anxious to see yours (data, not beliefs).  Thanks!  

JohnEggGio said:

@JohnInCarolina. A little gem in the link you posted...
U) Finding #19: The dossier compiled by Christopher Steele formed an essential part of an application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to obtain electronic surveillance on Carter Page.

Oh, and this one - I guess you didn’t actually read any of it.

IU) Finding #38: Christopher Steele claims to have obtained his dossier information second- and third-hand from purported high-placed Russian sources, such as government officials with links to the Kremlin and intelligence services.

You know what?  You’re right.  You totally got me here.  My bad.  The FEC letter was absolutely about Clinton and the DNC.  Have a great weekend.

JohnInCarolina said:

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JohnEggGio said:

@JohnInCarolina. A little gem in the link you posted...
U) Finding #19: The dossier compiled by Christopher Steele formed an essential part of an application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to obtain electronic surveillance on Carter Page.

Oh, and this one - I guess you didn’t actually read any of it.

IU) Finding #38: Christopher Steele claims to have obtained his dossier information second- and third-hand from purported high-placed Russian sources, such as government officials with links to the Kremlin and intelligence services.

You know what?  You’re right.  You totally got me here.  My bad.  The FEC letter was absolutely about Clinton and the DNC.  Have a great weekend.

Dude, obviously it was issued in response to Trump, but my point is and has been that it applies to the various items I’ve posted as well. Sheesh!

Nice try at misdirection.