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Trump Coming in Clutch!
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ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that. -
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I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that. -
Call me crazy but I tend to have a world view that is wider than my own personal path. There are lots of things that don’t affect me personally that I care about because they negatively affect others.
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So then it seems quite odd to take the view that nothing of real consequence happened as a result of Trump's first term.ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.
Obviously, at least one thing did. You just happen to agree with the outcome."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
I get what you’re saying about these folks knowing our nations secrets and the power they wield. I do. Very simple. The Senate doesn’t have to confirm them. They will, but ultimately they don’t have to. Doesn’t it seem that very few nominees are rejected would be a failure of the Senate?JohnInCarolina said:
It seems like your view is that it doesn’t really matter all that much who the President is, things won’t change all that greatly. I actually think this might be the view of lots of Americans, and I think I can understand how they got to that perspective, even if I don’t agree with it.ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:
I might return to that one later, but just to bring this back to Hegseth for the moment, do you think it doesn’t matter all that much who is in charge of the Department of Defense? What someone like that knows, what they don’t know? How much experience they have? The content of their character?Also. Is this the first administration where everyone shook their heads at these cabinet nominees? Nah, we did the same for the last administration on a few of them. -
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day. -
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day. -
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income. -
agreed, and just in case it wasn’t clear that is not how i feel, how i voted or how i live.Legume said:I got mine, it'll be ok (for me) is a sad state of affairs.
i was referring to the larger population. for example what % are people woke because of “what’s in it for me” - is the motivation internal or external. because it will be a very real and tangible change in the financial position of a generation of voters. there’s a liberal / conservative ebb and flow by age already and this will have an impact.
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The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income. -
Frankly, this just seems oblivious to the political realities at play.ColbyLang said:
I get what you’re saying about these folks knowing our nations secrets and the power they wield. I do. Very simple. The Senate doesn’t have to confirm them. They will, but ultimately they don’t have to. Doesn’t it seem that very few nominees are rejected would be a failure of the Senate?JohnInCarolina said:
It seems like your view is that it doesn’t really matter all that much who the President is, things won’t change all that greatly. I actually think this might be the view of lots of Americans, and I think I can understand how they got to that perspective, even if I don’t agree with it.ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:
I might return to that one later, but just to bring this back to Hegseth for the moment, do you think it doesn’t matter all that much who is in charge of the Department of Defense? What someone like that knows, what they don’t know? How much experience they have? The content of their character?
At the end of the day, the President is the person who puts people like this up for nomination in the first place. To take the view that if someone very much unqualified to take the role is put in place, that it's the primary fault of the Senate and not the President, in the current political environment we live in... man I don't know. You seem to be tying yourself in intellectual knots to avoid placing some measure of responsibility with the man in the White House."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Tossing private school into the mix isn’t helping your argument very much.ColbyLang said:
The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income. -
My wife is also an interior designer. So my source of income ain’t the only source. Does that help any?DoubleEgger said:
Tossing private school into the mix isn’t helping your argument very much.ColbyLang said:
The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income. -
I'm not sure exactly what you think people "with money" look like, but most people with a boat like that and kids in private school aren't exactly considered middle class.ColbyLang said:
My wife is also an interior designer. So my source of income ain’t the only source. Does that help any?DoubleEgger said:
Tossing private school into the mix isn’t helping your argument very much.ColbyLang said:
The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
How does saying that your wife has a great job help your stance that you don’t have more money than an average Joe?ColbyLang said:
My wife is also an interior designer. So my source of income ain’t the only source. Does that help any?DoubleEgger said:
Tossing private school into the mix isn’t helping your argument very much.ColbyLang said:
The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income.This is not a wealth shaming exercise. This is more in the self-awareness spectrum. -
this about the dumbest **** I've seen on the home page in a while.
South of Columbus, Ohio. -
i am gonna stick up for colbylang here. there’s not a lot of value in pushing for clarifications of his financials or buying decisions and comparing them to his viewpoints. this is not boot camp for assimilation of our peers.
if you want to talk about how common it is that people get really lean in the balance sheet while kids go to private schools and then benefit from lottery funded college tuition programs with loose income restrictions, then go for that.
the breaking bread with anyone vibe is best for this forum. no pun intended on the bread thing lol. must have been in my word cloud. -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
My wifes “great job” affords my children private school. Her great job is reflective of the scholarship she got and put to use at the local university for both of her degrees. Ever seen the stats on public school in Louisiana? We rank 50/50. Private school or charter schools is the only option if you can afford it.DoubleEgger said:
How does saying that your wife has a great job help your stance that you don’t have more money than an average Joe?ColbyLang said:
My wife is also an interior designer. So my source of income ain’t the only source. Does that help any?DoubleEgger said:
Tossing private school into the mix isn’t helping your argument very much.ColbyLang said:
The boat is a 2013. I can sell it for more than we paid for it. This was pre kids, pre private school. A lot has changed since that purchase was made.DoubleEgger said:
Dude, you just posted a pic of your boat with twin 300s. I know how much those cost.ColbyLang said:
Here you go assuming that I’ve got money. I bust my ass 60 plus hours a week at a business I purchased with my brothers from my parents. At fair market value. I eat, sleep and breathe my business. I have to. I’ve got 50 families depending on it. I sell bread, not cars. Not diamonds. Not big green eggs. And I sell it wholesale, which means it ain’t $4 sandwich bread in the grocery stores. The single most expensive item I sell is a whopping $1 individually.DoubleEgger said:
Being a white Catholic male with money, have you ever had your rights decided by a Supreme Court case?ColbyLang said:
I’m a Catholic. So there’s that. I also have parents who didn’t abort a special needs child 43 years ago (my twin). So strike two. There are very few circumstances where I’d be ok with pro choice. Very very fewDoubleEgger said:ColbyLang said:
Ask yourself how much can he really change in 4 years. Realistically. Nursing home Joe didn’t. DJT didn’t either in the prior cycle. Yes, some things here and there with the flick of the wrist, but not everything either of them did or will do is bad.Legume said:The reproductive rights for your daughters vanished in less than four years so there’s that.A lot can change for many Americans in a single day.I didn’t say you didn’t work hard but anyone who owns a boat like that is well above average when it comes to income.This is not a wealth shaming exercise. This is more in the self-awareness spectrum.I’m very self aware of the current situation. I’m aware that Trump’s tariffs threat will greatly affect my bottom line at work. Many many things used in food manufacturing are imported due to lack of resources here. My customers won’t “eat” (no pun intended) a price increase to offset whatever comes down the pipe. Major restaurants look at bread as free item. The last thing they want to do is add to their food costs, which are already higher than they should be. -
@Buckwoody Egger I did understand what you posted last night.
Put very simply, do we care, will we care when our circumstances don't have us in the crosshairs of whatever the latest political and ideological wave is.
And will we still care when our circumstances change.Love you bro! -
yes Legume -same.
trump significantly raised the standard deduction in his first term. it removed the need for many people to itemize their taxes. itemization is usually mortgage interest and donations to nonprofits. did the people who no longer needed to itemize continue making donations at the same level? that’s a good indicator. -
and don’t get me started on PPP loan abuse…. lol
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Here is a post on the natural cold weather adaptations of the bison.
https://x.com/natlparkservice/status/1883526907536502944?s=46&t=4em0LYfz5c5TFz7m1PPrBA
Love you bro! -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Was it Bill Clinton who said “It’s the economy stupid!” a phrase that Carville echoed during the recent campaign? People do choose their representatives, including presidents, based on what they think is their self interests. Sometimes like the last president they don’t get what they were promised in the general election. In Trumps case he is doing exactly what he said that he would do. In both cases they consequences fall upon the voters.
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Actually James Carville was the architect of the Clinton "It's the economy, stupid" campaign. And Carville does think the D's shouda run with that approach in '24.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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You're confused. I'm not the one claiming I don't have money, you see?Gulfcoastguy said:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
And Carville was roundly ignored. “Okay Boomer!”lousubcap said:Actually James Carville was the architect of the Clinton "It's the economy, stupid" campaign. And Carville does think the D's shouda run with that approach in '24.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDtSQVj0qzg
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