Tomorrow (11/5), voting is your fundamental citizen responsibility-VOTE!

SGH

WeberWho said:

I don't care if you're left or right this is pretty damn funny:

This is too 👍

Ozzie_Isaac

We should all take a moment and acknowledge that our wardens appear to have left.  Political thread on day 3 with no bans, sinking, or nukes!

JohnInCarolina

If this isn't nuked within a day or so I'll be surprised.  

Ozzie_Isaac

I wonder who Biden voted for?  He seems rather pleased.

https://nypost.com/2024/11/07/us-news/grinning-biden-says-setbacks-are-unavoidable-after-harris-election-flop/

RealDonaldTrump

Thanks Eggheads!

Canugghead

you sucked at cheating, blame Biden for not teaching you well

Ozzie_Isaac

Title: The Legend of Chester, the Giant Cheeto

Chapter 1: The Arrival

It began as a typical Tuesday in Shady Acres, a quiet town where nothing unusual ever happened. That was, of course, until the sky cracked open with a thunderous BOOM, and out of a neon orange streak came a gigantic, cheese-powder-covered entity that would change the world forever.

People gathered at the site of the landing, staring in shock. There, towering over the crowd, stood a fifteen-foot-tall Cheeto. It was slightly crinkled, with the perfect coating of orange dust, and it exuded a strange, comforting scent of cheddar. Kids gasped, parents whispered, and local news reporters scrambled to broadcast the miracle.

The giant Cheeto looked around, then opened its “mouth” (a small indent on its lumpy surface) and said in a surprisingly deep voice, “Hi, everyone. I’m Chester. I come in peace… and with extra cheese.”

And just like that, the legend of Chester, the Giant Cheeto, was born.

Chapter 2: Fame and Controversy

The town quickly divided into two camps: those who adored Chester and those who… well, who thought he was a menace.

Sixty percent of the townsfolk were thrilled. Chester was a kind and polite Cheeto. He visited schools, telling cheesy jokes (“What’s a Cheeto’s favorite dance? The Cha-Chee-da!”). Kids loved him. Adults found him oddly inspiring, and some local businesses even began featuring Chester on their promotional material.

The other forty percent, however, were unconvinced. They found his cheesiness overwhelming, both literally and figuratively. The anti-Chester crowd claimed his bright orange dust left residue everywhere, turning the sidewalks into a slip hazard. Worse, they were convinced that he was some sort of alien sent to “cheddar-ize” humanity.

Chester, for his part, took the criticism in stride. “I know I’m an acquired taste,” he said diplomatically, “but I’m here to make the world a little cheesier. Isn’t that worth a bit of mess?”

But that didn’t appease his critics. Soon, “Down with Chester!” posters began popping up around town. The anti-Cheeto movement grew louder, and tensions simmered.

Chapter 3: The Election

Things took a turn when Mayor Betty Broadbean, a no-nonsense woman with a deep hatred for snack foods, announced that she would be holding a town-wide vote. The question: Should Chester, the Giant Cheeto, be banished from Shady Acres?

The pro-Chester camp was horrified. Chester had done nothing wrong! He spread joy, told jokes, and occasionally offered free cheese dust facials, which the spa industry was considering franchising. But Betty was determined.

As election day drew near, both sides launched their campaigns. Pro-Chester rallies filled with chants of “Say Cheese for Chester!” popped up around town. People wore orange hats, T-shirts, and even painted their faces in support of their favorite snack-turned-citizen.

Meanwhile, the anti-Chester side wasn’t quiet either. They printed pamphlets warning of “Cheese Lung” from inhaling Chester’s dust and claiming his presence was ruining their health. They even aired commercials showing Chester “accidentally” crushing a mailbox, with ominous music playing in the background.

Chapter 4: Attack of the Vegetables

Just as election day approached, things took a surprising twist. The anti-Chester faction received support from an unexpected group: vegetables. That’s right—animated vegetables. Carrots, broccoli, kale, and even a gang of intimidating Brussels sprouts appeared out of nowhere, protesting Chester’s influence.

“Down with processed cheese!” shouted Bertie the Broccoli, a stern figure with thick, leafy eyebrows. “We are nature’s snacks, and we don’t need some fried impostor stealing our spotlight.”

The vegetables organized marches, handing out pamphlets with slogans like “Go Green, Not Orange!” and “Choose Vitamins Over Vices!” Soon, Chester’s popularity faced a serious dip. People began to question their loyalty to Chester, wondering if perhaps they had been blind to the virtues of fiber-rich, low-calorie snacks.

But Chester, ever the diplomat, decided to address the town square. “I may not be rich in vitamins,” he said, looking solemnly over the crowd, “but I’m rich in flavor. I didn’t come here to divide—I came here to share the simple joy of a snack. Isn’t there room for both veggies and cheesy goodness in this world?”

The crowd was moved, and even a few carrots seemed to look away, embarrassed. But just as it seemed peace was within reach, a crackle rang through the air, and Chester was engulfed in a beam of bright light.

Chapter 5: The Alien Invasion

An enormous spacecraft hovered above, casting a shadow over the town. Then, a robotic voice echoed, “We are the Zorbiots, rulers of Planet Cheddartron! We have come to reclaim our lost comrade, Chester, who belongs to us.”

Gasps filled the crowd. Chester looked equally surprised. “Uh… sorry, I think you’ve got the wrong snack,” he said nervously. “I’m just a simple Cheeto.”

The aliens, who bore a strange resemblance to sentient blocks of cheddar cheese, were unconvinced. “You are Chester-7, our prized emissary of cheesiness! You were sent to Earth to spread the love of cheese and prepare for our great cheese-mergence. You have done well. Now, come with us.”

Chester’s fan base sprang into action. “You can’t take Chester!” they shouted, forming a human chain around him. Even some of the vegetables joined in, feeling a strange kinship with their rival against the alien invaders.

Mayor Broadbean, sensing an opportunity to bolster her own fame, shouted into a megaphone, “We’ll never surrender Chester to alien forces!”

The aliens looked baffled, then pressed a button on their ship. Instantly, a beam transported every piece of cheese in the town (including Chester) aboard their craft. In a flash, they were gone.

Chapter 6: The Town Rallies

With Chester gone, the town was left in disarray. The pro-Cheeto camp was devastated. The anti-Cheeto camp, now surprisingly bereft, realized life without Chester wasn’t as sweet… or as cheesy.

Determined to bring Chester back, they rallied together. Mayor Broadbean, in a surprising turn, declared a town-wide initiative: “Operation Cheddar Rescue.”

People of all ages came together, creating signs reading, “Bring Back Chester!” The vegetable faction joined forces with the Cheeto-lovers, developing energy bars and vitamin-packed snacks to keep everyone energized for the long battle ahead. They crafted a homemade spaceship (primarily using kitchen supplies and an old minivan) and set off for the stars.

Chapter 7: The Cheese Showdown

The town’s makeshift spaceship arrived at Planet Cheddartron, a bizarre landscape made entirely of different cheeses. Rivers of nacho cheese flowed through valleys of Swiss, and mountains of Gouda loomed in the background.

They found Chester in the heart of the Cheddar Palace, surrounded by alien cheese warriors. Chester looked both relieved and deeply confused by the arrival of his human (and vegetable) friends. “You guys came for me?” he asked, touched.

Mayor Broadbean, brandishing a celery stick like a sword, stepped forward. “We may have our differences, Chester,” she said, “but you’re one of us. And we don’t abandon our snacks.”

The Zorbiots demanded they surrender or face “The Cheese Melt of Doom.” But just as they prepared to fight, Chester had an idea. He turned to his captors and said, “You sent me here to spread the love of cheese, and I did that. But I also learned something: the best snacks aren’t just one thing—they come in all forms. Cheese or vegetable, crunchy or soft, we all belong together.”

Moved by his speech, the Zorbiot leader (a sharp wedge of aged cheddar) saw reason. “Perhaps we can learn from your Earth ways, Chester-7,” he said with a solemn nod.

Chapter 8: The Return

With the Zorbiots’ blessing, Chester and the town’s space explorers returned home in triumph. They were greeted with cheers and celebrations, and a statue of Chester was erected in the town square to commemorate his journey.

The election was canceled, the anti-Cheeto faction dissolved, and Mayor Broadbean even declared an annual “Chester Day” where people celebrated by eating both Cheetos and veggies, in honor of unity and cheesy diplomacy!

paqman

Title: The Legend of Victor, the Giant Salt and Vinegar Chip

Chapter 1: The Arrival

It began as a typical Tuesday in Shady Acres, a quiet town where nothing unusual ever happened. That was, of course, until the sky cracked open with a thunderous BOOM, and out of a tangy blue streak came a gigantic, salt-and-vinegar-coated entity that would change the world forever.

People gathered at the site of the landing, staring in shock. There, towering over the crowd, stood a fifteen-foot-tall potato chip. It was slightly crinkled, with the perfect coating of salt and vinegar, and it exuded a strange, comforting scent of tangy goodness. Kids gasped, parents whispered, and local news reporters scrambled to broadcast the miracle.

The giant chip looked around, then opened its “mouth” (a small indent on its lumpy surface) and said in a surprisingly deep voice, “Hi, everyone. I’m Victor. I come in peace… and with a zesty twist.”

And just like that, the legend of Victor, the Giant Salt and Vinegar Chip, was born.

Chapter 2: Fame and Controversy

The town quickly divided into two camps: those who adored Victor and those who… well, who thought he was a menace.

Sixty percent of the townsfolk were thrilled. Victor was a kind and polite chip. He visited schools, telling tangy jokes (“What’s a chip’s favorite dance? The Vine-gar-swing!”). Kids loved him. Adults found him oddly inspiring, and some local businesses even began featuring Victor on their promotional material.

The other forty percent, however, were unconvinced. They found his tanginess overwhelming, both literally and figuratively. The anti-Victor crowd claimed his salt left residue everywhere, turning the sidewalks into a slip hazard. Worse, they were convinced that he was some sort of alien sent to “vinegarize” humanity.

Victor, for his part, took the criticism in stride. “I know I’m an acquired taste,” he said diplomatically, “but I’m here to make the world a little tangier. Isn’t that worth a bit of mess?”

But that didn’t appease his critics. Soon, “Down with Victor!” posters began popping up around town. The anti-chip movement grew louder, and tensions simmered.

Chapter 3: The Election

Things took a turn when Mayor Betty Broadbean, a no-nonsense woman with a deep hatred for snack foods, announced that she would be holding a town-wide vote. The question: Should Victor, the Giant Salt and Vinegar Chip, be banished from Shady Acres?

The pro-Victor camp was horrified. Victor had done nothing wrong! He spread joy, told jokes, and occasionally offered free salt and vinegar facials, which the spa industry was considering franchising. But Betty was determined.

As election day drew near, both sides launched their campaigns. Pro-Victor rallies filled with chants of “Say Yes to Victor!” popped up around town. People wore blue hats, T-shirts, and even painted their faces in support of their favorite snack-turned-citizen.

Meanwhile, the anti-Victor side wasn’t quiet either. They printed pamphlets warning of “Vinegar Lung” from inhaling Victor’s tangy aroma and claiming his presence was ruining their health. They even aired commercials showing Victor “accidentally” crushing a mailbox, with ominous music playing in the background.

Chapter 4: Attack of the Vegetables

Just as election day approached, things took a surprising twist. The anti-Victor faction received support from an unexpected group: vegetables. That’s right—animated vegetables. Carrots, broccoli, kale, and even a gang of intimidating Brussels sprouts appeared out of nowhere, protesting Victor’s influence.

“Down with processed snacks!” shouted Bertie the Broccoli, a stern figure with thick, leafy eyebrows. “We are nature’s snacks, and we don’t need some fried impostor stealing our spotlight.”

The vegetables organized marches, handing out pamphlets with slogans like “Go Green, Not Tangy!” and “Choose Vitamins Over Vices!” Soon, Victor’s popularity faced a serious dip. People began to question their loyalty to Victor, wondering if perhaps they had been blind to the virtues of fiber-rich, low-calorie snacks.

But Victor, ever the diplomat, decided to address the town square. “I may not be rich in vitamins,” he said, looking solemnly over the crowd, “but I’m rich in flavor. I didn’t come here to divide—I came here to share the simple joy of a snack. Isn’t there room for both veggies and tangy goodness in this world?”

The crowd was moved, and even a few carrots seemed to look away, embarrassed. But just as it seemed peace was within reach, a crackle rang through the air, and Victor was engulfed in a beam of bright light.

Chapter 5: The Alien Invasion

An enormous spacecraft hovered above, casting a shadow over the town. Then, a robotic voice echoed, “We are the Zorbiots, rulers of Planet Vinegatrix! We have come to reclaim our lost comrade, Victor, who belongs to us.”

Gasps filled the crowd. Victor looked equally surprised. “Uh… sorry, I think you’ve got the wrong snack,” he said nervously. “I’m just a simple chip.”

The aliens, who bore a strange resemblance to sentient bottles of vinegar, were unconvinced. “You are Victor-7, our prized emissary of tanginess! You were sent to Earth to spread the love of vinegar and prepare for our great vinegarnation. You have done well. Now, come with us.”

Victor’s fan base sprang into action. “You can’t take Victor!” they shouted, forming a human chain around him. Even some of the vegetables joined in, feeling a strange kinship with their rival against the alien invaders.

Mayor Broadbean, sensing an opportunity to bolster her own fame, shouted into a megaphone, “We’ll never surrender Victor to alien forces!”

The aliens looked baffled, then pressed a button on their ship. Instantly, a beam transported every chip in the town (including Victor) aboard their craft. In a flash, they were gone.

Chapter 6: The Town Rallies

With Victor gone, the town was left in disarray. The pro-chip camp was devastated. The anti-chip camp, now surprisingly bereft, realized life without Victor wasn’t as zesty… or as tangy.

Determined to bring Victor back, they rallied together. Mayor Broadbean, in a surprising turn, declared a town-wide initiative: “Operation Vinegar Rescue.”

People of all ages came together, creating signs reading, “Bring Back Victor!” The vegetable faction joined forces with the chip-lovers, developing energy bars and vitamin-packed snacks to keep everyone energized for the long battle ahead. They crafted a homemade spaceship (primarily using kitchen supplies and an old minivan) and set off for the stars.

Chapter 7: The Vinegar Showdown

The town’s makeshift spaceship arrived at Planet Vinegatrix, a bizarre landscape made entirely of different vinegars. Rivers of balsamic flowed through valleys of apple cider, and mountains of malt loomed in the background.

They found Victor in the heart of the Vinegar Palace, surrounded by alien vinegar warriors. Victor looked both relieved and deeply confused by the arrival of his human (and vegetable) friends. “You guys came for me?” he asked, touched.

Mayor Broadbean, brandishing a celery stick like a sword, stepped forward. “We may have our differences, Victor,” she said, “but you’re one of us. And we don’t abandon our snacks.”

The Zorbiots demanded they surrender or face “The Vinegar Drench of Doom.” But just as they prepared to fight, Victor had an idea. He turned to his captors and said, “You sent me here to spread the love of vinegar, and I did that. But I also learned something: the best snacks aren’t just one thing—they come in all forms. Vinegar or vegetable, crunchy or soft, we all belong together.”

Moved by his speech, the Zorbiot leader (a sharp bottle of aged balsamic) saw reason. “Perhaps we can learn from your Earth ways, Victor-7,” he said with a solemn nod.

Chapter 8: The Return

With the Zorbiots’ blessing, Victor and the town’s space explorers returned home in triumph. They were greeted with cheers and celebrations, and a statue of Victor was erected in the town square to commemorate his journey.

The election was canceled, the anti-chip faction dissolved, and Mayor Broadbean even declared an annual “Victor Day” where people celebrated by eating both salt and vinegar chips and veggies, in honor of unity and tangy diplomacy!

Legume

Seems derivative.

SGH

Have y’all heard the story of The Legend of Andy the Anus? It is a great story but surprisingly has a very crappy ending. I will gladly tell it if y’all haven’t heard it before. 

Ozzie_Isaac

In a quiet, rustic village, Marcus stood by his modest grill, the warm glow of flames casting shadows across his focused face. His hands worked deftly, flipping cuts of meat, the air fragrant with spices he’d mixed himself. Each bite he served brought joy to the villagers, who dubbed him “rex coquorum,” the king of cooks. Yet, despite their praise, Marcus remained humble, dreaming of something more—an inspiración, a desire to share this joy beyond the borders of his little home.

One evening, as the embers glowed and the village quieted, an old man approached, tasting Marcus’s BBQ with a thoughtful nod. “Esto es un sabor divino,” he murmured. The words stuck with Marcus, stirring in him a longing to see if others, far and wide, would agree. With this spark, he began his journey, traveling to nearby cities and entering cooking contests, gathering spices and techniques as he went. Before long, word spread of Marcus, the man whose BBQ tasted like “home” no matter where you were from.

His fame drew him into larger competitions, pitting him against the best chefs from distant lands. At each event, he mingled languages like ingredients: a pinch of Brazilian heat here, a touch of French elegance there. Judges were left speechless. “Incroyable,” gasped one French chef. “Ihr Geschmack ist unglaublich,” murmured a German competitor, barely concealing his awe. As Marcus’s skill continued to grow, he became a household name, his recipes like whispers of magic from kitchen to kitchen, across oceans and borders.

But Marcus’s journey was about to take an even stranger turn. After winning a world BBQ championship, he was invited to a gathering of leaders from every corner of the earth. They tasted his BBQ, looked at each other, and something unexpected began to happen. 누군가 murmured that Marcus’s BBQ might just be the answer to their problems. “In unity,” they reasoned, “we find peace.” They asked him, a mere cook, to be their leader, believing he could unite the world as he united flavors.

Marcus was hesitant at first. He was just a cook, he told them. Yet, he could see how deeply they believed in the power of his food to bring peace. And so, after much thought, he accepted. One by one, world leaders handed over their sashes and badges, trusting Marcus to lead with the same gentle patience that had made his BBQ so unforgettable.

As he ascended to power, Marcus organized the world’s first “Peace BBQ,” inviting everyone to share food, music, and stories. People of all languages arrived, each bringing spices and ingredients from their homeland. At the festival, barriers melted. A man from Istanbul added Turkish peppers to a dish, while a Finnish elder added wild herbs from her homeland. “Bunu dünyanın her yerinden insanlar için hazırladım,” Marcus announced as he cooked, each piece of meat sizzling and perfect.

The BBQ became an annual tradition, a day when all nations came together, each person welcome and free to share in the feast. Over time, Marcus’s BBQ skills became a symbol of peace, inspiring people to see the beauty in their differences. To Marcus, it was a gift to see the world united not by treaties but by the simple act of sharing a meal.

Years passed, and Marcus grew old, his hands still steady over the grill but his heart now set on passing down his secrets. He gathered a group of young chefs, teaching them not only the recipes but the true purpose behind them: unity, harmony, and peace. From then on, each new generation of chefs was entrusted with his legacy, keeping his recipes alive, adding their own twists, but always remembering the purpose behind the flavors.

On his last day in the world, Marcus, surrounded by his apprentices, watched them cook. He smiled as he tasted the food, closing his eyes, letting the familiar flavors settle like an old memory. Sa fie bine pentru totdeauna, he whispered, wishing peace for all time.

And so, Marcus, the BBQ King, left behind a world changed by his art, a world where people remembered that sometimes, the simplest things—a good meal, shared laughter, and an open heart—were all anyone ever needed to feel at home.

Legume

We've had spam, now we seem to be getting spaim.

JohnInCarolina

Don’t take this the wrong way, but some of you clearly have too much free time on your hands.  You need a hobby, like smoking meat.

BUFFALOMOOSE

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

Legume

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

JonWesson

louie dejoy know wheres 14 millions is

JohnInCarolina

Legume said:

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

What exactly is the theory of the case here - that Biden/Democrats somehow rigged the 2020 election, but couldn’t figure out how to do it again in 2024?

billt01

JohnInCarolina said:

Legume said:

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

What exactly is the theory of the case here - that Biden/Democrats somehow rigged the 2020 election, but couldn’t figure out how to do it again in 2024?

maybe they put the cart before the horse and let Puerto Rico vote..

The delta between the two elections is just shy of 13 million votes; or simple,r another state or two worth of votes....

I mean, shouldn't everyone want to know where 13 million voters went?

Legume

I think it's important to look at voter turnout as the normal election post-mortems that everyone seems to do. How many available voters were there, how many voted and where, how does that match with population changes and geographic shifts in populations, demographics, etc. It's all being done now by every news organization, political organization, etc., as it always is, to understand how this election played out.  I would want to know how many people voted, but did not tick a box for the presidential election.

That's all normal post election process and it's done to death. I just don't understand how anyone can come to a conclusion that the numbers in 2020 were suspiciously higher, if that's what he was suggesting.

JohnInCarolina

billt01 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Legume said:

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

What exactly is the theory of the case here - that Biden/Democrats somehow rigged the 2020 election, but couldn’t figure out how to do it again in 2024?

maybe they put the cart before the horse and let Puerto Rico vote..

The delta between the two elections is just shy of 13 million votes; or simple,r another state or two worth of votes....

I mean, shouldn't everyone want to know where 13 million voters went?

The fact that 100% of the vote hasn't been reported yet and a lower turnout is a far simpler explanation than some massive conspiracy.

Good Lord.  Some of you shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools.  

billt01

Legume said:

I think it's important to look at voter turnout as the normal election post-mortems that everyone seems to do. How many available voters were there, how many voted and where, how does that match with population changes and geographic shifts in populations, demographics, etc. It's all being done now by every news organization, political organization, etc., as it always is, to understand how this election played out.  I would want to know how many people voted, but did not tick a box for the presidential election.

That's all normal post election process and it's done to death. I just don't understand how anyone can come to a conclusion that the numbers in 2020 were suspiciously higher, if that's what he was suggesting.

13 million lost voters isn't suspicious? that's like 8.5% and when you look at 2012,2016,2020, then 2024...2020 looks very very strange...if 2028 trends to the 2012,2016,and 2024 line...2020 would absolutely without doubt be an anomaly..

Legume

I've read reports suggesting Chinese and Russians hacked voting machines this year to help Trump. We should look into that. Maybe that's where the 13MM votes went  (nod)

billt01

JohnInCarolina said:

billt01 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Legume said:

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

What exactly is the theory of the case here - that Biden/Democrats somehow rigged the 2020 election, but couldn’t figure out how to do it again in 2024?

maybe they put the cart before the horse and let Puerto Rico vote..

The delta between the two elections is just shy of 13 million votes; or simple,r another state or two worth of votes....

I mean, shouldn't everyone want to know where 13 million voters went?

The fact that 100% of the vote hasn't been reported yet and a lower turnout is a far simpler explanation than some massive conspiracy.

Good Lord.  Some of you shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools.  

4% in Nevada and 23% in Arizona doesn't justify the 13 million number.

JohnInCarolina

Some folks are simply far more susceptible to misinformation, and they tend to vote in one direction.  I wonder why that is?

billt01

JohnInCarolina said:

Some folks are simply far more susceptible to misinformation, and they tend to vote in one direction.  I wonder why that is?

is that polling data?

Really?

HA!!

that made me literally laugh out loud...

Ozzie_Isaac

billt01

Legume said:

I've read reports suggesting Chinese and Russians hacked voting machines this year to help Trump. We should look into that. Maybe that's where the 13MM votes went  (nod)

one would think they would be more secure.

Ozzie_Isaac

I suspect Joe’s crew didn’t want to support Kamala so they kept the 13million votes off the books. 

Also, if 13 million democrats wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris, then who are the real racist and sexist voters?  They would vote for an old white guy (Joe Biden) but not a middle aged black women?  Trump voters wouldn’t vote for either because they don’t like their policies, their ethnicity or gender didn’t come into the equation for Republicans.

JohnInCarolina

billt01 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

billt01 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Legume said:

BUFFALOMOOSE said:

BUFFALOMOOSE Posts: 377

November 6

Query me this:

In 2020 Trump received 74.2 million votes, Biden allegedly received 81.3 million.

In 2024 Trump currently has 72.1 million and Harris currently has 67.3 million.

What happened to those 14 million "voters" for the Democrats?  And better yet, where are the shortfalls?  Swing states perhaps?

Would LOVE to know the answers

South Buffalo, New York

***UPDATE***

2024:  Trump 74.3 million-Exceeds 2016 and 2020 total
            
           Harris 69.8 million-Still looking for 11.5 million "voters" for the Democrats

You're silly if you're raising the spectre of fraud in 2020 at this point.  Maybe it was just a mistype on your part.

What exactly is the theory of the case here - that Biden/Democrats somehow rigged the 2020 election, but couldn’t figure out how to do it again in 2024?

maybe they put the cart before the horse and let Puerto Rico vote..

The delta between the two elections is just shy of 13 million votes; or simple,r another state or two worth of votes....

I mean, shouldn't everyone want to know where 13 million voters went?

The fact that 100% of the vote hasn't been reported yet and a lower turnout is a far simpler explanation than some massive conspiracy.

Good Lord.  Some of you shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools.  

4% in Nevada and 23% in Arizona doesn't justify the 13 million number.

I hate that I have to waste energy doing math for you, but here we are.

The current total is 142.5 million.  This is with 94% reporting.  So at 100% reporting, we should expect a total number of votes of close to 151.6 Million.

The total in 2024 was close to 155.5 Million.  So basically a 2.5% lower turnout explains the difference.

Where did that 2.5% come from, you're surely scratching your head over right now?  Gee, I don't know - a lack of enthusiasm perhaps?  Or maybe we lost a lot of voting age citizens to something like a global pandemic over the past four years.  Or some combination of the two, plus lots of other things like shifting voting demographics.  Any number of things are vastly simpler than some kind of massive voting conspiracy.  

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I suspect Joe’s crew didn’t want to support Kamala so they kept the 13million votes off the books. 

Also, if 13 million democrats wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris, then who are the real racist and sexist voters?  They would vote for an old white guy (Joe Biden) but not a middle aged black women?  Trump voters wouldn’t vote for either because they don’t like their policies, their ethnicity or gender didn’t come into the equation for Republicans.

The argument that the racist votes went to Trump instead of Harris is... an interesting one.