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File this one under “galactically stupid”
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
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@Gulfcoastguy - Informative video, thanks for sharing.Seems to me rail transportation could be advantageously suited for battery power. My thinking is with a train, the destination and route are always known upfront. That should allow for using battery swap stations. As opposed to non-starter recharging stations.Some want battery power to predominate long-haul trucking (CA in particular). Like trains, they would also require battery swap, not recharge, infrastructure to prevent efficiency losses. To me that is a much bigger challenge than rail. Interesting times we're in.LBGE, LBGE-PTR, 22" Weber, Coleman 413GGreat Plains, USA
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dbCooper said:@Gulfcoastguy - Informative video, thanks for sharing.Seems to me rail transportation could be advantageously suited for battery power. My thinking is with a train, the destination and route are always known upfront. That should allow for using battery swap stations. As opposed to non-starter recharging stations.Some want battery power to predominate long-haul trucking (CA in particular). Like trains, they would also require battery swap, not recharge, infrastructure to prevent efficiency losses. To me that is a much bigger challenge than rail. Interesting times we're in.
plus no need for engines, each car could have a motor and batter pack.Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL
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Ozzie_Isaac said:dbCooper said:@Gulfcoastguy - Informative video, thanks for sharing.Seems to me rail transportation could be advantageously suited for battery power. My thinking is with a train, the destination and route are always known upfront. That should allow for using battery swap stations. As opposed to non-starter recharging stations.Some want battery power to predominate long-haul trucking (CA in particular). Like trains, they would also require battery swap, not recharge, infrastructure to prevent efficiency losses. To me that is a much bigger challenge than rail. Interesting times we're in.
plus no need for engines, each car could have a motor and batter pack.My thinking was in terms of locomotives staffed by engineers/conductors. They have some defined milage and/or time limits for shift length. Crew change could be the time batteries get swapped out was where I was going.Your thoughts seem more expensive and complicated (autonomous and individually powered cars?). Hard to shake the engineering mentality? 😁
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These are intended for short range commuter trains. In fact the first versions were surplus subway trains from the London tube system. That version could travel up to 186 miles on a single charge. At the stop to deliver passengers, or at 150 mile intervals or so or stations , two shoes would drop and contact a third rail. Then, and only then, the third rail would energize and recharge the battery in 3.5 minutes. Probably about the same time it takes to swap passengers. Battery swap would be unnecessary and more expensive.
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Gulfcoastguy said:These are intended for short range commuter trains. In fact the first versions were surplus subway trains from the London tube system. That version could travel up to 186 miles on a single charge. At the stop to deliver passengers, or at 150 mile intervals or so or stations , two shoes would drop and contact a third rail. Then, and only then, the third rail would energize and recharge the battery in 3.5 minutes. Probably about the same time it takes to swap passengers. Battery swap would be unnecessary and more expensive.
And with raised, high-speed trains like they have in Japan and elsewhere, maybe continually-charged track, the full length (eliminating accelerating/braking the mass of heavy batteries altogether), can work...?
EDIT: Oh, and I'm not understanding "subway trains from the London tube system"; there are no 150-mile runs there. We always took a surface train from London suburbs, then in city center transferred from those trains to the tubes via foot. But that was 40 years ago now for me, have things changed?
___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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Bumper cars are a proven tech.....a highway full of bumper carsfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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Botch said:Gulfcoastguy said:These are intended for short range commuter trains. In fact the first versions were surplus subway trains from the London tube system. That version could travel up to 186 miles on a single charge. At the stop to deliver passengers, or at 150 mile intervals or so or stations , two shoes would drop and contact a third rail. Then, and only then, the third rail would energize and recharge the battery in 3.5 minutes. Probably about the same time it takes to swap passengers. Battery swap would be unnecessary and more expensive.
And with raised, high-speed trains like they have in Japan and elsewhere, maybe continually-charged track, the full length (eliminating accelerating/braking the mass of heavy batteries altogether), can work...?
EDIT: Oh, and I'm not understanding "subway trains from the London tube system"; there are no 150-mile runs there. We always took a surface train from London suburbs, then in city center transferred from those trains to the tubes via foot. But that was 40 years ago now for me, have things changed? -
From today's Washington Post- (a teaser copied here as it is behind a paywall).
By Brady Dennis,Kevin Crowe andPhotos and videos by Jahi ChikwendiuMay 22, 2024 at 5:00 a.m.MIAMI
On the worst days, when the backyard would flood and the toilet would gurgle and the smell of sewage hung thick in the air, Monica Arenas would flee to her mother-in-law’s home to use the bathroom or wash laundry.
“It was a nightmare,” Arenas, 41, recalled one evening in the modest house she shares with her husband and teenage daughter several miles north of downtown Miami.
She worried about what pathogens might lurk in the tainted waters, what it might cost to fix the persistent problems and whether the ever-present anxiety would ever subside.
Residents in neighborhoods around Arenas’s have similar tales to share — of out-of-commission toilets, of groundwater rising through cracks in their garage floors, of worries about their own waste running through the streets and ultimately polluting nearby Biscayne Bay.
As sea levels rise, so do concerns about waste from septic tanks running into the Little River and other waterways and polluting Biscayne Bay. (The Washington Post)For all the obvious challenges facing South Florida as sea levels surge, one serious threat to public health and the environment remains largely out of sight, but everywhere:
Septic tanks.
Millions of them dot the American South, a region grappling with some of the planet’s fastest-rising seas, according to a Washington Post analysis. At more than a dozen tide gauges from Texas to North Carolina, sea levels have risen at least 6 inches since 2010 — a change similar to what occurred over the previous five decades."
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
Good thing their Gov desantis signed a bill removing all references of "climate change" from the schools; that'll fix 'em right up.___________
"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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Gift link for the article @lousubcap mentions:
https://wapo.st/44Wv0XJ
It is a good read about an issue that will likely end up costing federal taxpayers billions of dollars to address purely local problems.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
HeavyG said:
It is a good read about an issue that will likely end up costing federal taxpayers billions of dollars to address purely local problems.
A couple months ago I read an article about how car insurance is getting hit too; I thought that was a separate money stream from property insurance, but it's not (wish I'd saved that link). Is there anyone here on this forum whose car insurance did NOT at least double in the past 2 years? (I don't want to know dollar amounts, just doubling: yes/no).
I got my MS in IE, '93-'94. One of the real interesting classes for me was "Current Topics in Industrial Engineering", it covered patent laws, liability, environmental impacts, worker engagement, supply chain/geopolitical factors, and insurance trends. One thing I found really surprising that, for whatever reason, flood insurance was subsidized by the Feds, no other insurance (besides FDIC-type stuff) was. One case study was a woman who built an expensive home on stilts somewhere on the Missouri (Mississippi?) river, and a flood washed her home/belongings away, and flood insurance replaced everything.
FIVE times!
Close to that time, the laws had been changed, and federal subsidizing of flood insurance was ended. BUT, since then, it was reinstated (Who owns homes/property on banks of rivers/lakes/oceanside? The wealthy. Who does one half of our federal government work for? The wealthy). Once again, federal funding for a "local" problem.___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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My parents live 85 miles inland. None of the insurance will insure your new house if the roof is 10 years and one day old.I only live a few miles from the Gulf but my elevation is 28 feet. I am dropping my federal flood insurance this year. The price is bumping on a thousand dollars and only a few years ago was about 300. My Allstate agent said that the federal insurance only covers rising water. My regular insurance (nearly 3K) covers everything else. No claims in 22 years.I have taken most reasonable steps to reduce my carbon footprint: bought a relatively small used house, added insulation, changed lights, added a high efficiency heat pump, added a white metal roof, electric car, electric lawnmower, electric weed eater. I would probably move if funds were unlimited. Sort of interested in Eastern Kentucky but I doubt that it will ever happen.
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I bailed from the fema flood ins a few years ago when it hit 9k. Went with Lloyd's of London for about 1k for floodsfukahwee maineyou can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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@Botch - I don't know if you listen to podcasts or not, but The Daily (from the New York Times) had an episode recently on the possible collapse of the US home insurance market:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/podcasts/the-daily/climate-insurance.html
Worth checking out if you have a spare 30 minutes. The podcast is free, you don't need a subscription to the NYT to listen to it."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
JohnInCarolina said:https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/podcasts/the-daily/climate-insurance.html
Worth checking out if you have a spare 30 minutes. The podcast is free, you don't need a subscription to the NYT to listen to it.
A side effect here in the West may be downsizing actual homes, and get out of this cookie-cutter McMansion mentality.___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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Botch said:HeavyG said:
It is a good read about an issue that will likely end up costing federal taxpayers billions of dollars to address purely local problems.
A couple months ago I read an article about how car insurance is getting hit too; I thought that was a separate money stream from property insurance, but it's not (wish I'd saved that link). Is there anyone here on this forum whose car insurance did NOT at least double in the past 2 years? (I don't want to know dollar amounts, just doubling: yes/no).
I got my MS in IE, '93-'94. One of the real interesting classes for me was "Current Topics in Industrial Engineering", it covered patent laws, liability, environmental impacts, worker engagement, supply chain/geopolitical factors, and insurance trends. One thing I found really surprising that, for whatever reason, flood insurance was subsidized by the Feds, no other insurance (besides FDIC-type stuff) was. One case study was a woman who built an expensive home on stilts somewhere on the Missouri (Mississippi?) river, and a flood washed her home/belongings away, and flood insurance replaced everything.
FIVE times!
Close to that time, the laws had been changed, and federal subsidizing of flood insurance was ended. BUT, since then, it was reinstated (Who owns homes/property on banks of rivers/lakes/oceanside? The wealthy. Who does one half of our federal government work for? The wealthy). Once again, federal funding for a "local" problem.
It's all too easy, yet typical, that even those folks who think the ever increasing federal debt is a real problem will still be expecting Uncle Sam's credit card to provide everyone the hundreds of billions of dollars to fix their old problems. And in typical fashion wingnut pols will vote against such a spending bill but be right there in their home district boasting about how they "brought home the bacon".“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Well today they issued the worst hurricane prediction on record.
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Gulfcoastguy said:Well today they issued the worst hurricane prediction on record.___________
"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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The latest regarding EV's:
For electric vehicle makers in particular, and humans hoping to escape the worst of global warming in general, there may not actually be a reason to panic about EV sales just yet. Sure, sales were flat in the first quarter, Ford dramatically scaled back expansion plans and Elon Musk fired 10% of Tesla’s employees. But for every sign of a slowdown, another suggests an adolescent industry on the verge of its next growth spurt. In fact, for most automakers, even the first quarter was a blockbuster. Six of the 10 biggest EV makers in the US saw sales grow at a scorching pace compared to a year ago—up anywhere from 56% at Hyundai-Kia to 86% at Ford. And a sampling of April sales came in hot, too.
One of the biggest worries would-be EV owners have is something called range anxiety—finding a charging station before your battery runs out on a long drive. Well, China EV giant BYD seems to have made some progress on this front, at least for hybrids. It unveiled a new hybrid powertrain that’s capable of allowing a car to travel more than 1,250 miles without recharging or refueling. The upgrade means some of BYD’s dual-mode plug-in electric hybrid cars can manage the equivalent of New York to Miami, or Munich to Madrid, on a single-charge and full tank. The milestone marks BYD’s latest achievement in slashing fuel consumption over five generations of hybrids since their first debut in 2008."
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
@lousubcap - while the US market is obviously important, to me the key thing with EVs is to look at global sales. There, the picture continues to be quite good. I remain of the view that the EV wave is coming, and the only question is which side of it you're on."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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And this latest on the vegan leather company-
"Volkswagen to the rescue. The German automaker will invest $5 billion to form a joint venture with struggling electric vehicle maker Rivian Automotive, throwing a lifeline to the startup and giving VW access to the American EV company’s technology. VW said it will invest $1 billion immediately in Rivian and an additional $4 billion over time. The companies said the new venture will be “equally controlled and owned,” and plan to develop “next generation” battery-powered vehicles with leading-edge software. Rivian’s shares jumped in aftermarket trading, gaining as much as 37%. Through Tuesday’s close, Rivian’s stock had fallen 49% on the year. "
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
@lousubcap - they’re a good company making quality vehicles - glad to see that."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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US Offshore Wind Farm Shut Down After Turbine Debris Fouls Beaches
Linked here:
https://gcaptain.com/us-offshore-wind-farm-shut-down-after-turbine-debris-fouls-beaches/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-aff2323a46-170052525&mc_cid=aff2323a46
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
lousubcap said:
US Offshore Wind Farm Shut Down After Turbine Debris Fouls Beaches
Linked here:
https://gcaptain.com/us-offshore-wind-farm-shut-down-after-turbine-debris-fouls-beaches/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-aff2323a46-170052525&mc_cid=aff2323a46"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
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