Jan 6 Hearings

nolaegghead

JohnInCarolina said:

I really don’t know how anyone can pay one iota of attention to these hearings and walk away thinking it’s not a big deal or there’s nothing to see here.  It’s astonishing.

SamIAm2

JohnInCarolina said:

I really don’t know how anyone can pay one iota of attention to these hearings and walk away thinking it’s not a big deal or there’s nothing to see here.  It’s astonishing.

@JohnInCarolina - Unfortunately as has been stated the people who need to see these hearings will not tune in. Have a good neighbor who will not watch and a conversation about what was presented will not happen. I do notice that previously his television was always tuned to Fox network but is no longer. I suppose he doesn't even want his beliefs shaken, even by that particular networks filter.

lousubcap

^^^ that is definitely the truth right there.  Sobering is not strong enough.  The precipice this country was facing was thwarted by those who honored their oath to  support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC (emphasis added).  Thank each and everyone one of those on the screen and behind the scenes that upheld the rule of law over the clown show.  The pressure had to be extremely strong.  
To those who still have any loyalty to Cheeto-read the oath he took and then read the US Constitution.  Where do you stand???
You can't make this crap up although I'm sure networks will.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1540033037676732417?s=20&t=4_Wgx4-aPWnPDXS6F6crXg

Botch

The Cult don't need no Facts!  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ
 
I can't help but think a simple Intelligence test should be required to vote (and to buy guns) as is required to practice medicine, drive a car, work in a beauty salon, fish, apply pesticides, practice law, etc.  

Ozzie_Isaac

SamIAm2 said:

@lousubcap - That last paragraph is disturbing in so many ways. I suddenly have Dominic Frontiere's main title theme running thru my brain from old Clint Eastwood movie "Hang 'em High"

WTF is wrong with everyone.  Do Trump supporters really hate democracy that much?  We had a great economy, low taxes, and everyone was doing well.  That does not negate the fact he was basically Caligula. Rome was going to burn.  He has been shown to bend Lady Liberty over and try and rape her.  His "patriots" don't care.

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

SamIAm2 said:

@lousubcap - That last paragraph is disturbing in so many ways. I suddenly have Dominic Frontiere's main title theme running thru my brain from old Clint Eastwood movie "Hang 'em High"

WTF is wrong with everyone.  Do Trump supporters really hate democracy that much?  We had a great economy, low taxes, and everyone was doing well.  That does not negate the fact he was basically Caligula. Rome was going to burn.  He has been shown to bend Lady Liberty over and try and rape her.  His "patriots" don't care.

For many die-hard Trump supporters, his primary appeal is that he pisses off liberals.  Turns out, among lots of other things, liberals get pissed off when the President craps all over the constitution.  So it’s still a win for them, you see?  

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1540085390392033286?s=20&t=4_Wgx4-aPWnPDXS6F6crXg

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

SamIAm2 said:

@lousubcap - That last paragraph is disturbing in so many ways. I suddenly have Dominic Frontiere's main title theme running thru my brain from old Clint Eastwood movie "Hang 'em High"

WTF is wrong with everyone.  Do Trump supporters really hate democracy that much?  We had a great economy, low taxes, and everyone was doing well.  That does not negate the fact he was basically Caligula. Rome was going to burn.  He has been shown to bend Lady Liberty over and try and rape her.  His "patriots" don't care.

For many die-hard Trump supporters, his primary appeal is that he pisses off liberals.  Turns out, among lots of other things, liberals get pissed off when the President craps all over the constitution.  So it’s still a win for them, you see?  

**** is a parody of himself.  Just like the tweet above.  Stupidity.  You have to be fuckin bonkers stupid to think you just send fake elecrors to congress.  Seriously!?  No, I mean, seriously!?  That is like of a 2nd grader planned a coup.  And his supporters are like, "yeah, that's right, you guys lose, we win, suckers!".  Do they really think that is how the world works? Giant game of duck duck goose?

As an aside, do not look up the lyrics for duck duck goose by Cupcakke.  Seriously, don't.  You will be scared for life.

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

SamIAm2 said:

@lousubcap - That last paragraph is disturbing in so many ways. I suddenly have Dominic Frontiere's main title theme running thru my brain from old Clint Eastwood movie "Hang 'em High"

WTF is wrong with everyone.  Do Trump supporters really hate democracy that much?  We had a great economy, low taxes, and everyone was doing well.  That does not negate the fact he was basically Caligula. Rome was going to burn.  He has been shown to bend Lady Liberty over and try and rape her.  His "patriots" don't care.

For many die-hard Trump supporters, his primary appeal is that he pisses off liberals.  Turns out, among lots of other things, liberals get pissed off when the President craps all over the constitution.  So it’s still a win for them, you see?  

**** is a parody of himself.  Just like the tweet above.  Stupidity.  You have to be fuckin bonkers stupid to think you just send fake elecrors to congress.  Seriously!?  No, I mean, seriously!?  That is like of a 2nd grader planned a coup.  And his supporters are like, "yeah, that's right, you guys lose, we win, suckers!".  Do they really think that is how the world works? Giant game of duck duck goose?

It is ridiculous.  But it’s not just his supporters.  It should tell you all you need to know about the current GOP that the pariahs of the party are Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, and not the many members carrying water for all of this Trumpian BS.

lousubcap

"The Jan. 6 committee presented new evidence yesterday of Republican members of Congress seeking pre-emptive pardons from former-President Trump. Witness testimony from former White House aides portrayed members of Congress as concerned about potential exposure to prosecution in the wake of their support for Trump’s attempts to stay in power. Trump “had hinted at a blanket pardon for the Jan. 6 thing for anybody,” Trump’s former head of presidential personnel, Johnny McEntee, testified. Those who sought pardon included Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL), Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), and Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ). Maggie Haberman, Michael S. Schmidt and Alan Feuer report for the New York Times. 

2020 ELECTION PROBES

Federal investigators carried out a search on Wednesday at the home of Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official, in connection with the department’s criminal inquiry into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. It remained unclear exactly what the investigators may have been looking for. However, Clark was central to former- President Trump’s unsuccessful effort in late 2020 to cajole the nation’s top prosecutors into supporting his claims of election fraud, and the search suggests that the criminal investigation could be moving closer to Trump. Alan Feuer, Adam Goldman and Maggie Haberman report for the New York Times. "

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Legume said:yes, but less

“Chat room Rambo”

Is that anything like eye patch McCain?

Yes but way more douchey 

The Cen-Tex Smoker

SamIAm2 said:

JohnInCarolina said:

I really don’t know how anyone can pay one iota of attention to these hearings and walk away thinking it’s not a big deal or there’s nothing to see here.  It’s astonishing.

@JohnInCarolina - Unfortunately as has been stated the people who need to see these hearings will not tune in. Have a good neighbor who will not watch and a conversation about what was presented will not happen. I do notice that previously his television was always tuned to Fox network but is no longer. I suppose he doesn't even want his beliefs shaken, even by that particular networks filter.

It’s pretty telling how many friends and family members I have who say “I don’t watch or listen to the news anymore…it’s so negative and I don’t need that in my life” I guess “head in the sand” is one way to play it. 

lousubcap

When was news not predominantly negative?? A cover for the head in the sand (aka ostrich) approach when the news contains information that challenges the big lie that you are so axle-wrapped around.  Sad and scary.  

Ozzie_Isaac

lousubcap said:

When was news not predominantly negative?? A cover for the head in the sand (aka ostrich) approach when the news contains information that challenges the big lie that you are so axle-wrapped around.  Sad and scary.  

And the uninformed still get to vote.  My son showed me a Tik-Tok challenge where people did "eenee-meanie-minni-moo" to pick who they were voting for and what referendums they voted for.

I understand the historical injustices related to "acceptability tests" for voting, so I do not pretend this is an easy problem to solve, but when this is all seen and treated as a joke, how do we stand a chance.

JohnInCarolina

Botch said:

The Cult don't need no Facts!  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ
 
I can't help but think a simple Intelligence test should be required to vote (and to buy guns) as is required to practice medicine, drive a car, work in a beauty salon, fish, apply pesticides, practice law, etc.  

I just watched that video, and man you have to hand it to Klepper the way he tees these people up. Given how many times he's done something similar, you'd think people like this would run for the hills once he appeared on site.  But then you realize that probably none of those people have seen him before, because they don't watch TDS.  

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

Botch said:

The Cult don't need no Facts!  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ
 
I can't help but think a simple Intelligence test should be required to vote (and to buy guns) as is required to practice medicine, drive a car, work in a beauty salon, fish, apply pesticides, practice law, etc.  

I just watched that video, and man you have to hand it to Klepper the way he tees these people up. Given how many times he's done something similar, you'd think people like this would run for the hills once he appeared on site.  But then you realize that probably none of those people have seen him before, because they don't watch TDS.  

I made it half-way through.  The cringe factor was just too much for me.  That guy has brass balls.  I would have been afraid someone would have shot him.  Not sure which group has a higher general IQ Juggalos or people who still support Trump in 2022.

nolaegghead

Juggalos are music fans, and if you want to pigeon hole them, they are generally uneducated from poor, working class families and economically depressed small towns.  When the FBI categorized them as a "gang", it really screwed with their civil rights.  

The Jaggalos used to hate Trump, don't know if they still do or not.

I think it's easy to appraise groups of people as low-IQ, but I think it would be more accurate to attribute behavior to lack of education or propensity to believe conspiracy.  Lots of that is cultural, sure, but there are plenty of high and low IQ people on both sides of anything.  Just more likely on one side the ones with a high IQ are manipulative.

JohnInCarolina

The Juggalos always just seemed like weirdos to me.  There are a lot of really smart weirdos.  Trust me, I work in academia.

dmchicago

JohnInCarolina said:

The Juggalos always just seemed like weirdos to me.  There are a lot of really smart weirdos.  Trust me, I work in academia.

You just replied to a smart weirdo. 

Legume

Ozzie_Isaac said:

lousubcap said:

When was news not predominantly negative?? A cover for the head in the sand (aka ostrich) approach when the news contains information that challenges the big lie that you are so axle-wrapped around.  Sad and scary.  

And the uninformed still get to vote.  My son showed me a Tik-Tok challenge where people did "eenee-meanie-minni-moo" to pick who they were voting for and what referendums they voted for.

I understand the historical injustices related to "acceptability tests" for voting, so I do not pretend this is an easy problem to solve, but when this is all seen and treated as a joke, how do we stand a chance.

They are a means to an end, unfortunately they believe they are part of a movement…and will probably end up with the opposite of what they think.

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

Juggalos are music fans, and if you want to pigeon hole them, they are generally uneducated from poor, working class families and economically depressed small towns.  When the FBI categorized them as a "gang", it really screwed with their civil rights.  

The Jaggalos used to hate Trump, don't know if they still do or not.

I think it's easy to appraise groups of people as low-IQ, but I think it would be more accurate to attribute behavior to lack of education or propensity to believe conspiracy.  Lots of that is cultural, sure, but there are plenty of high and low IQ people on both sides of anything.  Just more likely on one side the ones with a high IQ are manipulative.

Thank you for over analyzing and shitting on my joke.  Mr. Pedantic.

A friend of mine in highschool was a Juggalo.  He ended up with a full academic scholarship to Brown and was part of their undergrad program that was automatically approved for Med school.  He graduated, became a doctor, and specializes in Emergency medicine with rights at three major hospitals in California.  I realize I was make sweeping generalizations and stereotypes.

JohnInCarolina

nolaegghead

The Cen-Tex Smoker

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Botch said:

The Cult don't need no Facts!  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ
 
I can't help but think a simple Intelligence test should be required to vote (and to buy guns) as is required to practice medicine, drive a car, work in a beauty salon, fish, apply pesticides, practice law, etc.  

I just watched that video, and man you have to hand it to Klepper the way he tees these people up. Given how many times he's done something similar, you'd think people like this would run for the hills once he appeared on site.  But then you realize that probably none of those people have seen him before, because they don't watch TDS.  

I made it half-way through.  The cringe factor was just too much for me.  That guy has brass balls.  I would have been afraid someone would have shot him.  Not sure which group has a higher general IQ Juggalos or people who still support Trump in 2022.

The r/juggalo subReddit is gold. GOLD! 

Legume

The Cen-Tex Smoker said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Botch said:

The Cult don't need no Facts!  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ
 
I can't help but think a simple Intelligence test should be required to vote (and to buy guns) as is required to practice medicine, drive a car, work in a beauty salon, fish, apply pesticides, practice law, etc.  

I just watched that video, and man you have to hand it to Klepper the way he tees these people up. Given how many times he's done something similar, you'd think people like this would run for the hills once he appeared on site.  But then you realize that probably none of those people have seen him before, because they don't watch TDS.  

I made it half-way through.  The cringe factor was just too much for me.  That guy has brass balls.  I would have been afraid someone would have shot him.  Not sure which group has a higher general IQ Juggalos or people who still support Trump in 2022.

The r/juggalo subReddit is gold. GOLD! 

Is it all aggies?  Whoop whoop!

They have their own language, happy enough to not know it.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1540859221373292546?s=20&t=5gCfgi-mV9HnqnfeUgWtyA

Legume

The earth is flat. 

Botch

JohnInCarolina said:

http://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1540859221373292546?s=20&t=5gCfgi-mV9HnqnfeUgWtyA

There is a common saying now: every republican accusation is actually a confession.  And its 95% true.  
There were two (that I know of) audio/video manipulations leading up to the '20 elections.  The first was a slowed-down audio of Peloci, which made her sound drunk; was soon exposed to be done by an unemployed maga fan playing on his computer in his mommy's basement.  
The second one was audio/video of a press conference in the White House, which showed (Jim?) Acosta (CNN) supposedly striking a staff member who tried to take away his microphone.  petapixel.com released a side-by-side clip of the real-time, and the sped-up, section of that video.  It was clearly another fake, but the scary part is that the video was released by the White House!!  
There's no telling how many video clips of Biden (an easy target) are being more carefully manipulated these past two years.  The Uneducated are so easily manipulated.   

dmchicago

Legume said:

The earth is flat. 

Birds. ‘Nuff said.