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'No Way To Prevent This,' says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999
    caliking said:
    I'm waiting for the retort "but, ONLY 2 people were killed, because the good guys with guns got there in time!"
    And no doubt the teacher who sacrificed herself to save some of her students is considered one of the “sheep”
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  • WildmanWilsonWildmanWilson Posts: 353
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    WildmanWilson said:
    JohnInCarolina said:

    Tragic yes...How many kids died in a swimming pool or from household cleaners or medications laying around? The sad part is how you libs actually celebrate inside when you can point out somehow a gun was to "blame".
    We have childproof caps required on meeication, and very strict fencing and audible alarms on pools to prevent these tragedies.
    Yet you don’t see them taking away a pool from me when some crazy person drowned their own kids. Pools also are not a constitutional right. Guns are. 

    How about we have gun education classes in the school to teach safety? I’m thinking it’s a good idea. 
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  • dmchicagodmchicago Posts: 4,293
    WildmanWilson said:

    How about we have gun education classes in the school to teach safety? I’m thinking it’s a good idea. 
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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999
    I’m sure gun education classes would’ve stopped any number of mass shootings we’ve seen over the last… three decades.  If only Dylan had known how to be safe…
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  • calikingcaliking Posts: 17,721
    WildmanWilson said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    WildmanWilson said:
    JohnInCarolina said:

    Tragic yes...How many kids died in a swimming pool or from household cleaners or medications laying around? The sad part is how you libs actually celebrate inside when you can point out somehow a gun was to "blame".
    We have childproof caps required on meeication, and very strict fencing and audible alarms on pools to prevent these tragedies.
    Yet you don’t see them taking away a pool from me when some crazy person drowned their own kids. Pools also are not a constitutional right. Guns are. 

    How about we have gun education classes in the school to teach safety? I’m thinking it’s a good idea. 
    Perfect opportunity to call for a "ferinstance".

    Deaths in 2022, caused by a school shooter (not even counting all gun deaths nationally)... 48

    https://everytownresearch.org/maps/gunfire-on-school-grounds/#:~:text=In 2022 there were at,deaths and 111 injuries nationally.

    Deaths in 2022, caused by "some crazy person drowned their own kids."... ?

    You always seem to forget that the Constitution can be amended. 

    Makes me wonder what kind of fumes you've sniffed. 



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  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 22,851
    edited October 2022
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-gun-earlier-school-shooting-92204175

    This is my beef with current gun laws. The St. Louis school shooter failed his background check at the gun shop so he just bought an AR in a private sale and shot 9 people. The police had been called to his home because he had lifelong mental health issues and his parents found the gun. Even though the police knew he failed a background check and had known mental health issues, they could not do anything about it as this gun was legally purchased from a private seller. This is insanity. 

    ST. LOUIS -- The 19-year-old gunman who forced his way into a St. Louis school and killed two people purchased the AR-15-style rifle from a private seller after an FBI background check stopped him from buying a weapon from a licensed dealer, police said Thursday.

    Harris’ mother was “heartbroken” by the shooting, Police Commissioner Michael Sack said. She and other relatives had long dealt with Harris’ mental health issues and even had him committed at times, Sack said at a news conference on Wednesday. They also monitored his mail and often checked his room to make sure he did not have a weapon.
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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999
    The Cen-Tex Smoker said:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-gun-earlier-school-shooting-92204175

    This is my beef with current gun laws. The St. Louis school shooter failed his background check at the gun shop so he just bought an AR in a private sale and shot 9 people. The police had been called to his home because he had lifelong mental health issues and his parents found the gun. Even though the police knew he failed a background check and had known mental health issues, they could not do anything about it as this gun was legally purchased from a private seller. This is insanity. 

    ST. LOUIS -- The 19-year-old gunman who forced his way into a St. Louis school and killed two people purchased the AR-15-style rifle from a private seller after an FBI background check stopped him from buying a weapon from a licensed dealer, police said Thursday.

    Harris’ mother was “heartbroken” by the shooting, Police Commissioner Michael Sack said. She and other relatives had long dealt with Harris’ mental health issues and even had him committed at times, Sack said at a news conference on Wednesday. They also monitored his mail and often checked his room to make sure he did not have a weapon.
    Yep.  Missouri has some of the loosest gun laws in the US.  
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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    JohnInCarolina said:
    I’m sure gun education classes would’ve stopped any number of mass shootings we’ve seen over the last… three decades.  If only Dylan had known how to be safe…
    No f*ing way a class on gun safety stops any of these mass shootings.  It might actually make them worse.  Teach kids proper stance, how to aim, how to clear a jam?  Why do we want better trained shooters.  This is about the stupidest idea I have ever read in my entire life.  SMH. Off course this would come from a liberal indoctrination specialist.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • lousubcaplousubcap Posts: 28,169
    @Ozzie_Isaac - @JohnInCarolina was clearly being sarcastic with those remarks.  Feeding a troll who has espoused education as one means to address gun violence in society.  
    At least today is Friday!  
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  • fishlessmanfishlessman Posts: 30,868
    lousubcap said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac - @JohnInCarolina was clearly being sarcastic with those remarks.  Feeding a troll who has espoused education as one means to address gun violence in society.  
    At least today is Friday!  

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  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 9,211
    lousubcap said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac - @JohnInCarolina was clearly being sarcastic with those remarks.  Feeding a troll who has espoused education as one means to address gun violence in society.  
    At least today is Friday!  

    I think there are two people there throwing sarcasm about (tho I can never be certain about one of them). :)
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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999
    HeavyG said:
    lousubcap said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac - @JohnInCarolina was clearly being sarcastic with those remarks.  Feeding a troll who has espoused education as one means to address gun violence in society.  
    At least today is Friday!  

    I think there are two people there throwing sarcasm about (tho I can never be certain about one of them). :)
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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    JohnInCarolina said:
    HeavyG said:
    lousubcap said:
    @Ozzie_Isaac - @JohnInCarolina was clearly being sarcastic with those remarks.  Feeding a troll who has espoused education as one means to address gun violence in society.  
    At least today is Friday!  

    I think there are two people there throwing sarcasm about (tho I can never be certain about one of them). :)
    The OT section of the forum is like a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside of an enigma.  
    It is like open mic night at a shady comedy club right next to a run down stripper joint.  This is where you try out new material before your Netflix special.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

    It amazes me, how many people do not realize how the future works.
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  • BotchBotch Posts: 13,949
    Did someone say "enema"??
     
    And is the stripper joint to the east, or west?  
     


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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    Botch said:
    Did someone say "enema"??
     
    And is the stripper joint to the east, or west?  
     




    Apparently Googlemaps won't show strip club names.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • BotchBotch Posts: 13,949
    Um, yes they will.
     

     
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  • BotchBotch Posts: 13,949
    ^^^ That map actually brought back some Air Force mammeri  memories...
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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    Botch said:
    ^^^ That map actually brought back some Air Force mammeri  memories...
    Weird, I must have some map setting messed up.  I like your map better.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

    It amazes me, how many people do not realize how the future works.
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  • WildmanWilsonWildmanWilson Posts: 353
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    I’m sure gun education classes would’ve stopped any number of mass shootings we’ve seen over the last… three decades.  If only Dylan had known how to be safe…
    No f*ing way a class on gun safety stops any of these mass shootings.  It might actually make them worse.  Teach kids proper stance, how to aim, how to clear a jam?  Why do we want better trained shooters.  This is about the stupidest idea I have ever read in my entire life.  SMH. Off course this would come from a liberal indoctrination specialist.
    Yet you are fine with sexual education being taught and transvestite dance day with the children....Will teaching kids the dangers of drugs turn them into dope heads? 

    Being educated on guns will not turn them into bloodthirst savages. It teaches respect and the proper way to handle them. Your stance on this is stupid like most lib ideas. 
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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999

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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    WildmanWilson said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    I’m sure gun education classes would’ve stopped any number of mass shootings we’ve seen over the last… three decades.  If only Dylan had known how to be safe…
    No f*ing way a class on gun safety stops any of these mass shootings.  It might actually make them worse.  Teach kids proper stance, how to aim, how to clear a jam?  Why do we want better trained shooters.  This is about the stupidest idea I have ever read in my entire life.  SMH. Off course this would come from a liberal indoctrination specialist.
    Yet you are fine with sexual education being taught and transvestite dance day with the children....Will teaching kids the dangers of drugs turn them into dope heads? 

    Being educated on guns will not turn them into bloodthirst savages. It teaches respect and the proper way to handle them. Your stance on this is stupid like most lib ideas. 
    You want the government and a school to teach your children about guns?

    Gun education and respect should be taught at home.  I don't want teachers responsible for that.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

    It amazes me, how many people do not realize how the future works.
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  • The Cen-Tex SmokerThe Cen-Tex Smoker Posts: 22,851


     Never could have seen this coming. 
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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    AZ has permitless carry both open and concealed.  Cannot carry them into places where majority of the sales come from alcohol or if posted.  We do not have a rash of shootings, still plenty of good ol' fist-a-cuffs.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

    It amazes me, how many people do not realize how the future works.
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  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 9,211
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    AZ has permitless carry both open and concealed.  Cannot carry them into places where majority of the sales come from alcohol or if posted.  We do not have a rash of shootings, still plenty of good ol' fist-a-cuffs.

    Looks like you have more gun violence than 30 other states:




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  • nolaeggheadnolaegghead Posts: 41,054
    WildmanWilson said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    I’m sure gun education classes would’ve stopped any number of mass shootings we’ve seen over the last… three decades.  If only Dylan had known how to be safe…
    No f*ing way a class on gun safety stops any of these mass shootings.  It might actually make them worse.  Teach kids proper stance, how to aim, how to clear a jam?  Why do we want better trained shooters.  This is about the stupidest idea I have ever read in my entire life.  SMH. Off course this would come from a liberal indoctrination specialist.
    Yet you are fine with sexual education being taught and transvestite dance day with the children....Will teaching kids the dangers of drugs turn them into dope heads? 

    Being educated on guns will not turn them into bloodthirst savages. It teaches respect and the proper way to handle them. Your stance on this is stupid like most lib ideas. 

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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    HeavyG said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    AZ has permitless carry both open and concealed.  Cannot carry them into places where majority of the sales come from alcohol or if posted.  We do not have a rash of shootings, still plenty of good ol' fist-a-cuffs.

    Looks like you have more gun violence than 30 other states:




    Less than 19 other states.  Also, these are death rates.  Arizonians just might be better shots.  Look at crimes involving a weapon, or just gun injuries.  I bet the order shuffles a bit.  When I lived in Illinois, there were way way way more shootings in the news.  You rarely hear about them in AZ.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • HeavyGHeavyG Posts: 9,211
    edited November 2022
    "Less than 19 other states."
    You're a glass is half full kinda guy aren't you? :)







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  • Ozzie_IsaacOzzie_Isaac Posts: 16,417
    HeavyG said:
    "Less than 19 other states."
    You're a glass is half full kinda guy aren't you? :)







    More of a "glass is too big" type of person.  Or is a glass even the right vessel.
    If it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.

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  • JohnInCarolinaJohnInCarolina Posts: 26,999
    This is obviously what happens when you have a woke military:


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