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I don't know if there's a regularly published stat like "GDP per capita". Since the US's population is 1/4th that of China's, that might be an interesting number to see.JohnInCarolina said:
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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Yes, you are right.Kayak said:
Even socialist-anachists can quote the World Factbook. For the second time in this thread. Strange to hear a mathematics professor defend a less accurate method, because ‘everybody does it’😀JohnInCarolina said:
Did you really just send me a link to a website hosted by our own CIA?Kayak said:
Considered the most accurate comparison of economies:JohnInCarolina said:Kayak said:A good read if you are wondering how it might all play out.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/25/ukraine-what-russia-wants-what-the-west-can-do/
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https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison
OK, well… that definitely wasn’t what I was expecting based on your post history.
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
There is.Botch said:
I don't know if there's a regularly published stat like "GDP per capita". Since the US's population is 1/4th that of China's, that might be an interesting number to see.JohnInCarolina said:
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion.
The US is 13th. China is… 79th."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Great post @Kayak. Like your style!Kayak said:
Even socialist-anachists can quote the World Factbook. For the second time in this thread. Strange to hear a mathematics professor defend a less accurate method, because ‘everybody does it’😀JohnInCarolina said:
Did you really just send me a link to a website hosted by our own CIA?Kayak said:
Considered the most accurate comparison of economies:JohnInCarolina said:Kayak said:A good read if you are wondering how it might all play out.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/25/ukraine-what-russia-wants-what-the-west-can-do/
🤔🤔🤔
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison
OK, well… that definitely wasn’t what I was expecting based on your post history.
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion. -
Sorry. Didn’t mean to come off like that other poster, who for some reason now likes my posts.JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.Kayak said:
Even socialist-anachists can quote the World Factbook. For the second time in this thread. Strange to hear a mathematics professor defend a less accurate method, because ‘everybody does it’😀JohnInCarolina said:
Did you really just send me a link to a website hosted by our own CIA?Kayak said:
Considered the most accurate comparison of economies:JohnInCarolina said:Kayak said:A good read if you are wondering how it might all play out.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/25/ukraine-what-russia-wants-what-the-west-can-do/
🤔🤔🤔
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison
OK, well… that definitely wasn’t what I was expecting based on your post history.
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion.Bob
New Cumberland, PA
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I didn't take it that way at all. And my response to you was kind of snarky, so no worries.Kayak said:
Sorry. Didn’t mean to come off like that other poster, who for some reason now likes my posts.JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.Kayak said:
Even socialist-anachists can quote the World Factbook. For the second time in this thread. Strange to hear a mathematics professor defend a less accurate method, because ‘everybody does it’😀JohnInCarolina said:
Did you really just send me a link to a website hosted by our own CIA?Kayak said:
Considered the most accurate comparison of economies:JohnInCarolina said:Kayak said:A good read if you are wondering how it might all play out.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/25/ukraine-what-russia-wants-what-the-west-can-do/
🤔🤔🤔
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison
OK, well… that definitely wasn’t what I was expecting based on your post history.
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion.
But to your original point, it's unclear to me that the metric referenced in that article - GDP in terms of purchasing power - is more "accurate" than simply the GDP. It's simply another way to view the information. Much like GDP per capita. And I wasn't defending one vs the other, just referencing how I think most people would think about one economy vs another."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Nominal GDP has it’s place, but when you are comparing to a country that manipulates it’s exchange rate to USD, like China, it gives a false result. PPP compares apples to apples in that case. “GDP” and “Economy” seem to be very flexible terms, with a lot of different ways to view them.JohnInCarolina said:
I didn't take it that way at all. And my response to you was kind of snarky, so no worries.Kayak said:
Sorry. Didn’t mean to come off like that other poster, who for some reason now likes my posts.JohnInCarolina said:
Yes, you are right.Kayak said:
Even socialist-anachists can quote the World Factbook. For the second time in this thread. Strange to hear a mathematics professor defend a less accurate method, because ‘everybody does it’😀JohnInCarolina said:
Did you really just send me a link to a website hosted by our own CIA?Kayak said:
Considered the most accurate comparison of economies:JohnInCarolina said:Kayak said:A good read if you are wondering how it might all play out.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/25/ukraine-what-russia-wants-what-the-west-can-do/
🤔🤔🤔
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison
OK, well… that definitely wasn’t what I was expecting based on your post history.
Anyway, I think most people would read one economy passing another as simply a measure of raw GDP. And there it’s not terribly close. Not that it matters terribly to the argument being made in the piece, it just struck me as kind of an odd assertion.
But to your original point, it's unclear to me that the metric referenced in that article - GDP in terms of purchasing power - is more "accurate" than simply the GDP. It's simply another way to view the information. Much like GDP per capita. And I wasn't defending one vs the other, just referencing how I think most people would think about one economy vs another.
Anywho, how ‘bout those effin Russians?Bob
New Cumberland, PA
XL with the usual accessories -
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
I hope General Milley has been on the phone with his Russian counterpart to get a better assessment of just what this means. Any saber rattling using the nuke card is taking the posturing to a whole new level.
I have read and watched several different news sources this AM. The war is not going anywhere near what Putin expected and he tightened the Western alliance as opposed to driving a wedge. So, he is getting himself boxed-in. Yes the sanctions will hurt and hit at the everyday citizens. But to go to this position to boost his domestic standing will require explanation beyond what the Russian state media can spin.
Would that Putin can still be a rational actor.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
Saw an interview with a Russian watcher/psychologist yesterday, and there was another one this morning on CBS. The last two years Putin has changed, a lot. He was deathly afraid of COVID and had isolated himself to an extreme (I'm still surprised he flew to China), and the psychologist said his rambling rant a few days ago on TV was alarming to him. I'm very worried."First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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Me too, he seems unhinged. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail. The Russian military can't like the mess they've ended up in because of Putin's dream of a Greater Russia.Botch said:Saw an interview with a Russian watcher/psychologist yesterday, and there was another one this morning on CBS. The last two years Putin has changed, a lot. He was deathly afraid of COVID and had isolated himself to an extreme (I'm still surprised he flew to China), and the psychologist said his rambling rant a few days ago on TV was alarming to him. I'm very worried. -
The Ides of March are just around the corner. Putin needs a Julius Caesar move.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint.
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lousubcap said:The Ides of March are just around the corner. Putin needs a Julius Caesar move.
Who will be his Brutus?
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
Ceasar Salad:
"First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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Another perspective. Certainly worth considering, but I'm sure it won't be.
Putin’s Nuclear Threat – Consortium News
Bob
New Cumberland, PA
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Some info regarding the financial sanctions against Russia:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60550610?xtor=AL-72-[partner]-[gnl.newsletters]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi]&xtor=ES-213-[BBC News Newsletter]-2022February28-[business]
Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. CHEETO (aka Agent Orange) makes Nixon look like a saint. -
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anonymous-news-live-hacking-attacks-153528891.htmlAnonymous hacks Russia. Maybe they can set up Putin with a Grinder account.
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"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
A very weird place, indeed:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/ukrainian-fighters-grease-bullets-against-chechens-with-pig-fat?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB%2002.28.2022&utm_term=Editorial%20-%20Early%20Bird%20Brief
"First method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
- Niccolo MachiavelliOgden, UT, USA
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Color me skeptical on that reporting, Botch.Botch said:"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
JohnInCarolina said:
Color me skeptical on that reporting, Botch.Botch said:The report stated that the National Guard of Ukraine shared a video. I seriously doubt that is false, but I could be wrong, the veracity here is contingent that twitter account is legit.No official claim that's policy or wide-spread, just seems to be some single source propaganda.Same kind of anti-Muslim shenanigans were reported as occurring by Americans in Abu Ghraib. No one US service member would tweet something like that unless they wanted to end up in Ft Leavenworth.
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This business about dipping bullets in pigs blood has been going back for some time. Typically, it is made up.nolaegghead said:JohnInCarolina said:
Color me skeptical on that reporting, Botch.Botch said:The report stated that the National Guard of Ukraine shared a video. I seriously doubt that is false, but I could be wrong, the veracity here is contingent that twitter account is legit.No official claim that's policy or wide-spread, just seems to be some single source propaganda.Same kind of anti-Muslim shenanigans were reported as occurring by Americans in Abu Ghraib. No one US service member would tweet something like that unless they wanted to end up in Ft Leavenworth.
It just strikes me as a bit too convenient to Putin and his propaganda of Ukraine being filled with Nazis, when he is trying to get the Chechans to help him out as well."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Putin has a history of running false flag campaigns. In the case of Ukraine, they actually do have a nazi problem, but it's blown way out of proportion. The president is Jewish with family that died by the nazi "cleansing". The right wing nazi/nationalist problem is a disease that has been growing in many developed nations who paradoxically suffered from them in WWII. Take the GOP, for example.When it comes down to the nationalists, nazis and other right-wingers in Ukraine, vs Russia, it's all hands on deck and as the old proverb goes, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".______________________________________________I love lamp..
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Our nazi problem is tame in comparison. They just click "dislike" on everything decent, good and American.
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Lots of what ifs in there. If Russia has nukes, why does it need a buffer state at all? This seems more like Vlad's war than Russia's war.Kayak said:Another perspective. Certainly worth considering, but I'm sure it won't be.
Putin’s Nuclear Threat – Consortium News -
Maybe that would ease his tension.Gulfcoastguy said:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anonymous-news-live-hacking-attacks-153528891.htmlAnonymous hacks Russia. Maybe they can set up Putin with a Grinder account. -
And we don't even have an agree button any more.nolaegghead said:Our nazi problem is tame in comparison. They just click "dislike" on everything decent, good and American. -
I have a really hard time taking these kinds of arguments, which seem to still be centered on the notion that this was mostly about NATO, all that seriously. There's a strong "if she didn't want her husband to beat her, she shouldn't have made him angry" vibe to it all. It's gross.Eoin said:
Lots of what ifs in there. If Russia has nukes, why does it need a buffer state at all? This seems more like Vlad's war than Russia's war.Kayak said:Another perspective. Certainly worth considering, but I'm sure it won't be.
Putin’s Nuclear Threat – Consortium News
Just bizarre to me to place so much emphasis on what Putin has said, when he has clearly lied about so much. But even then, if you believe what he says, then you can't ignore that he's said Ukraine shouldn't exist.
His actions tell a very different story."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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