Pandemic updates 2.0

fishlessman

Canugghead said:

Wondering if testing rate and population density were taken into consideration.

they changed the metrics to show higher numbers, 7 day running averages for new cases to weekly case counts as an example. in mass the least dense areas have the most risk.  the counties circling boston are mostly the same but essex county has lower cases and lower first shots. im in maine half the time so i watch that as well, the most risk are in the unpopulated areas. new england hovers around to 90 percent and higher first dose count

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

fishlessman said:

its interesting that some of the least vaccinated states are some of the safest places right now looking at the covid maps

While I would love to claim that, just look at the pattern of variants outbreaks. Northern states are first the Southern states come 2 to 3 months later. It all has to do with climate, Northerners cluster inside in the winter and Southerners in the summer.

i can see it even just looking at counties in the same state up here

That's just the effect of population density.  

QDude

I am not an anti-vaxer but it seems crazy that the second Pfizer booster is only effective around 8 weeks.  Do we need to get a shot every two months to be protected?

nolaegghead

QDude said:

I am not an anti-vaxer but it seems crazy that the second Pfizer booster is only effective around 8 weeks.  Do we need to get a shot every two months to be protected?

It is what it is.  So many people worldwide are infected the mutation rate is high, unfortunately.  We will get better at this science thing, you were just born too soon.

dmchicago

Got my second Pfizer boost last week so 7 weeks to go. 

5g same as original shot, tho 

fishlessman

the new booster is odd, the chip is counting down

https://youtu.be/Vn31KFenBIo

SamIAm2

Episode 100: You Can't Stop the Wind - This Osterholm report has been available since April 21.
Been a little busy to see the last two weeks reports. Hard to believe this is the 100th podcast. Take away - The variant Omicron has variants, more than one.

nolaegghead

SamIAm2 said:

Episode 100: You Can't Stop the Wind - This Osterholm report has been available since April 21.
Been a little busy to see the last two weeks reports. Hard to believe this is the 100th podcast. Take away - The variant Omicron has variants, more than one.

I started listening to that in my shop yesterday, but was interrupted by the air compressor and tool noise. I made a note to listen through again.   I like Osterholm, he cares about people and is very pragmatic and experienced.

SamIAm2

Osterholm Report Episode 101- Class in Complicated Times was released today. Discuss the state of the pandemic in China, South Africa, and the U.S.; the latest data on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine; and CIDRAP's Coronavirus Vaccines Research and Development Roadmap.

SamIAm2

Osterholm Report Episode 102 - Choose Your Own Path released this morning. Discusses the state of the pandemic in the US and around the world, addresses recent comments about future COVID surges in the US, and answers a non-COVID query about pediatric hepatitis cases. Dr. Osterholm also provides some insight into how he has been handling the transition into a new normal.

SamIAm2

Osterholm Report Episode 103 - Words Matter released May 12. 
Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall discuss the trajectory of the pandemic in the U.S. and around the world, COVID "relapses" in patients taking Paxlovid, the significance of recent comments made by government officials regarding the current state of the pandemic.

lousubcap

I need to catch up on my required listening.  Thanks for the reminder.  

SamIAm2

@lousubcap - I realize that we tend to lose the sense of urgency about any issue as time moves forward. I have noticed that my post about these weekly podcasts have not been made in a timely manner and are rarely on the same day as posted on the CIDRAP website. I will keep posting no matter who is marking the post with dislike for the very reason you posted. 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/kniggem/status/1526375766010826753?s=20&t=DGI_PIJyVItIx5ISzh40Jg

SamIAm2

Osterholm Report Episode 104 - Tougher Than Rocket Science released May 19

fishlessman

long time friend has been in the hospital the last three days with this thing, seems to be getting better. dont drop your gaurd. he had it last summer as well but much more mild.

JohnInCarolina

fishlessman said:

long time friend has been in the hospital the last three days with this thing, seems to be getting better. dont drop your gaurd. he had it last summer as well but much more mild.

Yep it's going around.   I know as many people who've caught it in just the last few weeks as I ever had before.  

EggaddictArnold

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/328102

JohnInCarolina

EggaddictArnold said:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/328102

Welcome to the forum, person who is obviously not a troll…

SamIAm2

Osterholm Report Episode 105 - COVID-19, Monkeypox, and Pediatric  Hepatitis released May 26. Topics- the relatively lower rates of severe COVID illness and death in the US and many other parts of the world, the global monkeypox outbreak, and the latest on the rise in unexplained pediatric hepatitis 

Botch

I went to the Commissary today, to refill my larder/frig/freezer; first time in quite awhile.  
Not sure what's going on anymore.  The gate guards had no facemasks, nor were they a requirement in the Commissary (groceries).  Yet the entire engineering, and the maintenance, complexes were pretty much abandoned, no parked cars whatsoever.  
The guv'mint may have declared this Friday off, part of the holiday weekend, I don't know.  But I don't really understand what's going on right now.  

EggaddictArnold

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35363218/

JohnInCarolina

EggaddictArnold said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35363218/

Thank you again, person who is definitely not a troll…

SamIAm2

From the "study": "The cause of this trend is explained herein using the "Foegen effect" theory; that is, deep re-inhalation of hypercondensed droplets or pure virions caught in facemasks as droplets can worsen prognosis and might be linked to long-term effects of COVID-19 infection. While the "Foegen effect" is proven in vivo in an animal model, further research is needed to fully understand it." 

None of the article 32 references mentions this single, "proven in vivo" animal study.

Nor does this study mention what type of masks were in use in Kansas at the time of the study. I would expect some research on the size of hyper condensed droplets passing thru all available masks used during this study. 

lousubcap

After reading @SamIAm2 's post I read the article.  Tough sledding for me on a Saturday brisket cook AM.  Excellent points made by SamIAm2.  

JohnInCarolina

SamIAm2 said:

From the "study": "The cause of this trend is explained herein using the "Foegen effect" theory; that is, deep re-inhalation of hypercondensed droplets or pure virions caught in facemasks as droplets can worsen prognosis and might be linked to long-term effects of COVID-19 infection. While the "Foegen effect" is proven in vivo in an animal model, further research is needed to fully understand it." 

None of the article 32 references mentions this single, "proven in vivo" animal study.

Nor does this study mention what type of masks were in use in Kansas at the time of the study. I would expect some research on the size of hyper condensed droplets passing thru all available masks used during this study. 

I think it’s a fairly questionable study, and I have never heard of the journal that published it.  I’d take it with a hefty grain of salt at the moment.  

EggaddictArnold

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4118566

JohnInCarolina

Obvious troll is obvious…

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1534286371308851200?s=20&t=wjua2VuC7l-EczzlhgJ5pg

SamIAm2

Just wondering if the creator of the Florida Department of Health Covid-19 dashboard, Rebekah Jones, will at a minimum receive an apology from Governor DeSantis. Edit - removed WikipediA reference.