OT: hmmm...thank you officier : OT

lkapigian

IRS= In Range Shoot

northGAcock

I thought they were kinder and gentler? 

DoubleEgger

dharley said:

littlerascal56 said:

My local Social Security office also has an armed guard at the front door.  You get a number from him and then sit in the waiting room till they are ready for you.  

In Kansas!?!

Crazy is everywhere 

Carolina Q

littlerascal56 said:

My local Social Security office also has an armed guard at the front door.  You get a number from him and then sit in the waiting room till they are ready for you.  

Same here, but no confrontations. Then again, I've only been to SSA twice.

alaskanassasin

Been to ssa once and the guard didn’t even look up from his phone.  He must of sized us as a non threat coming through the door

JohnnyTarheel

Yeah there has got to be more to the story.. unless Ron had a mask on or something..

FlyOverCountry

Even I no that ain’t the way you spell pig.

erniemcclain

Scottsbluff Nebraska. We have an IRS cop.  One day she made me go back to my truck and leave my knife that folds and clips on my pocket 

Hans61

RRP said:

Just to make a long story short my career was as a "bean counter" so for 55 years now I have done my own taxes...no Turbo tax or any other crutch because sometimes I find it a challenge.

Today I needed a couple forms for a client rather than use the forms on the IRS site. I went to our local IRS office for those forms. Just as soon as I walked in some "Johnny Law wannabe" with a shaved haircut and top knot told me to stop! I said...huh??? He said "I told you to STOP! Why are you here?" At first I was dumbfounded, but said "to get some forms and I pointed at the wall where they have been for years! Even before I got my reply out he already had his hand on his pistol!!! 

I said "you're kidding me?" He said, No - this is now standard practice."

Guess I should sleep tight tonight knowing some skin head armed with a pistol and an IRS badge will be protecting us taxpayers from picking up blank forms at the "helpful IRS" office! 

That’s a really weird F-ing experience 

Legume

IRS office in Austin is surrounded by fencing topped with barbed wire.  Big, big processing facility.

Haven’t noticed any skinhead cops though.

Spaightlabs

JohnInCarolina said:

lwrehm said:

bgebrent said:

One more reason to carry.

Be careful, if AOC aka "THE DITZ" has her way you will NOT be allowed to "carry".

Sounds legit!

Totally!  Won't be able to eat beef anymore and I'll probs have to turn my diesel in.  Currently I am able to keep a bin of coal burning in the bed at all times, GBA!

alaskanassasin

Legume said:

IRS office in Austin is surrounded by fencing topped with barbed wire.  Big, big processing facility.

Haven’t noticed any skinhead cops though.

 Does that keep the airplanes out?

nolaegghead

some dude did fly his plane into an IRS office...

nolaegghead

What's a skinhead cop?

nolaegghead

MAGA hat wearer or somethin?

Ozzie_Isaac

MaskedMarvel said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Game wardens can search your deep freeze without a warrant.

Seriously? A deep freezer? Outside or inside your house?  Only thing that seems rational there is that outside it may fall under some sort of plain sight exemption?

They can enter and search your entire house, car, garage, and property without a warrant.  They have tremendous power.

Mattman3969

I bet Jorts were involved

saluki2007

Are you sure you weren't at Big Al's?

Battleborn

Ozzie_Isaac said:

MaskedMarvel said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Game wardens can search your deep freeze without a warrant.

Seriously? A deep freezer? Outside or inside your house?  Only thing that seems rational there is that outside it may fall under some sort of plain sight exemption?

They can enter and search your entire house, car, garage, and property without a warrant.  They have tremendous power.

Do you have case law for that by any chance? Not trying to be a smarta$$. Just curious. I have never seen the Game Warden Clause to the 4th Amendment. 

alaskanassasin

Fish cops 

alaskanassasin

Nobody enters my house or freezer without a warrant on invite

The Cen-Tex Smoker

nolaegghead said:

some dude did fly his plane into an IRS office...

True- that was an off-site office building that housed some IRS offices. That dude was nuts. Lit his own house in fire, tried to kill his wife (if I remember right)  and flew his plane into an office building. He died. 

MaskedMarvel

Battleborn said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

MaskedMarvel said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Game wardens can search your deep freeze without a warrant.

Seriously? A deep freezer? Outside or inside your house?  Only thing that seems rational there is that outside it may fall under some sort of plain sight exemption?

They can enter and search your entire house, car, garage, and property without a warrant.  They have tremendous power.

Do you have case law for that by any chance? Not trying to be a smarta$$. Just curious. I have never seen the Game Warden Clause to the 4th Amendment. 

Maybe you give up that protection by registering for a license?

thetrim

Anyone tries to open my freezer without a warrant, they'll end up in said freezer..

thetrim

frazzdaddy

thetrim said:

Anyone tries to open my freezer without a warrant, they'll end up in said freezer..

With some favas beans and a nice chianti?

Ozzie_Isaac

Battleborn said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

MaskedMarvel said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Game wardens can search your deep freeze without a warrant.

Seriously? A deep freezer? Outside or inside your house?  Only thing that seems rational there is that outside it may fall under some sort of plain sight exemption?

They can enter and search your entire house, car, garage, and property without a warrant.  They have tremendous power.

Do you have case law for that by any chance? Not trying to be a smarta$$. Just curious. I have never seen the Game Warden Clause to the 4th Amendment. 

https://www.fws.gov/policy/445fw1.html

Under certain circumstances, there are exceptions to the warrant requirements for some types of searches and seizures. Other types of lesser intrusions do not require probable cause. We describe these circumstances in sections 1.15 through 1.25 of this chapter.

The Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972. This statute authorizes Service officers to search with or without a warrant (16 U.S.C. 1377(d)

The Airborne Hunting Act. This statute authorizes Service officers to search with or without a warrant (16 U.S.C. 742j-1(d)).

The Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. This statute authorizes Service officers to search with or without a warrant (16 U.S.C. 668b(a)).

 The Lacey Act Amendments of 1988 (16 U.S.C. 3375(b)):

(1) Authorizes Service officers to “…search and seize, with or without a warrant, in accordance with any guidelines which may be issued by the Attorney General . 

bgebrent

Do you by chance look like Jussie Smollet?

Battleborn

Ok, to break this down, a law enforcement officer may not enter your home and inspect your freezer without a warrant. What these searches are talking about are warrant exception searches that have been decided by state and federal Supreme Courts. Most notably the vehicle exception. 
In order to search a vehicle without a warrant a few things have to happen. First, the vehicle has to be readily mobile and there has to be probable cause that there are items in the vehicle that are illegal or contraband. Also, the majority of state constitutions require a good faith determination that a warrant cannot be obtained prior to the search. 
Can FWS come onto private property? Absolutely. These are administrative searches. The point of these searches is to insure applicable laws are being followed for the public good. (I.e. hunting license checks) 
If they came and demanded access to your home freezer without a warrant, I would hire a lawyer and await a nice settlement. 

nolaegghead

Anyone consider the possibility Ron just forgot to put his pants on before entering the IRS office?  Makes the police reaction seem pretty normal.