heroin

MaC122

I don't know if you might have a friend that has a problem, or if you might. I'm a firefighter and I have been to 4 dead people under the age of 30 in the last2 months, all because of heroin. Florida has banned the pill mils so the only choice is heroin. Its bad...im going to them cold. No chance to help them

johnkitchens

That is really bad. It seems to be a growing problem everywhere. 

bgebrent

It's epidemic and a horrible, destructive addiction.  The drug drives all decisions.  Very sad.  Thankfully Narcan is most of you first responders so you have half a chance.  Thanks for what you do @MaC122!

WeberWho

Cheaper and easier to get than pain pills. Getting to be a problem here in MN. 

northGAcock

To the forum......It's a terrible problem that hits many of our families. I know as it has effected mine. We are one of the lucky ones (want go into detail here). I have felt that I have much to share, but no connection to those who need help with their children or spouse fighting this battle. Most people view it as a private matter. In fact, a good support system is very important. I don't have answers....I don't have a magic solution....but perhaps can share what worked and didn't work for my wife and I as we worked through it. I am not a counselor....just a parent who made it to the other side.....and happy to give back. Many of our instincts as a parent, are really counter productive to a good end. That is what makes this so difficult. We made many mistakes and were enablers for a period of time. Feel free to PM me if you need someone to talk with confidentially. 

@MaC122 I do not wish to hijack your thread or make a private matter public. Rest assured that many on here are faced with this in their families....those that don't are extremely lucky. I would like to provide some hope to those parents who are having to deal with addiction. Thanks for what you do...and to all, never give up. Also thank you for bringing awareness to this. 

MaC122

bags are $10 and im finding people are dead. This one guy was so dead that he looked liked a bloated black guy, even though he was a skinny white guy. The pill mill crack down has lead to heroin.

tarheelmatt

Unfortunately, some people will do whatever it takes to get high and get off.  Close one avenue and another is around the corner.    

GalanteNate_OneEa

Wait, I'm sorry to be this guy, but you just said florida band pill mills SO the only other choice was heroin….right? thats what you said?

Spaightlabs

Doesn't seem like you are sorry to be that guy at all.

nolan8v

There is a local news channel here in metro Atlanta that reported on a series of investigations about the heroin problem in three counties in Georgia that have been labeled as "The Triangle" based on the counties' localities.

http://www.11alive.com/news/investigations/triangle/the-triangle-investigation/94225151

This reminds me of the crack problems of the mid 80's to early 90s.

It's sad to say the least

MaC122

GalanteNate_OneEa said:

Wait, I'm sorry to be this guy, but you just said florida band pill mills SO the only other choice was heroin….right? thats what you said?

yup

GalanteNate_OneEa

Spaightlabs said:

Doesn't seem like you are sorry to be that guy at all.

No, I am, I should not have s#it in my back yard

MaC122

heroin is so cheap and its a better alternative to pain pills. There lucky if i can give them Narcan in time.  It's bad...look out for your family

MaC122

just tired of seeing dead 30 year olds

Lit

They were dieing just as often from Oxy. Grew up in Florida and went to college there. And have lost atleast 5 decent friends to Oxy and Coke and numerous more that should have died. People are going to abuse whatever they get their hands on. 

GalanteNate_OneEa

@MaC122  You are drunk and venting, right? Cause thats cool, I get it.

JohnInCarolina

YukonRon

Heroin users have no idea how many lives they ruin for their selfishness. My life was just one of many. It cost me everything I owned, my marriage and my family.
I am trying to rebuild my life. I am fortunate to have met someone that had been through similar, and we helped one another through it. We are getting there.
If anyone is touched by this situation and needs to talk, call me anytime. The faster you act, the better chance you have to minimize the damage.
It is a very ugly world, and you need to avoid it with all the courage you can muster. 
I can help. I can tell you what to look for if you suspect it is going on. I learned the hard way.
@MaC122 I have been there. I know of what you speak. 

tarheelmatt

JohnInCarolina said:

Wow!  That's terrible.  

dougcrann

Heroin....my dad had an employee that was hooked on it. Lee died at 35 years of age from coronary disease....

GalanteNate_OneEa

JohnInCarolina said:

There are charts that will state all kinds of facts, like that fact that the population has grown.

Spaightlabs

GalanteNate_OneEa said:

JohnInCarolina said:

There are charts that will state all kinds of facts, like that face that the population has grown.

You trolling for the 'd.ick of the day' award, or what is your agenda?

GalanteNate_OneEa

MaC122 said:

just tired of seeing dead 30 year olds

Dead 30 year olds who chose to drive 45 min to pick up a bundle of heron, and then blame it on a disease.  I don't remember my grandmother driving to newark or patterson to pick up cancer.  I'm tired of finding out that live or die, some get narcan twice in the same night.  Lets take away the only consequence to a growing epidemic.  I absolutely don't want anyone to lose their life, but really? Narcan is a crappy ass bandage for a arterial bleed 

MaC122

GalanteNate_OneEa said:

@MaC122  You are drunk and veining, right? Cause thats cool, I get it.

maybe so. Im just dealing with dead people

Wolfpack

Tough to understand- wish the families dealing with these types of tragedies the strength to persevere. 

JohnInCarolina

GalanteNate_OneEa said:

JohnInCarolina said:

There are charts that will state all kinds of facts, like that fact that the population has grown.

I have no idea what to make of your comment here.

Lit

JohnInCarolina said:

If you look at the ODs from Oxy it's probably the exact opposite. They used to have a time released coating that you could leave in your mouth for awhile then crush them up and snort or cook. They got rid of those and they have some gel coating now so people can't do that anymore. So even if people can get them they aren't the same those people have to go to heroine. It's really just moving the numbers around. 

northGAcock

YukonRon said:

Heroin users have no idea how many lives they ruin for their selfishness. My life was just one of many. It cost me everything I owned, my marriage and my family.
I am trying to rebuild my life. I am fortunate to have met someone that had been through similar, and we helped one another through it. We are getting there.
If anyone is touched by this situation and needs to talk, call me anytime. The faster you act, the better chance you have to minimize the damage.
It is a very ugly world, and you need to avoid it with all the courage you can muster. 
I can help. I can tell you what to look for if you suspect it is going on. I learned the hard way.
@MaC122 I have been there. I know of what you speak. 

Ron.....that takes a tremendous amount of courage to post this. No one is pulling for you and your wife more than I. 

tarheelmatt

Honestly Nate, I'm not sure how to take your comments.  

These people are our own people, but need care and help.  Their situation is not so much different than other folks with struggles.  I've battled some struggles and still do.  Some cope differently than others and unfortunately hit a bad spot in life, hey we all do, right?  

@YukonRon , pretty awesome that you shared that buddy.  That takes courage and glad you're doing very well for yourself.  There was possibly that one person that helped you brush your knees off and gave you another chance.  Any of us can be that person to someone else guys.  No need to be inconsiderate, we're all together.  

YukonRon

JohnInCarolina said:

GalanteNate_OneEa said:

JohnInCarolina said:

There are charts that will state all kinds of facts, like that fact that the population has grown.

I have no idea what to make of your comment here.

His was an absurd statement, of course. Numbers are going up, Oxy in Kentucky is referred to as "Hillbilly Heroin." Tons of pills were brought in cooked, processed and injected. 
In Louisville, the OD, DOA, through March of 2016, is twice the number of the previous four years, combined. How is that for population growth?

MaC122

@JohnInCarolina is our kids are dying.