OT - What are you doing right now?

pgprescott

thetrim said:

Not much in the way of privacy there. 

Botch

thetrim said:

Wow, you cracked a toilet seat and they're replacing them all?!?

JohnInCarolina

Battleborn said:

bucky925 said:

Battleborn said:

Doing Common Core math with my 2nd grader.  I understand the concept, but, the concept is stupid.  

I just asked my wife (30 years teaching 2nd grade) about Common Core math.  After a lengthy explanation that I didn't understand at all, she pretty much said it's just stupid. 

I can understand the fact that I think it is dumb because it is not how I was taught. They have these kids learning to subtract by adding and using a weird number line to show their work. 

 What you are probably describing is a concept called place value.  It's backed up by a good amount of pedagogical research.  Not stupid at all actually.  The fact is that the way most of us were taught math is what was stupid. 

Probably the simplest example of this is for me to ask you to add $0.99 five times.  Like 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99.  The way we were taught is to stack them all together and add the cents first, carry the tens, etc.  But that's actually slow.  The smart way is to add five dollars together, and then subtract a nickel, to arrive at $4.95.   

northGAcock

Jstroke said:

northGAcock said:

New model for working the gl

where  did you see that? Find or buy?

Was hanging on a wall outside a local restaurant / tavern. Did’t purchase, steal acquire in any way. 

ColtsFan

ColtsFan said:

New reading material

I'm in trouble. Unboxed these yesterday and SWMBO saw them last night.

Her: What the hell. Did you buy those?
Me: Yup
Her: I bought those for you for Christmas. They're in my closet
Me: You shouldn't have deviated from the list I gave you

That was the wrong thing to say. I'm still learning

lousubcap

@ColtsFan - we never stop being exposed to the learning process.  It just comes down to which of the processes you want to challenge and which you let slide.  Regardless, consider yourself wrong in any event.  
Judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from poor judgement.  FWIW-

Jstroke

SGH said:

Jstroke said:

Making chicken stock

It looks mighty fine my friend👍

Thank You Sir--she is getting there

frazzdaddy

JohnInCarolina said:

Battleborn said:

bucky925 said:

Battleborn said:

Doing Common Core math with my 2nd grader.  I understand the concept, but, the concept is stupid.  

I just asked my wife (30 years teaching 2nd grade) about Common Core math.  After a lengthy explanation that I didn't understand at all, she pretty much said it's just stupid. 

I can understand the fact that I think it is dumb because it is not how I was taught. They have these kids learning to subtract by adding and using a weird number line to show their work. 

 What you are probably describing is a concept called place value.  It's backed up by a good amount of pedagogical research.  Not stupid at all actually.  The fact is that the way most of us were taught math is what was stupid. 

Probably the simplest example of this is for me to ask you to add $0.99 five times.  Like 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99.  The way we were taught is to stack them all together and add the cents first, carry the tens, etc.  But that's actually slow.  The smart way is to add five dollars together, and then subtract a nickel, to arrive at $4.95.   

lol, I didn't know that was a thing. Been doing that for many years now and yes much faster!

nolaegghead

The common core math is what I figured out on my own how to do it.  Some parents don't like it because it's different, and they are in that crowd at the little league, and there are all kinds in that crowd. 

I think one of the problems with common core curriculum is how it's associated with the standardized testing, at a level that we make them functionally indistinguishable.  These were implemented together, and states opted in, most of them at least. Because so much focus is made on that testing, and at a very young age, much of the fun part of learning at ages where fun and learning need to be synonymous has been detrimental.  Let's just say every system can be improved.

But the attack on creating problem solving regarding math is a shame.  SHAME!

HeavyG

pgprescott said:

thetrim said:

Not much in the way of privacy there. 

It's part of a corporate retreat team building exercise.

bgebrent

nolaegghead said:

The common core math is what I figured out on my own how to do it.  Some parents don't like it because it's different, and they are in that crowd at the little league, and there are all kinds in that crowd. 

I think one of the problems with common core curriculum is how it's associated with the standardized testing, at a level that we make them functionally indistinguishable.  These were implemented together, and states opted in, most of them at least. Because so much focus is made on that testing, and at a very young age, much of the fun part of learning at ages where fun and learning need to be synonymous has been detrimental.  Let's just say every system can be improved.

But the attack on creating problem solving regarding math is a shame.  SHAME!

I played little league.

TN_Egger

bgebrent said:

nolaegghead said:

The common core math is what I figured out on my own how to do it.  Some parents don't like it because it's different, and they are in that crowd at the little league, and there are all kinds in that crowd. 

I think one of the problems with common core curriculum is how it's associated with the standardized testing, at a level that we make them functionally indistinguishable.  These were implemented together, and states opted in, most of them at least. Because so much focus is made on that testing, and at a very young age, much of the fun part of learning at ages where fun and learning need to be synonymous has been detrimental.  Let's just say every system can be improved.

But the attack on creating problem solving regarding math is a shame.  SHAME!

I played little league.

I coached little league.

pgprescott

HeavyG said:

pgprescott said:

thetrim said:

Not much in the way of privacy there. 

It's part of a corporate retreat team building exercise.

You are part of the team, RIGHT?

fishlessman

The smart way is to add five dollars together, and then subtract a nickel, to arrive at $4.95.   =  no teacher needed

Battleborn

While I may only hold a lowly undergrad degree from a state university in east Texas, I understand the place value that JIC so eloquently explained. It breaks the problem down to simplest form. I get it. This is one problem:

These are the steps to complete the problem. While effective, I don't see it as efficient. 

nolaegghead

21 plus 42 = 63.   fvckin efficient 

fishlessman

dont people use calculators any more, or, google a calculator, or just ask alexa

Battleborn

nolaegghead said:

21 plus 42 = 63.   fvckin efficient 

Correct. 21+42=63 is "fvckin efficient", if that was the problem. Add in the rest of the steps to the original problem, not "fvckin efficient." 
But then again what do I know about efficiency. 

nolaegghead

Battleborn said:

nolaegghead said:

21 plus 42 = 63.   fvckin efficient 

Correct. 21+42=63 is "fvckin efficient", if that was the problem. Add in the rest of the steps to the original problem, not "fvckin efficient." 
But then again what do I know about efficiency. 

everyone is different.  use the tool that is efficient to YOU.  

nolaegghead

ps I skip the other steps

HeavyG

I'm old enough to remember when it wasn't possible to learn how to speak/write proper English without having to diagram sentences.

They don't seem to teach that much these days (which I guess is why so many don't speak goodly nomore). Cuz we all know there really is only one way to educate our younguns their readin/ritin/rithmetic.

SaintJohnsEgger

JohnInCarolina said:

Battleborn said:

bucky925 said:

Battleborn said:

Doing Common Core math with my 2nd grader.  I understand the concept, but, the concept is stupid.  

I just asked my wife (30 years teaching 2nd grade) about Common Core math.  After a lengthy explanation that I didn't understand at all, she pretty much said it's just stupid. 

I can understand the fact that I think it is dumb because it is not how I was taught. They have these kids learning to subtract by adding and using a weird number line to show their work. 

 What you are probably describing is a concept called place value.  It's backed up by a good amount of pedagogical research.  Not stupid at all actually.  The fact is that the way most of us were taught math is what was stupid. 

Probably the simplest example of this is for me to ask you to add $0.99 five times.  Like 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99 + 0.99.  The way we were taught is to stack them all together and add the cents first, carry the tens, etc.  But that's actually slow.  The smart way is to add five dollars together, and then subtract a nickel, to arrive at $4.95.   

That's the way I've done math in my head for 50+ years. Just makes sense to me to round up then subtract back down.

nolaegghead

Someone posted this on our work's Slack channel.   If you are in IT, you will appreciate. 

thetrim

ColtsFan said:

ColtsFan said:

New reading material

I'm in trouble. Unboxed these yesterday and SWMBO saw them last night.

Her: What the hell. Did you buy those?
Me: Yup
Her: I bought those for you for Christmas. They're in my closet
Me: You shouldn't have deviated from the list I gave you

That was the wrong thing to say. I'm still learning

Enjoy the couch tonight, my friend!

northGAcock

bgebrent said:

nolaegghead said:

The common core math is what I figured out on my own how to do it.  Some parents don't like it because it's different, and they are in that crowd at the little league, and there are all kinds in that crowd. 

I think one of the problems with common core curriculum is how it's associated with the standardized testing, at a level that we make them functionally indistinguishable.  These were implemented together, and states opted in, most of them at least. Because so much focus is made on that testing, and at a very young age, much of the fun part of learning at ages where fun and learning need to be synonymous has been detrimental.  Let's just say every system can be improved.

But the attack on creating problem solving regarding math is a shame.  SHAME!

I played little league.

I knew it....they would’t Let Brent play with the big guys. Had to play down. Prolly where it all started......you know Nicole steppin in cooking cookin an all. 

bucky925

Watching Dook vs Texas Tech and trying hard not to like these four freshmen.  That says a lot from this Tarheel.  Thank goodness only @JohnInCarolina and @tarheelmatt know my real name. 

nolaegghead

Stardate 12202018.1845.03CST:  Driving home through a sea of aqueous precipitation,  drawn towards the planet with its 9.8m-sec^2 gravitational force.  A hooker dressed like a 1700s Alaskan eskimo, except with much less mass, waved towards my craft, despite the inclement environmental conditions.  Perhaps a native algerian.

nolaegghead

I kept my craft steady and drove onward to base.

SGH

I put a few Christmas decorations on my life long best friends grave who unfortunately passed away a few weeks ago. 

bgebrent

Sorry to hear that Scottie.  Condolences.