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YukonRon said:DoubleEgger said:Four pages of posts and nobody picked up on the fact that the OP's wife gave him cash for Valentines Day?
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Wow lots of fuss over the grills. My mini has been used way less since I've owned the MM. Use both but man that mini sits idle alot.Seattle, WA
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My wife calls me her mini...but anyways...I love my MM.
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@clikincaid at least she still acknowledges you.I raise my kids, cook and golf. When work gets in the way I'm pissed, I'm pissed off 48 weeks a year.Inbetween Iowa and Colorado, not close to anything remotely entertaining outside of football season.
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HeavyG said:Eggzellent said:HeavyG said:Eggzellent said:Jeepster47 said:@Eggzellent ... you've got to stop looking back at what you paid for something years ago. Two points:
1) If you include the nest, the MM has the same number of parts as the XL ... almost the same labor costs to produce them ... almost the same cost on the BGE truck to ship them. The only savings is a little on basic materials ... not much in the scheme of things.
2) Bought a Valentine's day card for my wife earlier this month. Told the gal at the counter that the card cost about what my marriage license cost. Stuff just plain costs more today than yesterday.
Cheers ...Eggzellent said:
"..If you can get the Conveggtor thrown in with the MM at what is a $100 list difference (without it) it seems to me that you are getting your money's worth for the price difference (YMMV).... like it a lot yet it's hard to believe what I paid for my XL (years ago) as compared with what the MM is going for now..which I will instantly forget the first time I fire it up."
Again, we aren't seeing to date (and I may have missed them) detailed side-by-side reviews of the MM/Jr. in terms of heat retention, ceramic quality. weight/mass or any other physical factor. I believe that the BGE is a superior product to the Jr. (save the size of the firebox) regardless. Do I believe that it is a $600 plus tax (w/o PS) value over the jr.?..probably not until those comparisons are reliably made. As far as equating the MM and XL to support an even near equal cost of raw materials, shipping or showroom cost/space between the two?..I understand the basic premise yet feel that the MM price reflects more of a "we can do it because we can" reality.
Thank you for your opinion as I'm a big fan of the "it just does" and the real world. I just wish that more physics-based side-by-side comparisons were made at the (basic) XL and MM level to put some of these comparisons to rest as even more designs/price points flood the market.
Brand loyalty? Just because it costs more? The color? Because it's made in Mexico and not China?
18% was worth $100 to me when my dealer threw in the PS and even more when someone (finally) comes on here and explains what !8% (also) really means in relation to materials and/or thermal mass as related to heat retention.
Mexico vs China vs US (even) means little to me anymore unless I know what the owner of any company will settle for...and there are a lot more 'settlers' around this country and elsewhere than ever before.
Not sure about your 18% weight difference. KJ Jr. = 68lbs vs BGE MM= 76lbs. I also have no idea (and couldn't care less) whether those published weights reflect the total weight in the cradle with all parts inside, the ceramic parts only, whatever.
The gaskets on KJ's do seem kind of thin which I'm guessing is the opposite of your "a thicker (heavier) gasket is a better gasket" school.
Don't really think the BGE gaskets are better tho. Everyone that I know that owns or has owned both BGE and KJ (myself included) think the KJ gaskets hold up better. Not really that important tho cuz they all need to be replaced eventually.
There is one thing about the KJ Jr. that is clearly far superior to the BGE MM - the handle. I hate that crappy little wooden grip on the MM.
Knowing that both gaskets will need to be replaced sooner than an aftermarket one will anyways?..I'll take the 'cushioned' (vs almost non-existant) one where two fragile pieces meet that you're trying not to smash. As for the handle, to each his own obviously..yet I'll take the natural look which matches what I'm cooking with and my house/surroundngs.
We can only hope that someone comes up here and puts this to rest as I do believe that one of these can realistically be declared 'better' than the others. It may not 'seemingly' cook any better or that fact might jerk some people's chains..but at $500-$600 and obviously more with accessories for what you get?..linking that argument would save a lot of time later and educate at the same time.
If I had a Joe Jr. right now? I'd feel just as blessed/thankful and could care less about whether I made the right choice. Last week was another story in terms of not seeing those thermal/material comparisons.
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HeavyG said:Ozzie_Isaac said:Chill folks. Be happy we have so many cool options out there. Good time to be into kamodos right now.
Apparently a MM weighing more is definitive for someone. That's cool - we all have our own decision matrix.
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reload said:YukonRon said:DoubleEgger said:Four pages of posts and nobody picked up on the fact that the OP's wife gave him cash for Valentines Day?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aQlhrrqTQmU
I have been called much worse, by many, however, none as fortunate as you.
Nickel's worth of free advise, and it took me a couple of times to figure it out, (which made me the true and ultimate ass, of which, I am hoping to be forgiven) when people make a comment on here at another's post, in fun, it is not intended as anything more. They like you, they were not trying to be an ass, mean to you or your wife. Or at least it was, in your case, by my comments.
Once you understand that, then the ass meter goes down for you and I and the collective "you" if so designated.
Anyway, I have enjoyed the thread, no harm was intended, and if you took it as such, I will assure you it truly was nothing personal, just stupid, likely drunken, attempt at humor.
I am sure you have a wonderful wife. My Beautiful Wife bought my MM for me for Father's Day. I have really enjoyed cooking with it home, tailgating, and while camping. (In fact we took the 90 pounder with us this weekend camping, worth all the trouble in logistics, guaranteed)
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I am already an ass, that is fat, drunk, slow and stupid (of which, are amongst my best features) adding to that list won't bother me. It won't harm My Beautiful Wife either, as we both laugh at ourselves more than at others anyway.
Onward."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
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Turned this little 4lber out today on the MMSeattle, WA
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@skinnyV post it in the competition thread! Brisket is main course and dessert in my book!They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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@SkinnyV Dude! That's amazing! Well done.Coleman, Texas
Large BGE & Mini Max for the wok. A few old camp Dutch ovens and a wood fired oven. LSG 24” cabinet offset smoker. There are a few paella pans and a Patagonia cross in the barn. A curing chamber for bacterial transformation of meats...
"Bourbon slushies. Sure you can cook on the BGE without them, but why would you?"
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@SkinnyV HELL YEAH!!!!
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LBGE,SBGE, and a Mini makes three......Sweet home Alabama........ Stay thirsty my friends .
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Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?
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Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?
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LBGE,SBGE, and a Mini makes three......Sweet home Alabama........ Stay thirsty my friends .
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Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?
This was important to me, especially helping out in the BGE forum."Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber
XL and MM
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Terrebandit said:Why did everone quote me?They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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@HeavyG I'm not sure what "small handle" your talking about, but my 2009 era LBGE has about 1/3 the handle of the MM, so I'm quite content with the MM.
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DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Dave - Austin, TX
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Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?
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Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?
They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin -
theyolksonyou said:Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
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bgebrent said:theyolksonyou said:Terrebandit said:DoubleEgger said:Terrebandit said:Will someone please quote me?Dave - Austin, TX
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I would be more inclined to tout the quality of Big Green Egg ceramics if I didn't find a huge crack in my base this weekend. .Which came first the chicken or the egg? I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg.
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SmokeyPitt: Sorry to hear that. MM base? How'd it happen (please) or did you just notice it?
SkinnyV: Could you please give some details as to how your MM was set up or any basic timing/temp. info? I would be very happy with that result and appreciate the pic.
Ozzie_Isaac: Any chance of asking for the same set-up info/temp. info on your MM thread?
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Well I pulled the trigger on a mini max. Should be here Friday my dealer ordered today should have it by Friday. It will compliment my XL beautifully
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Eggzellent said:SmokeyPitt: Sorry to hear that. MM base? How'd it happen (please) or did you just notice it?
SkinnyV: Could you please give some details as to how your MM was set up or any basic timing/temp. info? I would be very happy with that result and appreciate the pic.
Ozzie_Isaac: Any chance of asking for the same set-up info/temp. info on your MM thread?
Thanks.Which came first the chicken or the egg? I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg. -
@Eggzellent used the platesetter in the PS woo legs up. Temp was 250- 275degrees roughly 6 hours for 4 lb brisket.Seattle, WA
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SmokeyPitt: Thanks. I obviously need to check my XL as I never have. It is not an everyday cooker (or even weekly) and sits outside as well in a wide range of temps. I've cracked a CI grate and chalked it up to negligence(?) yet a bowl would make me believe (as well) that there's a reason nobody is (apparently) doing these ceramic comparisons side-by-side. If one retained heat better than the other and still broke just as easy..
SkinnyV: Just what I need to know (thanks).
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SmokeyPitt said:... I don't mean to sound negative but I just don't see any real evidence that BGE ceramic is superior to any others because they crack all the time under normal use.
Washington, IL > Queen Creek, AZ ... Two large eggs and an adopted Mini Max
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Jeepster47 said:SmokeyPitt said:... I don't mean to sound negative but I just don't see any real evidence that BGE ceramic is superior to any others because they crack all the time under normal use.
They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. - George Carlin
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