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When you've lost Jim Brewer....Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
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Also, why does Tuck-nut always look like he's questioning whether he just farted or sharted?Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
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I think that is just the default look for anyone who is an heir to the Swanson family fortune. It says "millions of dollars for TV dinners, really?"dmchicago said:Also, why does Tuck-nut always look like he's questioning whether he just farted or sharted?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike -
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JohnInCarolina said:
Then the guy starts a go-fund-me for his dead wife. Shortly after, someone else chimes in that he passed away from Covid. It's one thing to express your free-dumb by making your own choices, but who knows how much he contributed in his crusade to his many followers that it's a bad idea to get the vaccine and subsequently also died from it. Darwinism triumphs again, I guess.
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Philly - Kansas City - Houston - Cincinnati - Dallas - Houston - Memphis - Austin - Chicago - Austin
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It doesn't make sense to me that trying to get people vaccinated and saving lives (and money and long term health) is somehow a political attack from democrats. Seems to me that the GOP party seemed to jump on board popular sentiment from the constant pounding they're getting from their media sources. They have doubled down on it enough making it political is some kind of "deflection" on their collective poor decision that's built up inside the far right bubble. It's f*ckin health care, seems obvious, given the single statistic of unvaccinated people have 8-10 time higher (800-1000%) chance of getting seriously ill and dying or having long term syndrome that can be life-changing. Not to mention the vaccine is free and zero people have died from it. Or the money it costs, or lost work, or orphaned kids, or perpetuating mutations and furthering the length of the pandemic. How is doing the logical thing somehow a political attack? WTF people.I read this today and I it reads like an article from The Onion. My lerd, the world we live in:The denial of reality is breathtaking. This is nothing new, anthropomorphic climate change has been white washed as bad weather from natural causes. We should be in a cooling global climate, that's the natural cycle.I guess they're right about he natural causes if you consider homo sapiens just another organism on the planet and the changes we make are totally natural. We're just not smart enough to control ourselves, like other natural organisms.
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They said on the news today that most of the health insurance companies will not be paying for COVID hospitalizations anymore (with an average cost of $50K) for unvaccinated folks.While I’m glad about this, this is gonna bankrupt a lot of people. Not quite sure what to think…___________
"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
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Botch said:They said on the news today that most of the health insurance companies will not be paying for COVID hospitalizations anymore (with an average cost of $50K) for unvaccinated folks.While I’m glad about this, this is gonna bankrupt a lot of people. Not quite sure what to think…
they seem to be looking at every option not to pony up, not just covid. im seeing them cancel operations that were approved after the operation was done and actually going back seeking reimbursements for operations already paid for. simple meds doubling, tripling and more.
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If only there was a way to get around that sticky vaccination wicket...Botch said:They said on the news today that most of the health insurance companies will not be paying for COVID hospitalizations anymore (with an average cost of $50K) for unvaccinated folks.While I’m glad about this, this is gonna bankrupt a lot of people. Not quite sure what to think…
Having said that, there are some people (small though it may be) who should be excluded from vaccine requirements. I think it's also worth noting that many of the anti-vaccine folks are the same ones who supported GOP efforts to repeal the ACA and/or allow insurance companies to deny coverage for preexisting conditions. I think it's abhorrent in this country that people can lose their homes due to medical bills.Stillwater, MN -
Botch said:They said on the news today that most of the health insurance companies will not be paying for COVID hospitalizations anymore (with an average cost of $50K) for unvaccinated folks.While I’m glad about this, this is gonna bankrupt a lot of people. Not quite sure what to think…I think you must have read that wrong.They initially waived the co-payments for covid care because there was so much money in the pot (so little going out for other treatment). Now they are stopping that, maybe in some cases for unvaccinated people. The talk now is to add a surcharge for the unvaccinated's insurance premium of some amount - like $100-200/month. That will be very effective.Insurance is all about risk, and not being vaccinated dramatically increases risk. It's not preexisting anything (except maybe stupidity).That said, I agree with @StillH2OEgger
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There's a lot of chatter in the medical community about refusing treatment of the electively unvaccinated. Not for emergency care, but independent doctors or clinics doing elective stuff.Now that we've seen emergency protocols actually used in hospitals, I'm not sure how that figures, but I would guess being vaccinated or not won't have any impact. What will is the criteria for survival and QoL.______________________________________________I love lamp..
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What I had read earlier was that they were going back to their standard deductibles, copays etc. in other words there is deductible before they pay squat, then they pay 80%, when you reach a yearly max out of pocket they pay 100%. Of course if you are out of network you are screwed.Botch said:They said on the news today that most of the health insurance companies will not be paying for COVID hospitalizations anymore (with an average cost of $50K) for unvaccinated folks.While I’m glad about this, this is gonna bankrupt a lot of people. Not quite sure what to think…If they imposed this on the unvaccinated I would be fine. I would also be fine if they enacted a $200 or so charge per month for each unvaccinated person on each policy. -
Here's the surcharge Delta Airlines has put in place:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/benefits/pages/delta-air-lines-charges-unvaccinated-workers-premium-surcharge.aspx
Makes sense to me. I can't get past my simple assessment: Roulette: Issues with the vaccine due to potential side effects or play with hospitalization and possible death. Too easy...Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period. -
Interesting article about the many people and discoveries that brought us the mRNA vaccines...
The tangled history of mRNA vaccines
Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough.
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lousubcap said:Here's the surcharge Delta Airlines has put in place:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/benefits/pages/delta-air-lines-charges-unvaccinated-workers-premium-surcharge.aspx
Makes sense to me. I can't get past my simple assessment: Roulette: Issues with the vaccine due to potential side effects or play with hospitalization and possible death. Too easy...
not sure i like this booster shot idea floating around now. the dvt in my leg started a few weeks after the first shot, it doubled down on me a few weeks after the second shot. coming up on 5 months now and talking with several doctors none are sure it was or wasnt a side effect from the vaccine. another ultrasound tomorrow, then more blood work and another visit to a hematologist. just now able to wear boots again. not thrilled with the idea of a booster shot down the road. google says im good to go but not the doctors so far
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Trust your sound medical white coats. Sorry to read that @fishlessman. Clearly individual situations are not addressed in the broad brush approach.Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win. Life is too short for light/lite beer! Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
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lousubcap said:Trust your sound medical white coats. Sorry to read that @fishlessman. Clearly individual situations are not addressed in the broad brush approach.
thats the thing though, they dont really seem to know. i took the moderna shot and it looks to be holding up better than the others, it might not be a decision that i have to make down the road. we shall wait and see. my doctor is out on maternity leave right now, didnt get the vaccine, sure she has better answers for when she gets back. she still has the decision to make for herself. ill start pestering her in another month or two, doctors must hate patient portals online
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dbCooper said:Interesting article about the many people and discoveries that brought us the mRNA vaccines...
The tangled history of mRNA vaccines
Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough.https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
Thanks for posting that. @Ryantt mentioned the long history during our last zoom call, I never did follow up on it.
Question (and I'm weak in biology/chemistry): is the "protein" that a cell develops once the mRNA gets in, equivalent to the "antibodies" that I hear about in such discussions?___________"When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set."
- Lin Yutang
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fishlessman said:lousubcap said:Here's the surcharge Delta Airlines has put in place:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/benefits/pages/delta-air-lines-charges-unvaccinated-workers-premium-surcharge.aspx
Makes sense to me. I can't get past my simple assessment: Roulette: Issues with the vaccine due to potential side effects or play with hospitalization and possible death. Too easy...
not sure i like this booster shot idea floating around now. the dvt in my leg started a few weeks after the first shot, it doubled down on me a few weeks after the second shot. coming up on 5 months now and talking with several doctors none are sure it was or wasnt a side effect from the vaccine. another ultrasound tomorrow, then more blood work and another visit to a hematologist. just now able to wear boots again. not thrilled with the idea of a booster shot down the road. google says im good to go but not the doctors so far
well thats a little relief, clots just in the thigh now, no longer the whole leg
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Took advantage of access to some inside info and just got the Pfizer booster. Never met a shot I didn't like. The euphoria was great but an order of magnitude below watching the first shot of juice go in.
When you can get it...DO!
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Short of pulling a "Drugstore Cowboy" move and breaking into a pharmacy to get a booster, I'll be first in line when my time comes.lousubcap said:Took advantage of access to some inside info and just got the Pfizer booster. Never met a shot I didn't like. The euphoria was great but an order of magnitude below watching the first shot of juice go in.
When you can get it...DO!
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We’ll see. I had Moderna back in April and Moderna seems to be lasting better than Pfizer. I might wait until I see if they are going to have a booster modified for the new variants. Moderna’s booster hasn’t been approved yet and the fed docs want us to stick to the same make as our first one.
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