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Is Butter a condiment?

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Ozzie_Isaac
Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,045
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Watching burger scholars on Youtube.  George Motz called butter a condiment.  Do you agree?  After much thought, I think it is.
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  • Photo Egg
    Photo Egg Posts: 12,110
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    IMO, butter is like Voka and Gin. Most people think it’s all the same until they have a chance to compare it a quality product where it shines.
    Thank you,
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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    A mother distillate in food terms is suggestive of an entree or plat.  

    Butter is a fat used for cooking, infrequently a condiment for bread, esp freshly baked.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
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    Photo Egg said:
    IMO, butter is like Voka and Gin. Most people think it’s all the same until they have a chance to compare it a quality product where it shines.
    I used to pocket the butter packets from breakfasts.  Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.

    nolaegghead said:
    A mother distillate in food terms is suggestive of an entree or plat.  

    Butter is a fat used for cooking, infrequently a condiment for bread, esp freshly baked.
    Toasted banana bread with butter is my favorite.
    A bison’s level of aggressiveness, both physical and passive, is legendary. - NPS
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,348
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_condiments

    says it is so that is good enough for me.
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  • saluki2007
    saluki2007 Posts: 6,354
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    Is olive oil a condiment?  If you think so, then one would think butter is. 
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  • billt01
    billt01 Posts: 1,528
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    to add good REAL butter isn't land-o-lakes
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,754
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    the butter isle has exploded with higher end butter choices since this covid started, lots of smaller local farms making butter. lots of choices from vermont
    fukahwee maine

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  • Canugghead
    Canugghead Posts: 11,518
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    Try smoked butter on crackers, thank me later 😀
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,045
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    I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.
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  • nolaegghead
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.
    Correct:



    Incorrect:

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  • Carolina Q
    Carolina Q Posts: 14,831
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.
    It is easy. Works better/faster if you let the cream warm up rather than cold from the fridge. 60° should do it.

    I hate it when I go to the kitchen for food and all I find are ingredients!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

    Michael 
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  • RRP
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
      Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.


    I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
    https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true
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  • northGAcock
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    Depends on how it is being used. 
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  • fishlessman
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    northGAcock said:
    Depends on how it is being used. 

    landolakes for things it doesnt matter, good butter for finishing, spreading etc
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
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    northGAcock said:
    Depends on how it is being used. 
    So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?

    If you dip your ketchup covered meat loaf into a puddle of ketchup does it become a condiment?
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  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 32,754
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    lkapigian said:
    I think it is....Thai Chili Roasted Garlic Butter  =)



    garlic roasted, thai chillis roasted?  any other ingrediants, i could see adding a little honey for certain things
    fukahwee maine

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  • JohnInCarolina
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  • lkapigian
    lkapigian Posts: 10,761
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    fishlessman said:
    lkapigian said:
    I think it is....Thai Chili Roasted Garlic Butter  =)



    garlic roasted, thai chillis roasted?  any other ingrediants, i could see adding a little honey for certain things
    Just the garlic was roasted ,mixed garlic and chili in a molcajete theninto room temp salted butter....
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 15,471
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    northGAcock said:
    Depends on how it is being used. 
    So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?
    Here, its frosting.  
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  • MO_Eggin
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    RRP said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
      Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.


    I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
    https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true
    Kerrigold is second to our household favorite Plugra, which has been really hard to find since the Covid.
    LBGE - St. Louis, MO; MM & LBGE - around 8100' somewhere in the CO Front Range
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,045
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    MO_Eggin said:
    RRP said:
    Ozzie_Isaac said:
      Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.


    I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
    https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true
    Kerrigold is second to our household favorite Plugra, which has been really hard to find since the Covid.
    Hmm, need to keep my eye out for Plugra.  I am not familiar with it.


    Edit, OMG!  Be still be heart.


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  • caliking
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    fishlessman said:
    northGAcock said:
    Depends on how it is being used. 

    landolakes for things it doesnt matter, good butter for finishing, spreading etc
    I like American-style butter (good ol' LO'L)  for baking certain things (biscuits, brioche rolls) because of the extra water in it. Helps with oven spring.

    Kerrygold for toast, eggs, etc. where the taste/flavor matters, mostly because it is readily available vs. other European-style butters.


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  • HeavyG
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    Ozzie_Isaac said:
    northGAcock said:
    Depends on how it is being used. 
    So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?

    If you dip your ketchup covered meat loaf into a puddle of ketchup does it become a condiment?
    Asking the real questions.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




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  • TEXASBGE2018
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    My thoughts are not in and of itself. But if used as a spread or as a dip sure why not.


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  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,102
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    Face it: a condiment is using a specific food in the context of a table serving side option to add to other food.  Any condiment can be used as an ingredient in cooking.  Also, who cares?
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 19,045
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    nolaegghead said:
    Face it: a condiment is using a specific food in the context of a table serving side option to add to other food.  Any condiment can be used as an ingredient in cooking.  Also, who cares?
    Who cares!?  Who cares!?  These types of questions keep me up at night. (Plus condiments do not add calories).

    Is a garnish a condiment then?  Or is a condiment a garnish?

    I am extremely offended that you do not validate my concerns.  You sir, are not nice.


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  • nolaegghead
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    Ok, sorry to hurt your feelings.  It's probably more important than America falling into authoritarian rule, where elections don't count.
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  • Ozzie_Isaac
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    nolaegghead said:
    Ok, sorry to hurt your feelings.  It's probably more important than America falling into authoritarian rule, where elections don't count.
    Oh, no that is hugely important and the rhetoric is straight up scary.  I suspect it will get worse before it gets better.

    However, I cannot do anything about that because I am heavily restricted in travel and gatherings due to COVID-19.

    Plus, this is a BBQ forum, and life and other questions still go on.
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  • SciAggie
    SciAggie Posts: 6,481
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    @nolaegghead C'mon my friend - git yer priorities straight...
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