Is Butter a condiment?

Ozzie_Isaac

Watching burger scholars on Youtube.  George Motz called butter a condiment.  Do you agree?  After much thought, I think it is.

Photo Egg

IMO, butter is like Voka and Gin. Most people think it’s all the same until they have a chance to compare it a quality product where it shines.

nolaegghead

A mother distillate in food terms is suggestive of an entree or plat.  

Butter is a fat used for cooking, infrequently a condiment for bread, esp freshly baked.

Ozzie_Isaac

Photo Egg said:

IMO, butter is like Voka and Gin. Most people think it’s all the same until they have a chance to compare it a quality product where it shines.

I used to pocket the butter packets from breakfasts.  Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.

nolaegghead said:

A mother distillate in food terms is suggestive of an entree or plat.  

Butter is a fat used for cooking, infrequently a condiment for bread, esp freshly baked.

Toasted banana bread with butter is my favorite.

HeavyG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_condiments

says it is so that is good enough for me.

saluki2007

Is olive oil a condiment?  If you think so, then one would think butter is. 

billt01

to add good REAL butter isn't land-o-lakes

fishlessman

the butter isle has exploded with higher end butter choices since this covid started, lots of smaller local farms making butter. lots of choices from vermont

lkapigian

I think it is....Thai Chili Roasted Garlic Butter 

Canugghead

Try smoked butter on crackers, thank me later 😀

Ozzie_Isaac

I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.

nolaegghead

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.

Correct:



Incorrect:

Carolina Q

Ozzie_Isaac said:

I have a bunch of heavy cream on hand.  I might just try making some butter.  YouTube makes it look easy.

It is easy. Works better/faster if you let the cream warm up rather than cold from the fridge. 60° should do it.

RRP

Ozzie_Isaac said:

  Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.

I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true

northGAcock

Depends on how it is being used. 

fishlessman

northGAcock said:

Depends on how it is being used. 

landolakes for things it doesnt matter, good butter for finishing, spreading etc

Ozzie_Isaac

northGAcock said:

Depends on how it is being used. 

So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?

If you dip your ketchup covered meat loaf into a puddle of ketchup does it become a condiment?

fishlessman

lkapigian said:

I think it is....Thai Chili Roasted Garlic Butter 

garlic roasted, thai chillis roasted?  any other ingrediants, i could see adding a little honey for certain things

JohnInCarolina

lkapigian

fishlessman said:

lkapigian said:

I think it is....Thai Chili Roasted Garlic Butter 

garlic roasted, thai chillis roasted?  any other ingrediants, i could see adding a little honey for certain things

Just the garlic was roasted ,mixed garlic and chili in a molcajete theninto room temp salted butter....

Botch

Ozzie_Isaac said:

northGAcock said:

Depends on how it is being used. 

So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?

Here, its frosting.  

MO_Eggin

RRP said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

  Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.

I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true

Kerrigold is second to our household favorite Plugra, which has been really hard to find since the Covid.

Ozzie_Isaac

MO_Eggin said:

RRP said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

  Now I prefer Kerigold.  There is a definite quality difference.  You are correct, until your eyes or taste buds have been opened, you do not realize the quality difference.

I agree! Kerigold OR nothing else! Also kept on the counter in a butter bell!
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/s/*:*/fl_butter-bell/store-1?localStore=true&icid=hp_homepage_2st0_2st1_im_store_20055&view=GRID&removeInStock=true

Kerrigold is second to our household favorite Plugra, which has been really hard to find since the Covid.

Hmm, need to keep my eye out for Plugra.  I am not familiar with it.


Edit, OMG!  Be still be heart.

caliking

fishlessman said:

northGAcock said:

Depends on how it is being used. 

landolakes for things it doesnt matter, good butter for finishing, spreading etc

I like American-style butter (good ol' LO'L)  for baking certain things (biscuits, brioche rolls) because of the extra water in it. Helps with oven spring.

Kerrygold for toast, eggs, etc. where the taste/flavor matters, mostly because it is readily available vs. other European-style butters.

HeavyG

Ozzie_Isaac said:

northGAcock said:

Depends on how it is being used. 

So would ketchup/catsup on top of a meat loaf no longer be a condiment?

If you dip your ketchup covered meat loaf into a puddle of ketchup does it become a condiment?

Asking the real questions.

TEXASBGE2018

My thoughts are not in and of itself. But if used as a spread or as a dip sure why not.

nolaegghead

Face it: a condiment is using a specific food in the context of a table serving side option to add to other food.  Any condiment can be used as an ingredient in cooking.  Also, who cares?

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

Face it: a condiment is using a specific food in the context of a table serving side option to add to other food.  Any condiment can be used as an ingredient in cooking.  Also, who cares?

Who cares!?  Who cares!?  These types of questions keep me up at night. (Plus condiments do not add calories).

Is a garnish a condiment then?  Or is a condiment a garnish?

I am extremely offended that you do not validate my concerns.  You sir, are not nice.

nolaegghead

Ok, sorry to hurt your feelings.  It's probably more important than America falling into authoritarian rule, where elections don't count.

Ozzie_Isaac

nolaegghead said:

Ok, sorry to hurt your feelings.  It's probably more important than America falling into authoritarian rule, where elections don't count.

Oh, no that is hugely important and the rhetoric is straight up scary.  I suspect it will get worse before it gets better.

However, I cannot do anything about that because I am heavily restricted in travel and gatherings due to COVID-19.

Plus, this is a BBQ forum, and life and other questions still go on.

SciAggie

@nolaegghead C'mon my friend - git yer priorities straight...