OT: My Kid's School Just Closed Due to Coronavirus

Hoster05 · March 2020

GATraveller said:

Hoster05 said:

one fact I have not come across yet, maybe because I haven't looked hard enough. Is in the people who have died from this, what percentage of them have a co-morbid ailment or condition that has already weakened their immune system? Those who are healthy seem to be surviving just like the flu virus. Just looking for the facts.

40% (132 million) of Americans are obese, 14% (38 million) smoke and close to 10% are diabetic (34.2 million). This doesn't include the 15% (50 million) that are elderly. I would say those are significant co-morbid ailments and conditions.

so is this virus killing people with co-morbid ailments or completely healthy people too?

Does the flu kill completely healthy people or does is prominently kill people with co-morbid ailments?

REB17 · March 2020

DoubleEgger said:

Ban on all incoming passengers and cargo from Europe. Saddle up folks, we’re in for a ride.

Does that mean the Masters will be cancelled?

Legume · March 2020

GATraveller said:

Legume said:

GATraveller said:

Rollout of testing in US has been very slow compared to many countries. You can’t count what you can’t test and confirm. I don’t think we have any real idea of what the number of cases in US is at this point. Country to country comparisons don’t really matter.

My point in showing this comparison is because we are basically on the same trajectory as Italy yet many still discount the severity of the situation.

Totally agree with you then. I mistook your message to be akin to the prez address last night - basically Europe f’d up and we’re going to do it right.

Lit · March 2020

YukonRon said:

@Matt86m

"Its the flu. 58,000 people die of the flu and pneumonia each year in the US. This is being hyped by the dems to make Trump look bad before the election. If Biden or Bernnie get in how fast will all this go away?"

Winning comment. Totally.

Here is the Answer:
Much faster than Trump could ever do it.

The Democrats have no need to to make Trump seem like an imbecile, he is doing a masterful job of this on his own. this may be the final straw for many.

We have known this virus was NOT contained in China since the first week of the New Year. Yet the president chose to do nothing.

To categorize this pandemic as the typical type influenza that evolves every "cold and flu season" which an appreciable portion of the population is inoculated against, with a .1% mortality rate...... is, at best, a very uninformed statement.

So far, based on the numbers from The WHO, the corona virus has a mortality rate that may go higher than its current .36% (Most are saying globally as high as 4.0%). It is likely to do so, since there is no vaccine available and the virus can mutate as it spreads to other highly populated areas with limited resources for medical care.

Since the global notification back in January, and the President doing nothing, the stock market has crashed, we are heading into a recession, the virus continues to spread exponentially across America every single day, and Americans are dying because of it.

Democratic hype of grave danger? If it is, and it shames the president to do something other than, of course, blame the democrats, we all should be thankful.

Wash your hands, do not touch your face, and stay away from people. That is all we have. The travel ban is only about 2 and a half months too late.

There is nothing anyone could have done to prevent this. Maybe they could have delayed it a little but this crap has been here since December it just took time to blow up.

bicktrav · March 2020

YukonRon said:

@Matt86m

"Its the flu. 58,000 people die of the flu and pneumonia each year in the US. This is being hyped by the dems to make Trump look bad before the election. If Biden or Bernnie get in how fast will all this go away?"

Winning comment. Totally.

Here is the Answer:
Much faster than Trump could ever do it.

The Democrats have no need to to make Trump seem like an imbecile, he is doing a masterful job of this on his own. this may be the final straw for many.

We have known this virus was NOT contained in China since the first week of the New Year. Yet the president chose to do nothing.

To categorize this pandemic as the typical type influenza that evolves every "cold and flu season" which an appreciable portion of the population is inoculated against, with a .1% mortality rate...... is, at best, a very uninformed statement.

So far, based on the numbers from The WHO, the corona virus has a mortality rate that may go higher than its current .36% (Most are saying globally as high as 4.0%). It is likely to do so, since there is no vaccine available and the virus can mutate as it spreads to other highly populated areas with limited resources for medical care.

Since the global notification back in January, and the President doing nothing, the stock market has crashed, we are heading into a recession, the virus continues to spread exponentially across America every single day, and Americans are dying because of it.

Democratic hype of grave danger? If it is, and it shames the president to do something other than, of course, blame the democrats, we all should be thankful.

Wash your hands, do not touch your face, and stay away from people. That is all we have. The travel ban is only about 2 and a half months too late.

I agree. Comparisons to the flu are absurd. This is not the flu--not in symptoms or mortality rate. As for travel bans, I don't have a problem with them, but they will do pretty much nothing. The disease is here. I know of several cases in my area, with more popping up every day.

What we need is testing and social distancing. Right now, we have the second-lowest testing rates of any country in the world. Republicans and Democrats should both be able to strip off their political uniforms for a moment and agree--that is flat-out unforgivable.

That said, I do think we should try to hang on to some amount of calm here. The death rate is likely not as high as the WHO suggests. South Korea did an amazing job testing their population (and, therefore, catching many of the cases that were less severe), and their death rate comes out to .7 percent. That ought to give us some comfort.

caliking · March 2020

Hoster05 said:

GATraveller said:

Hoster05 said:

one fact I have not come across yet, maybe because I haven't looked hard enough. Is in the people who have died from this, what percentage of them have a co-morbid ailment or condition that has already weakened their immune system? Those who are healthy seem to be surviving just like the flu virus. Just looking for the facts.

40% (132 million) of Americans are obese, 14% (38 million) smoke and close to 10% are diabetic (34.2 million). This doesn't include the 15% (50 million) that are elderly. I would say those are significant co-morbid ailments and conditions.

so is this virus killing people with co-morbid ailments or completely healthy people too?

Does the flu kill completely healthy people or does is prominently kill people with co-morbid ailments?

Yes and yes. Comorbidities significantly increase the risk of serious illness, which significantly increases the risk in the elderly.

This coronavirus is far more virulent than influenza, which greatly impacts its spread and people becoming infected.

ColtsFan · March 2020

IU's VPN servers can't handle all the extra traffic from them encouraging telecommuting. Took the servers to their knees...

Abort Mission

nolaegghead · March 2020

caliking said:

Hoster05 said:

GATraveller said:

Hoster05 said:

one fact I have not come across yet, maybe because I haven't looked hard enough. Is in the people who have died from this, what percentage of them have a co-morbid ailment or condition that has already weakened their immune system? Those who are healthy seem to be surviving just like the flu virus. Just looking for the facts.

40% (132 million) of Americans are obese, 14% (38 million) smoke and close to 10% are diabetic (34.2 million). This doesn't include the 15% (50 million) that are elderly. I would say those are significant co-morbid ailments and conditions.

so is this virus killing people with co-morbid ailments or completely healthy people too?

Does the flu kill completely healthy people or does is prominently kill people with co-morbid ailments?

Yes and yes. Comorbidities significantly increase the risk of serious illness, which significantly increases the risk in the elderly.

This coronavirus is far more virulent than influenza, which greatly impacts its spread and people becoming infected.

....and the R0 transmission rate is much higher than the flu. Fortunately not as high as measles, thankfully.

Gulfcoastguy · March 2020

I seem to recall the president wanted various travel bans. They were all shot dead in the House. With modern air travel by the time you are aware of a plague it has spread at about 300 miles per hour. I have really expected some sort of plague much sooner.
Btw my niece is currently on assignment in Europe.

DoubleEgger · March 2020

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

Lit · March 2020

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

Botch · March 2020

FarmingPhD said:

All Iowa state university institutions implementing a minimum 2 week online classes post spring break next week. Started prepping material today try and teach a heavily hands on class in an online fashion.

I hadn't made the connection that you taught at ISU. I was in the Aerospace Engineering program from '78 to '80.

DoubleEgger · March 2020

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

Gulfcoastguy · March 2020

My parents stocked up last week. They have a bundle of tp on the back porch so big it looks like a bale of cotton. Cases of various foods. They also listened when I told them to make sure all of their prescriptions were filled, the last place you want to be is waiting in line at a pharmacy.

Lit · March 2020

DoubleEgger said:

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

I had to get an inhaler and mask for my boy so I had to go to the pharmacy. Decided to get cherries and sugar while I was waiting. It’s a scary place to go right now for sure.

Eoin · March 2020

We have 10 deaths in the UK now, all elderly and with other conditions. Testing is being stepped up. Cases are still <1000 but rising. My train ride to London today was nice, not many people about!

bicktrav · March 2020

Lit said:

YukonRon said:

@Matt86m

"Its the flu. 58,000 people die of the flu and pneumonia each year in the US. This is being hyped by the dems to make Trump look bad before the election. If Biden or Bernnie get in how fast will all this go away?"

Winning comment. Totally.

Here is the Answer:
Much faster than Trump could ever do it.

The Democrats have no need to to make Trump seem like an imbecile, he is doing a masterful job of this on his own. this may be the final straw for many.

We have known this virus was NOT contained in China since the first week of the New Year. Yet the president chose to do nothing.

To categorize this pandemic as the typical type influenza that evolves every "cold and flu season" which an appreciable portion of the population is inoculated against, with a .1% mortality rate...... is, at best, a very uninformed statement.

So far, based on the numbers from The WHO, the corona virus has a mortality rate that may go higher than its current .36% (Most are saying globally as high as 4.0%). It is likely to do so, since there is no vaccine available and the virus can mutate as it spreads to other highly populated areas with limited resources for medical care.

Since the global notification back in January, and the President doing nothing, the stock market has crashed, we are heading into a recession, the virus continues to spread exponentially across America every single day, and Americans are dying because of it.

Democratic hype of grave danger? If it is, and it shames the president to do something other than, of course, blame the democrats, we all should be thankful.

Wash your hands, do not touch your face, and stay away from people. That is all we have. The travel ban is only about 2 and a half months too late.

There is nothing anyone could have done to prevent this. Maybe they could have delayed it a little but this crap has been here since December it just took time to blow up.

You're correct that the spread of the disease was inevitable. But there were absolutely things we could have done to prepare for its arrival, chief among them getting ready for testing. As I said in an earlier post, our testing rate is the second-lowest in the world (France barely beats us). That is patently indefensible. It should outrage Republicans and Democrats alike. Without testing, people don't know they have it. They head to work; they sneeze on countertops; they spread the disease aggressively and obliviously.

alaskanassasin · March 2020

I will echo get your prescriptions filled

alaskanassasin · March 2020

Also for all you preppers, don't forget dog food, cat food

northGAcock · March 2020

You are all missing the point. Its those d@mn woodchucks chucking your wood that is the cause of all this.

Eoin · March 2020

bicktrav said:

Lit said:

YukonRon said:

@Matt86m

"Its the flu. 58,000 people die of the flu and pneumonia each year in the US. This is being hyped by the dems to make Trump look bad before the election. If Biden or Bernnie get in how fast will all this go away?"

Winning comment. Totally.

Here is the Answer:
Much faster than Trump could ever do it.

The Democrats have no need to to make Trump seem like an imbecile, he is doing a masterful job of this on his own. this may be the final straw for many.

We have known this virus was NOT contained in China since the first week of the New Year. Yet the president chose to do nothing.

To categorize this pandemic as the typical type influenza that evolves every "cold and flu season" which an appreciable portion of the population is inoculated against, with a .1% mortality rate...... is, at best, a very uninformed statement.

So far, based on the numbers from The WHO, the corona virus has a mortality rate that may go higher than its current .36% (Most are saying globally as high as 4.0%). It is likely to do so, since there is no vaccine available and the virus can mutate as it spreads to other highly populated areas with limited resources for medical care.

Since the global notification back in January, and the President doing nothing, the stock market has crashed, we are heading into a recession, the virus continues to spread exponentially across America every single day, and Americans are dying because of it.

Democratic hype of grave danger? If it is, and it shames the president to do something other than, of course, blame the democrats, we all should be thankful.

Wash your hands, do not touch your face, and stay away from people. That is all we have. The travel ban is only about 2 and a half months too late.

There is nothing anyone could have done to prevent this. Maybe they could have delayed it a little but this crap has been here since December it just took time to blow up.

You're correct that the spread of the disease was inevitable. But there were absolutely things we could have done to prepare for its arrival, chief among them getting ready for testing. As I said in an earlier post, our testing rate is the second-lowest in the world (France barely beats us). That is patently indefensible. It should outrage Republicans and Democrats alike. Without testing, people don't know they have it. They head to work; they sneeze on countertops; they spread the disease aggressively and obliviously.

The politicians here quickly realised this is a political no win situation and put the experts at the front of the public information / decision making. Boris doesn't say much, he sits and lets the experts speak. Facts matter, opinions not so much.

dbCooper · March 2020

Costco Online had these for $200. last month, we purchased one. Nothing to do with Covad or TP worries, more so that FIL remodeled his bathroom last year and installed a Toto Toilet. Better half has been aching for one ever since. 3+ weeks in with usage and I still feel just a little less manly when I push the remote button, but I do really like it.

https://www.amazon.com/BioBidet-USPA-Adjustable-Wireless-Elongated/dp/B007HIKR7O

Botch · March 2020

Catching up on the CBS Morning News right now. The UT Jazz center was being interviewed after a game a few days ago, and poo-poo'd the idea of it, and as he was leaving he pointedly rubbed his hands all over the mics and the table.

Now, he's the first NBA player to be confirmed with the virus. Jackass.

HendersonTRKing · March 2020

bicktrav said:

Just read that Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson tested positive for it.

Tom Hanks survived on that deserted island for how long? He'll survive this.

Looking forward to the contrast between POTUS's oval office speech last night (like a drugged up hostage forced to read words given to him by his captors, and even then being WRONG on the 3 things he said his government will be doing) and what Joe Biden has to say about the crisis. Time for OUR government to get back to solving problems instead of exacerbating them through naked self-interest, lies and incompetence.

To quote another commenter, "There, I said it."

saluki2007 · March 2020

caliking · March 2020

DoubleEgger said:

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

I’m not so worried about the run on TP. Maybe about some other staples.

I grew up, as many people in many countries/cultures, washing my ass with water and a hand down there. So I’ve got a backup plan

Lit · March 2020

caliking said:

DoubleEgger said:

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

I’m not so worried about the run on TP. Maybe about some other staples.

I grew up, as many people in many countries/cultures, washing my ass with water and a hand down there. So I’ve got a backup plan

This hits close to home since all our integration people are Indian. I don’t care what they do in there but they leave their water cups in the stalls and there is always crap on the back part of the seat. It’s so gross.

HendersonTRKing · March 2020

caliking said:

DoubleEgger said:

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

I’m not so worried about the run on TP. Maybe about some other staples.

I grew up, as many people in many countries/cultures, washing my ass with water and a hand down there. So I’ve got a backup plan

2 words: Toto Washlet. Right up there with the best purchases (investments!) I've ever made. While I haven't calculated the precise ROI based on reduced TP consumption, I'm sure I'm well into the bonus at this point.

https://www.totousa.com/washlet-a100-elongated

DoubleEgger · March 2020

HendersonTRKing said:

caliking said:

DoubleEgger said:

Lit said:

DoubleEgger said:

The paper goods aisle at Walmart this morning. So bare they could paint the shelving. Folks that sat back and chastised others for stocking up can enjoy wiping their ass with leaves. Watch out for poison ivy 😉

They had some toilet paper last night but not much. The cherries are like 2 aisles down if you need any.

One of my phobias is running out of toilet paper. This is standard for our household of two pre virus.

Also, I hate Walmart so I try to minimize the number of trips I have to make there.

I’m not so worried about the run on TP. Maybe about some other staples.

I grew up, as many people in many countries/cultures, washing my ass with water and a hand down there. So I’ve got a backup plan

2 words: Toto Washlet. Right up there with the best purchases (investments!) I've ever made. While I haven't calculated the precise ROI based on reduced TP consumption, I'm sure I'm well into the bonus at this point.

https://www.totousa.com/washlet-a100-elongated

Or go outside and use a garden gose. Lol.

The Cen-Tex Smoker · March 2020

YukonRon said:

@Matt86m

"Its the flu. 58,000 people die of the flu and pneumonia each year in the US. This is being hyped by the dems to make Trump look bad before the election. If Biden or Bernnie get in how fast will all this go away?"

Winning comment. Totally.

Here is the Answer:
Much faster than Trump could ever do it.

The Democrats have no need to to make Trump seem like an imbecile, he is doing a masterful job of this on his own. this may be the final straw for many.

We have known this virus was NOT contained in China since the first week of the New Year. Yet the president chose to do nothing.

To categorize this pandemic as the typical type influenza that evolves every "cold and flu season" which an appreciable portion of the population is inoculated against, with a .1% mortality rate...... is, at best, a very uninformed statement.

So far, based on the numbers from The WHO, the corona virus has a mortality rate that may go higher than its current .36% (Most are saying globally as high as 4.0%). It is likely to do so, since there is no vaccine available and the virus can mutate as it spreads to other highly populated areas with limited resources for medical care.

Since the global notification back in January, and the President doing nothing, the stock market has crashed, we are heading into a recession, the virus continues to spread exponentially across America every single day, and Americans are dying because of it.

Democratic hype of grave danger? If it is, and it shames the president to do something other than, of course, blame the democrats, we all should be thankful.

Wash your hands, do not touch your face, and stay away from people. That is all we have. The travel ban is only about 2 and a half months too late.

I hit you with “off topic” for the flag bingo.

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