GA-AL Redux

JohnInCarolina said:

What is odd is the total number of games actually played.

Well, that's kind of a requirement.

Eggdicted_Dawgfan said:

Most of them are getting paid through scholarships. I wouldn’t mind them getting paid a little pocket change as well but my concern is once you open that door there will be no end.

A scholarship isn’t worth much these days as compared to pre lotto days. Anyone can get an in state lotto funded scholarship with decent (not great) grades. You’ve got strength coaches making $500k and there’s no money to pay these kids? 

DoubleEgger said:

Eggdicted_Dawgfan said:

Most of them are getting paid through scholarships. I wouldn’t mind them getting paid a little pocket change as well but my concern is once you open that door there will be no end.

A scholarship isn’t worth much these days as compared to pre lotto days. Anyone can get an in state lotto funded scholarship with decent (not great) grades. You’ve got strength coaches making $500k and there’s no money to pay these kids? 

The one sickening thing about CFB is how much money it brings in, yet the kids don't see a dime. I.e. Todd Gurley gets suspended for selling HIS autograph. Yet others are making money hand over fist. 

I read one article arguing schools should put money in a long term scholarship fund if they want to continue education down the road, or have medical issues, etc. 

I went to a service academy, and we weren't allowed to work, and also had a pretty busy schedule with school, athletics and military stuff. So they paid us a stipend, on top of room, board, food, education. It was nice to have some money to do something other than sit in the dorms. 

I wonder if NCAA could ever do something similar; attach a capped amount per month, per scholarship. I think the main downside is what about sports that don't bring in money (men's wrestling, women's water polo, etc etc). That could add up really quick--especially for schools that don't make hundreds of millions from football. 

Appalachian State beat Michigan in 2007.

It’s all a pretty big scam.  Hard for me to see what finally breaks it down.

bgebrent said:

JohnInCarolina said:

It’s all a pretty big scam.  Hard for me to see what finally breaks it down.

It’s why Duke gets the easy road every f’ing time. 

It's all the fault of the teaching staff. Especially post grad.

DoubleEgger said:

I’m waiting for CTE to get into college athletics. It wasn’t just the NFL hits that cause brain damage yet they are taking the full brunt. 

That for sure is coming.  Whether or not it ends up making a real difference remains to be seen.  Lot of athletes and families will still choose to roll the dice.

StillH2OEgger said:

DoubleEgger said:

$400 a month. Bhahahahaha. These kids can’t get a job and many come from lower income households with little or no financial help from home.  How do you expect a young man to have a life on  $100/week while putting in 50-60hrs in for football? If you think these young men are getting anything close to a real college education, you are kidding yourself. The scholarship is nothing more than a place marker for these athletes. 
The economic impact of each Clemson player is hundreds of thousands of dollars (Alabama is over $500k/player/yr). There’s more money to go around than a Benjamin a week. Especially since they’ve added games to the schedule over the years. 

If my college tuition, room and board were all covered by my athletic scholarship, what needs do I really have? Who has time to spend money when your allegedly working 50-60 hours per week? Aging myself here, but even at my best I wasn't drinking $100 worth per week. The stipends are also more than $400 at many schools. I believe Auburn, even after losing to the alleged "national champions" players receive closer to $600 per month.

Car insurance,Parking passes, maintenance, gas, beer money, date money, walking around money, incidentals, etc. It adds up. 

Kids are getting screwed out of an honest education for a C note a week. 

Here is a pretty good read regarding paying players. The problem is tuition is not the same for all schools and I can’t imaging paying these guys 100k plus to play college football.  A lot of these guys would not even be at these schools if it weren’t for their athletic abilities earning them a scholarship. 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4241077/why-we-shouldnt-pay-college-athletes

StillH2OEgger said:

DoubleEgger said:

Car insurance,Parking passes, maintenance, gas, beer money, date money, walking around money, incidentals, etc. It adds up. 

Kids are getting screwed out of an honest education for a C note a week. 

According to the NCAA, the graduation rate for Division I college athletes was 87 percent last year. Football and basketball are the only revenue sports so I'm not sure whether you support paying all athletes or just the ones who participate in revenue sports, but it appears many are taking advantage of their opportunity earn degrees that cost a great deal of money for non-scholarship athletes. You also seem to suggest that all or a majority of college athletes come from underprivileged home situations with little family support for those incidentals. I know those exist, but I don't think it's as high a percentage as you might think.

My main point is that these kids are getting screwed. Perhaps the women’s rowing team not so much as a NCAA Division 1 football or basketball player. The whole scholarship argument is a total farce in my opinion. 

I can diminish it for two reasons. 
1) You can get a scholarship in a lot of states like my home state of GA simply by having decent grades in high school. You don’t have to sell yourself for 50-60hrs a week to get it.
2) A lot of these young men aren’t getting the education they desire. These kids simply are not getting the time in the classroom and study time. Monday night’s game is on a school night. Basketball games during the week all the time. They are simply being shuffled through the system. What happens when a player gets hurt and can’t play anymore? That scholarship goes away. Remember Devon Cole and the UGA game. He’s just now attempting to walk again. 

DoubleEgger said:

Remember Devon Cole and the UGA game. He’s just now attempting to walk again. 

Do you mean Devon Gales? I thought Southern offered him a scholarship to complete his undergraduate degree and attend graduate school. He came back to Atlanta to rehab at the Shepherd Center, instead, and he's going to the game tonight.