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OT - Science is Awesome!

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  • PirateBill
    PirateBill Posts: 259
    nice post count @JohnInCarolina

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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,826
    Legume said:
    F-science, I have CO monitors all over my house and I can't find any at all.
    LMAO
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    If you don't think human activity can change the climate, you're basically saying that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas.  

    I don't know when we became so skeptical of expert opinion as a society...   
    Tis a mystery but a couple fellows named Dunning and Kruger have described the effect it has on society.

    Personally, I blame the internet...and Obama.

    Seriously tho, I think that, historically, the masses have always had a distrust and misunderstanding of science.

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • YEMTrey
    YEMTrey Posts: 6,837
    And for the record, I agree.  Always Sunny in Philly is one of the funniest shows on the tele. 
    Steve 
    XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio

  • gdenby
    gdenby Posts: 6,239
    I think I may have posted a link to this site before, but its worth a repeat:

    https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/

    Long story short, green house gasses aside, more generated energy cannot after a point be radiated away. We are slo cooking ourselves.

  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    There are two levels of ozone. Good ozone is what CFC deteriorated over time, things are better, but not great. Lower level ozone, smog, is what we hope to diminish over the next couple of decades. It is not just cars and transportation that impacts LLO, it is bakeries, dry cleaners,  paint facilities, livestock, farms, lawn mower, paper manufacturing facilities, fertilizer factories, etc.
    O2 and O3 is formed by the break down of compounds containing C, H, N, and O in their evaporative state. The major culprit is Compounds with N and O. UV light breaks them apart to form lower level ozone. That acts as a greenhouse gas, keeping particulate contamination in the air as well as other gasses. This is the brown haze you see flying into cities.
    Lower level Ozone is getting better, but by no means, is it anywhere close to being resolved.
    For us to blame the use of hydrocarbons as the reason for our environment/air quality issues, is like blaming Rosie O'Donnell's spoon for making her fat.
    It starts with you and I. I am not doing much.
    ASIP reminds me of the first BB, when we all worked on Brent's canopy.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207
    edited April 2017
    gdenby said:

    Long story short, green house gasses aside, more generated energy cannot after a point be radiated away. We are slo cooking ourselves.


    Low and slow......just how I like it. 

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."

                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
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  • Botch
    Botch Posts: 17,397
    nolabrew said:
    I always wondered where the professor got all of his borosilicate glass.  Did he just happen to take it all with him on a 3 hour cruise? 

    Yup, along with his Yuge library.  

    "Dumplings are just noodles that have already eaten"   - Jon Kung

    Ogden, UT, USA


  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    Botch said:
    nolabrew said:
    I always wondered where the professor got all of his borosilicate glass.  Did he just happen to take it all with him on a 3 hour cruise? 

    Yup, along with his Yuge library.  
    He packed bigly for the 3hr tour. 
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,826
    Botch said:
    nolabrew said:
    I always wondered where the professor got all of his borosilicate glass.  Did he just happen to take it all with him on a 3 hour cruise? 

    Yup, along with his Yuge library.  
    He packed bigly for the 3hr tour. 
    Hey man - you never know what's going to happen!  One moment you're on a leisurely cruise and then a storm comes and you're stuck in a bad sitcom.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    Some people carry condoms, some Pyrex
  • onedbguru
    onedbguru Posts: 1,648
    YukonRon said:
    Finding synthetic structures that will allow MOFS to absorb all wavelengths of light may be cost prohibitive, but this type of environmental engineering will be worth every penny. I wonder what they will use as CO2 scrubbers? Cost Prohibitive?

    Last time I studied "science", I learned the Earth has massive quantities of CO2 scrubbers... They are called plants. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions, stop breathing. 
    :):):) 
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    Some people carry condoms, some Pyrex
    I carry cardamom and Woodford.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    I would carry a sextant, a big knife and some flint.  
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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
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    Tampa Bay, FL
    EIB 6 Oct 95
  • YukonRon
    YukonRon Posts: 17,261
    onedbguru said:
    YukonRon said:
    Finding synthetic structures that will allow MOFS to absorb all wavelengths of light may be cost prohibitive, but this type of environmental engineering will be worth every penny. I wonder what they will use as CO2 scrubbers? Cost Prohibitive?

    Last time I studied "science", I learned the Earth has massive quantities of CO2 scrubbers... They are called plants. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions, stop breathing. 
    :):):) 
    Yup. Based on power plant emissions we will need a lot of very big plants.
    "Knowledge is Good" - Emil Faber

    XL and MM
    Louisville, Kentucky
  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    Stop hugging trees and start planting them.   
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    XL 6/06, Mini 6/12, L 10/12, Mini #2 12/14 MiniMax 3/16 Large #2 11/20 Legacy from my FIL - RIP PitBoss Navigator 850G 11/25
    Tampa Bay, FL
    EIB 6 Oct 95
  • nolabrew
    nolabrew Posts: 246
    I hate to argue about something as divisive as climate change on a food forum, so let's talk about science we can all agree with, vaccines definitely cause autism.  Right guys?
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 34,650
    nolabrew said:
    I hate to argue about something as divisive as climate change on a food forum, so let's talk about science we can all agree with, vaccines definitely cause autism.  Right guys?
    todays science may say no, what about tomorrows science =)
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,209
    Which forum members would be cast to play Gilligans Island today? Go...
  • YEMTrey
    YEMTrey Posts: 6,837
    We know RRP would be in it and who he would play!
    Steve 
    XL, Mini Max, and a 22" Blackstone in Cincinnati, Ohio

  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    nolabrew said:
    I hate to argue about something as divisive as climate change on a food forum, so let's talk about science we can all agree with, vaccines definitely cause autism.  Right guys?

    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • HofstraJet
    HofstraJet Posts: 1,173
    YEMTrey said:
    We know RRP would be in it and who he would play!

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  • thetrim
    thetrim Posts: 11,387
    The. That would make @SGH Mrs. Howell
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  • onedbguru
    onedbguru Posts: 1,648
    Science is exact. Except when it comes to cholesterol and eggs and margarine vs butter ... and ... and .... and ...  They have flip-flopped how many times over just these two examples??? It the 70's we were facing an ice age by 2000. The oceans are rising = at a rate of currently ~ 2mm??? yeah, that's going to take a while.  There is no polar bear crisis. The ice at the South Pole is growing at a huge rate. and the oceans are like a glass of water with ice cubes in it. as the ice melts, there is no change in the water line. And finally, when a cell divides, science says it is alive - except when it is a human baby. what unfathomable pinheadary.  
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    A cell that has divided does not equal a baby or anything alive other than a bicellular organism.  One up on an amoeba.  Science provides insight via fact.  Very simple.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    onedbguru said:
    Science is exact. Except when it comes to cholesterol and eggs and margarine vs butter ... and ... and .... and ...  They have flip-flopped how many times over just these two examples??? It the 70's we were facing an ice age by 2000. The oceans are rising = at a rate of currently ~ 2mm??? yeah, that's going to take a while.  There is no polar bear crisis. The ice at the South Pole is growing at a huge rate. and the oceans are like a glass of water with ice cubes in it. as the ice melts, there is no change in the water line. And finally, when a cell divides, science says it is alive - except when it is a human baby. what unfathomable pinheadary.  
    Just padding my post count cuz you make it easy.  And what college or post graduate degree do you have so as to lend any legitimacy to your claims?  
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga
  • onedbguru
    onedbguru Posts: 1,648
    bgebrent said:
    A cell that has divided does not equal a baby or anything alive other than a bicellular organism.  One up on an amoeba.  Science provides insight via fact.  Very simple.
    Because it has begun dividing, is it not alive? it is either dead or alive.
    Dead != dividing
    dividing = life. 
    very simple
  • bgebrent
    bgebrent Posts: 19,636
    onedbguru said:
    bgebrent said:
    A cell that has divided does not equal a baby or anything alive other than a bicellular organism.  One up on an amoeba.  Science provides insight via fact.  Very simple.
    Because it has begun dividing, is it not alive? it is either dead or alive.
    Dead != dividing
    dividing = life. 
    very simple
    It's a progenitor of life.  Adopt this life at two cells.
    Sandy Springs & Dawsonville Ga