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  • Posts: 114
    That's the one thing I can't stand about this forum.
    22 in Macon, GA - Large BGE 2015
  • Posts: 2,349
    rossv1 said:
    That's the one thing I can't stand about this forum.
    You always have the option of starting your own, eh?

    the mods here let more stuff go than on many forums.
  • Posts: 683
    edited December 2015
    Brother Brent, may I play off one of your points?  You said "freedom of speech is kinda special."  Freedom of speech is a God given right and is recognized as such by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.  What that means is nobody will throw you in jail for your speech.  It does not guarantee your speech will be without consequences.  People get fired for saying stupid things everyday.  In this case, people do not have a right of access to speak on the forum should the owners of the forum decide they have crossed the line.
    Spot on Fred.   If someone wants to start their own forum, they can set their own limits or have none if they so choose.  Most business sponsored forums will have limits on language, attacks,  even topics.   It's their hosting dollars and their reputation.  I think they allow quite a wide latitude here and we should all think before posting questionable stuph in order to keep it that way.  If some of the incendiary gang wants to open a no holes barred forum, I might even pay to enjoy the sparring. Here though, we must respect the public nature of BGE's corporate reputation and act semi-restrained. IMHO  @Spaightlabs I didn't see ur post when I wrote mine,  I obviously agree.
    LBGE, AR.  Lives in N.E. ATL
  • Brother Brent, may I play off one of your points?  You said "freedom of speech is kinda special."  Freedom of speech is a God given right and is recognized as such by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.  What that means is nobody will throw you in jail for your speech.  It does not guarantee your speech will be without consequences.  People get fired for saying stupid things everyday.  In this case, people do not have a right of access to speak on the forum should the owners of the forum decide they have crossed the line.
    There's Fred - always the life of the party!
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Posts: 2,349
    Yeah, it isn't every thread, but if you have a 12 year old kid interested in egging who comes on here that kid isn't gonna not read the questionable stuff.

    you can walk on the razor's edge, but you can't complain if you get cut.
  • Yeah, it isn't every thread, but if you have a 12 year old kid interested in egging who comes on here that kid isn't gonna not read the questionable stuff.

    you can walk on the razor's edge, but you can't complain if you get cut.
    I think Nola would be the first to admit that he tends to discourage young men from coming on this forum just to learn how to smoke their meat.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Posts: 3,865
    edited December 2015
    While all of that is certainly true, @stlcharcoal , what are the rules, exactly?  Certainly the rules of common decency apply, and are generally adhered to, but if there is an explicit set of guidelines for this forum (along with the associated penalties for violations), I missed them.

    I agree that BGE can moderate this forum however they want - it's their space.  However, moderation here is inconsistent at best, both at what is allowed, and when (and to what degree).  A clearer policy and consistent (and transparent) moderation would go a long way from preventing these sort of outcrys.

    And frankly, without a little latitude to stray off topic from time to time, this forum would get boring and empty pretty fast.  You can only post so many spatchcock chickens.
    NOLA
  • Posts: 14,544
    buzd504 said:
    While all of that is certainly true, @stlcharcoal , what are the rules, exactly?  Certainly the rules of common decency apply, and are generally adhered to, but if there is an explicit set of guidelines for this forum (along with the associated penalties for violations), I missed them.

    I agree that BGE can moderate this forum however they want - it's their space.  However, moderation here is inconsistent at best, both at what is allowed, and when (and to what degree).  A clearer policy and consistent (and transparent) moderation would go a long way from preventing these sort of outcrys.

    And frankly, without a little latitude to stray off topic from time to time, this forum would get boring and empty pretty fast.  You can only post so many spatchcock chickens.
    Please see the category marked "Rules and Disclaimer" it's on your right. 
  • Posts: 3,865
    edited December 2015
    Please see the category marked "Rules and Disclaimer" it's on your right. 

    Lol, it comes up totally blank for me.


    NOLA
  • Posts: 14,544
    buzd504 said:

    Lol, it comes up totally blank for me.


    Click the discussion!!! Uhmmm! 
  • nola's just been spotted at Target with skinny jeans hanging below his butt and his underwear showing.  Oh, and he's sporting a purple mohawk.  There was a trail of crying 10 year old kids with their mothers trying to comfort them.
  • Please see the category marked "Rules and Disclaimer" it's on your right. 
    What's there is not actually all that helpful in terms of what Buzd's asking.

    I think it's pretty clear what the "rules" are, however, just from observing what happens on this forum on a regular basis.  This is pretty boring stuff if you ask me, but whatever.

    Threads that are product spam or political in nature will eventually get sunk, or "buffaloed" as SGH likes to put it.  

    Threads that are clearly offensive in some way shape or form will simply be deleted.  

    Forum members who start offensive threads will have their accounts suspended.  Depending on the member, that suspension might be permanent or it might be temporary.  

    I think that's basically it.  Yeah things aren't always consistent but come on.  This forum actually functions extremely well for what it's designed to do: build a community of people around BGE products, be a safe space (you see what I did there) to ask questions, and to allow people to share recipes and info about Eggfests and the like.  


    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Posts: 3,865
    Click the discussion!!! Uhmmm! 

    Lol, oops.  See how hard it is to find the rules?  
    NOLA
  • Posts: 155
    I did not see the thread in question.  I am also not a frequent poster so my opinion does not matter much.  Recently I have been getting turned off by this place with the various threads re politics, guns and so on.  I realize that no one is forcing me to read any of these threads, and I usually avoid them.  But the net overall impact, is that the way that people carry on in those threads turns me off on the entire forum.  So I now come around once in a while rather than every day.

    Forums like this are not founded on the principles of free speech, and we are all here by the good graces of the host.  If you are a visitor in someone's home, then you live by their rules when you are there.  A similar principle applies here and in any other hosted forum.  Seems like some people have a hard time with that concept. 
    Winnipeg, Canada
  • Posts: 4,716
    buzd504 said:

    Lol, oops.  See how hard it is to find the rules?  

    Plus you had to agree to them when you signed up.

    I don't think they need to spell it out that you can not post a thread entitled "#%&$ you".  Nor can you go to the public park and start yelling that with people around you.  C'mon.....common sense.  And "I was drunk" may be a reason, but it's not an excuse.

    This is private property and we're guests.  BGE can run it how they see fit because free speech does not apply here.  If it's boring, we can all go somewhere else--that's our freedom.
  • News flash.  I just heard nola joined the crescent city homebrewers association yesterday.  I think he's so DEVASTATED he got the boot here he went to find a new group of friends...and a new hobby.
  • Posts: 3,865
    edited December 2015

    Plus you had to agree to them when you signed up.

    I don't think they need to spell it out that you can not post a thread entitled "#%&$ you".  Nor can you go to the public park and start yelling that with people around you.  C'mon.....common sense.  And "I was drunk" may be a reason, but it's not an excuse.

    This is private property and we're guests.  BGE can run it how they see fit because free speech does not apply here.  If it's boring, we can all go somewhere else--that's our freedom.

    I wasn't disagreeing with you on any of those points, and certainly not as to whether the thread in question was appropriate.

    My only point is that the moderation is inconsistent - some obviously inappropriate threads stay up for a while, some just sink, some are zapped immediately. Perhaps it wouldn't seem as arbitrary with visible moderators or BGE participation for more immediate feedback.

    But ultimately, I agree - their turf and they can run it the way they want.
    NOLA
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    News flash.  I just heard nola joined the crescent city homebrewers association yesterday.  I think he's so DEVASTATED he got the boot here he went to find a new group of friends...and a new hobby.
    I'm pretty sure drinking was already one of his hobbies.
  • I am truly amazed at some of these responses. JIC,  I seldom agree with your political/social commentary ( I'm about as conservative as you get.). This is a bunch of s@it. I was gifted a MBGE, and largely because of my time on this forum, I'm looking to buy an XLG. And by the  way stlcharcoal , I use ur effing charcoal and travel an hour each way to get it.  I learned about it here.  Personally, I enjoy the back and forth banter. If someone is concerned about what their d@mn kid might read on here, they sure as he// better be leaning over their shoulder every time they are on the web.  This sh:t is relatively pretty tame.  My $.02 worth. 

    Tommy 

    Middle of Nowhere, Northern Kentucky
       1 M, 1 XL, a BlackStone,1 old Webber, a Border Collie, a German Shepherd and 3 of her pups, and 2 Yorkies

  • Posts: 8,207
    He's a big boy. He'll be back before ya know it. 

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."

                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
    Peachtree Corners, GA
  • Posts: 4,716
    buzd504 said:
    Probably because they only step in when alerted......due to a flag or email to "forumabuse".  If they have pay someone to police this place full time, you will pretty much see it go away.  If the place runs just fine and no one is flagging/emailing, then there's probably better stuff to be doing.

    The marshall might only roll through town a few times a week or once a day and just zap stuff they immediately see.  With non-descriptive titles, or with the chaos that occurs in some threads spontaneously, there's no watching every single one of them 24/7.  Most of it the "fun" happens Friday and Saturday nights.
  • Can't we go back to discussing the dirty hippie and his problems in the boudoir?  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
  • Posts: 10,136
    Yeah. While consistently is generally desirable I don't thank most of us want more moderation.  

    XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle

    San Antonio, TX

  • I think Bernie told him to get back on the campaign trail and concentrate more on getting him elected than a flippen Q forum..
    Greensboro North Carolina
    When in doubt Accelerate....
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    Green egg, dead animal and alcohol. The "Boro".. TN 
  • Posts: 8,207
    Can't we go back to discussing the dirty hippie and his problems in the boudoir?  

    Is that your way of telling me to take back my "he's a big boy" comment? 

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."

                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
    Peachtree Corners, GA

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