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bgebrent said:@Dyal_SC, I have to agree. However fun and games are also ok. The vulgarity and pornosity (not a real word) have nothing to do with BBQ. That said, freedom of speech is kinda special. There will be times we're made uncomfortable. We post on and view this forum to learn about and post about all things BBQ and charcuterie. However, other prescient topics will arise, if nothing else than for distraction. Guns, politics, the speed of light. I'm with you in that BBQ should be the focus. But fun should be there too. You've seen my threads regarding concealed carry weapons and gun safe zones. They are "Off Topic" threads that belong here. The vulgar stuff, uh, sometimes it's funny but I get your point, I could do without it. But the whole forum, is awesome. And as much as @nolaegghead and I disagree on politics, we have great fun chatting about our Porsches, Can you tell I'm babysitting a brisket?Flint, Michigan
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Fred19Flintstone said:22 in Macon, GA - Large BGE 2015
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rossv1 said:That's the one thing I can't stand about this forum.
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Fred19Flintstone said:Brother Brent, may I play off one of your points? You said "freedom of speech is kinda special." Freedom of speech is a God given right and is recognized as such by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. What that means is nobody will throw you in jail for your speech. It does not guarantee your speech will be without consequences. People get fired for saying stupid things everyday. In this case, people do not have a right of access to speak on the forum should the owners of the forum decide they have crossed the line.LBGE, AR. Lives in N.E. ATL
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Fred19Flintstone said:Brother Brent, may I play off one of your points? You said "freedom of speech is kinda special." Freedom of speech is a God given right and is recognized as such by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. What that means is nobody will throw you in jail for your speech. It does not guarantee your speech will be without consequences. People get fired for saying stupid things everyday. In this case, people do not have a right of access to speak on the forum should the owners of the forum decide they have crossed the line."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Am I missing something here? It's just an occasional thread. One of hundreds, or thousands. If you find it offensive, DON'T READ IT!!!!! It's that simple. There are plenty that are solely dedicated to Egging. I enjoy being able to find answers to my egging questions and get a little entertainment all on the same forum.
Tommy
Middle of Nowhere, Northern Kentucky
1 M, 1 XL, a BlackStone,1 old Webber, a Border Collie, a German Shepherd and 3 of her pups, and 2 Yorkies -
Yeah, it isn't every thread, but if you have a 12 year old kid interested in egging who comes on here that kid isn't gonna not read the questionable stuff.
you can walk on the razor's edge, but you can't complain if you get cut. -
Spaightlabs said:Yeah, it isn't every thread, but if you have a 12 year old kid interested in egging who comes on here that kid isn't gonna not read the questionable stuff.
you can walk on the razor's edge, but you can't complain if you get cut."I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Spaightlabs said:Yeah, it isn't every thread, but if you have a 12 year old kid interested in egging who comes on here that kid isn't gonna not read the questionable stuff.
you can walk on the razor's edge, but you can't complain if you get cut.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk -
One other thing you have to remember is that this board (like any other board/forum), is a marketing tool. Most are their to sell advertising or memberships, this one is here to sell Eggs. The owner (BGE) is providing this to create an extension or outlet to the lifestyle they are selling with their brand. They have the right to direct that brand to make it in conformance with their marketing plan. If this turns into a "old boys club" with all of the aforementioned stuff, then it's going to turn new people away. BGE already sold us the Eggs, but the old timers are here to help the new folks and create an inviting space. Foul language, personal attacks, and other vulgar stuff turns people away--BECAUSE they don't know is trolling/BS.
The reality is that we are be used for advertising, and if we fail to perform, we're out. If I come here and try to sell my stuff, if people try to make this a political board, etc it's all off point and it's hurting their brand. I'm actually very surprised how loosely moderated this board it. But if it's overly moderated, everyone is going to leave because it's not entertaining. Yes, there are plenty of other BGE discussion boards out there, none of which have any activity--so if you want to play here, play by the rules. From what I've seen, as long as you keep things to healthy & stimulating conversation, OT is fine......but then people start attacking each other, and then they usually turn into "devastated" threads. Then it's onto something else. Nothing wrong in my books when a mod is "sinking" or "zapping" those since they're drawing the whole herd off point.
I realize this is pretty blunt, but it's the truth. Just like the whole premise of TV and radio is to keep you there to watch/listen to the commercial. The news's primary purpose is not there to report the news--they are there to sell you commercials during the break. We're here to sell BGE for free.....if you don't like it, hit the "log out" button and have a nice day.
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While all of that is certainly true, @stlcharcoal , what are the rules, exactly? Certainly the rules of common decency apply, and are generally adhered to, but if there is an explicit set of guidelines for this forum (along with the associated penalties for violations), I missed them.
I agree that BGE can moderate this forum however they want - it's their space. However, moderation here is inconsistent at best, both at what is allowed, and when (and to what degree). A clearer policy and consistent (and transparent) moderation would go a long way from preventing these sort of outcrys.
And frankly, without a little latitude to stray off topic from time to time, this forum would get boring and empty pretty fast. You can only post so many spatchcock chickens.
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buzd504 said:While all of that is certainly true, @stlcharcoal , what are the rules, exactly? Certainly the rules of common decency apply, and are generally adhered to, but if there is an explicit set of guidelines for this forum (along with the associated penalties for violations), I missed them.
I agree that BGE can moderate this forum however they want - it's their space. However, moderation here is inconsistent at best, both at what is allowed, and when (and to what degree). A clearer policy and consistent (and transparent) moderation would go a long way from preventing these sort of outcrys.
And frankly, without a little latitude to stray off topic from time to time, this forum would get boring and empty pretty fast. You can only post so many spatchcock chickens. -
pgprescott said:Please see the category marked "Rules and Disclaimer" it's on your right.
Lol, it comes up totally blank for me.
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buzd504 said:
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nola's just been spotted at Target with skinny jeans hanging below his butt and his underwear showing. Oh, and he's sporting a purple mohawk. There was a trail of crying 10 year old kids with their mothers trying to comfort them.
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pgprescott said:Please see the category marked "Rules and Disclaimer" it's on your right.
I think it's pretty clear what the "rules" are, however, just from observing what happens on this forum on a regular basis. This is pretty boring stuff if you ask me, but whatever.
Threads that are product spam or political in nature will eventually get sunk, or "buffaloed" as SGH likes to put it.
Threads that are clearly offensive in some way shape or form will simply be deleted.
Forum members who start offensive threads will have their accounts suspended. Depending on the member, that suspension might be permanent or it might be temporary.
I think that's basically it. Yeah things aren't always consistent but come on. This forum actually functions extremely well for what it's designed to do: build a community of people around BGE products, be a safe space (you see what I did there) to ask questions, and to allow people to share recipes and info about Eggfests and the like.
"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
NOLA
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I did not see the thread in question. I am also not a frequent poster so my opinion does not matter much. Recently I have been getting turned off by this place with the various threads re politics, guns and so on. I realize that no one is forcing me to read any of these threads, and I usually avoid them. But the net overall impact, is that the way that people carry on in those threads turns me off on the entire forum. So I now come around once in a while rather than every day.
Forums like this are not founded on the principles of free speech, and we are all here by the good graces of the host. If you are a visitor in someone's home, then you live by their rules when you are there. A similar principle applies here and in any other hosted forum. Seems like some people have a hard time with that concept.Winnipeg, Canada -
buzd504 said:
Plus you had to agree to them when you signed up.
I don't think they need to spell it out that you can not post a thread entitled "#%&$ you". Nor can you go to the public park and start yelling that with people around you. C'mon.....common sense. And "I was drunk" may be a reason, but it's not an excuse.
This is private property and we're guests. BGE can run it how they see fit because free speech does not apply here. If it's boring, we can all go somewhere else--that's our freedom.
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News flash. I just heard nola joined the crescent city homebrewers association yesterday. I think he's so DEVASTATED he got the boot here he went to find a new group of friends...and a new hobby.
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stlcharcoal said:
Plus you had to agree to them when you signed up.
I don't think they need to spell it out that you can not post a thread entitled "#%&$ you". Nor can you go to the public park and start yelling that with people around you. C'mon.....common sense. And "I was drunk" may be a reason, but it's not an excuse.
This is private property and we're guests. BGE can run it how they see fit because free speech does not apply here. If it's boring, we can all go somewhere else--that's our freedom.
I wasn't disagreeing with you on any of those points, and certainly not as to whether the thread in question was appropriate.
My only point is that the moderation is inconsistent - some obviously inappropriate threads stay up for a while, some just sink, some are zapped immediately. Perhaps it wouldn't seem as arbitrary with visible moderators or BGE participation for more immediate feedback.
But ultimately, I agree - their turf and they can run it the way they want.
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Conway_Twitty said:News flash. I just heard nola joined the crescent city homebrewers association yesterday. I think he's so DEVASTATED he got the boot here he went to find a new group of friends...and a new hobby.
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I am truly amazed at some of these responses. JIC, I seldom agree with your political/social commentary ( I'm about as conservative as you get.). This is a bunch of s@it. I was gifted a MBGE, and largely because of my time on this forum, I'm looking to buy an XLG. And by the way stlcharcoal , I use ur effing charcoal and travel an hour each way to get it. I learned about it here. Personally, I enjoy the back and forth banter. If someone is concerned about what their d@mn kid might read on here, they sure as he// better be leaning over their shoulder every time they are on the web. This sh:t is relatively pretty tame. My $.02 worth.
Tommy
Middle of Nowhere, Northern Kentucky
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He's a big boy. He'll be back before ya know it.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
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buzd504 said:
The marshall might only roll through town a few times a week or once a day and just zap stuff they immediately see. With non-descriptive titles, or with the chaos that occurs in some threads spontaneously, there's no watching every single one of them 24/7. Most of it the "fun" happens Friday and Saturday nights.
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Can't we go back to discussing the dirty hippie and his problems in the boudoir?"I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat -
Yeah. While consistently is generally desirable I don't thank most of us want more moderation.
XXL BGE, Karebecue, Klose BYC, Chargiller Akorn Kamado, Weber Smokey Mountain, Grand Turbo gasser, Weber Smoky Joe, and the wheelbarrow that my grandfather used to cook steaks from his cattle
San Antonio, TX
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I think Bernie told him to get back on the campaign trail and concentrate more on getting him elected than a flippen Q forum..Greensboro North Carolina
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JohnInCarolina said:Can't we go back to discussing the dirty hippie and his problems in the boudoir?
Is that your way of telling me to take back my "he's a big boy" comment?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
-Umberto Eco
2 Large
Peachtree Corners, GA
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