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Whatever your thoughts on climate change, this is BS & would cost all of us.

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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    Matt Damon may disagree 
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    SoCalWJS said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    SoCalWJS said:
    Steve753 said:
    I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

    It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

    What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

    Check Solar output levels and cycles.
    Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?
    When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.
    I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    JohnInCarolina said:
    SoCalWJS said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    SoCalWJS said:
    Steve753 said:
    I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

    It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

    What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

    Check Solar output levels and cycles.
    Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?
    When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.
    I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.
    But... were their thermometers calibrated in boiling water?
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    @DMW - I give up.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • DMW
    DMW Posts: 13,836
    JohnInCarolina said:
    @DMW - I give up.
    Don't we all.
    They/Them
    Morgantown, PA

    XL BGE - S BGE - KJ Jr - HB Legacy - BS Pizza Oven - 30" Firepit - King Kooker Fryer -  PR72T - WSJ - BS 17" Griddle - XXL BGE  - BS SS36" Griddle - 2 Burner Gasser - Pellet Smoker
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  • logchief
    logchief Posts: 1,431
    Well, I'm going to keep pumping out carbon particles out of the daisy wheel and enjoying the food.
    LBGE - I like the hot stuff.  The big dry San Joaquin Valley, Clovis, CA 
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  • GATraveller
    GATraveller Posts: 8,207

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots."
                                                                                  -Umberto Eco

    2 Large
    Peachtree Corners, GA
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  • SoCalWJS
    SoCalWJS Posts: 407
    edited November 2015
    JohnInCarolina said:
    SoCalWJS said:
    JohnInCarolina said:
    SoCalWJS said:
    Steve753 said:
    I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

    It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

    What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

    Check Solar output levels and cycles.
    Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?
    When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.
    I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.
    Last I checked I was a college graduate. The theory that the Sun is THE largest factor in determining the temperature on the inner planets is fairly obvious to even high school dropouts. I've listened to and read from numerous people who are Scientists and/or Climatologists, including the former head of Greenpeace who acknowledge that at the most, man made global warming is grossly overstated, and at worst a complete farce.
    http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/03/20/why-i-am-climate-change-skeptic
    South SLO County
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    It's a giant hoax alright, just like the moon landing.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • BuckeyeFork
    BuckeyeFork Posts: 193
    Tines, they are a changing.
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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,174
    Time for a dic pic...
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  • BuckeyeFork
    BuckeyeFork Posts: 193
    Only if you have a college degree DE.
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  • SoCalWJS
    SoCalWJS Posts: 407
    JohnInCarolina said:
    It's a giant hoax alright, just like the moon landing.
    No, more like Big Foot and Roswell.
    South SLO County
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  • Davec433
    Davec433 Posts: 463
    @JohnInCarolina
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    Davec433 said:
    @JohnInCarolina
    I think you want the version of this with your.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Fred19Flintstone
    Fred19Flintstone Posts: 8,174
    Flint, Michigan
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  • BuckeyeFork
    BuckeyeFork Posts: 193
    Flat earth society circling the wagons.

    Your move Warmers.
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    Fred19Flintstone said:
    I like the way you drop in on these threads Fred. Just like diarrhea.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • Begger
    Begger Posts: 607
    Bottom Line:
    Too many people:    US has about 5% of the worlds population and consumes at least 20% (I'd like a better number) of world resources.  
    EXPONENTIAL growth is the enemy.   Divide 72 by the percent growth to get DOUBLE TIME for the thing in question.    Example:  Population grows at about 2%.   72/2=36 which in years is the doubling time for population.   

    The Limit To Growth can be almost anthing.  Population / Food / Pollution / Water / Critical Resource / Energy  or the old standby, WAR.  

    To live like middle ages Earth could support lots of people.   Living better lowers the number AND shortens the time frame FOR such support.

    Key is FEWER people and intelligent resource management.  Sustainability.  

    http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

    The 10 'commandments' are written in 8 languages so almost NO MATTER what, they will be legible far into the future.
    English:  Spanish:  Swahili:   Hindi:  Hebrew:   Arabic:   Chinese:   Russian:

    A Rosetta Stone to the future.  

    TANSTAAFL
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  • Fred19Flintstone
    Fred19Flintstone Posts: 8,174
    JohnInCarolina said:
    Fred19Flintstone said:
    I like the way you drop in on these threads Fred. Just like diarrhea.
    Do you ever think you spend too much time here?  Just wondering.  Oh, and lighten up buddy.
    Flint, Michigan
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  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 34,735
    LOL
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike

    "The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." - Deep Throat
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  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    DoubleEgger said:
    Time for a dic pic...
    Where is @ImOldGregg or @Mike_Hauchertz when we need them ;)

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

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  • nooneinparticular
    nooneinparticular Posts: 15
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  • SGH
    SGH Posts: 28,989
    nooneinparticular said:
    That's not quite right =)

    Location- Just "this side" of Biloxi, Ms.

    Status- Standing by.

    The greatest barrier against all wisdom, the stronghold against knowledge itself, is the single thought, in ones mind, that they already have it all figured out. 

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  • theyolksonyou
    theyolksonyou Posts: 18,459
    I keep trying...

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  • Sardonicus
    Sardonicus Posts: 1,700
    theyolksonyou said:
    I keep trying...

    And we're enjoying the effort!

    "Too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and barbecuing."      - George Burns

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  • Sardonicus
    Sardonicus Posts: 1,700
    edited November 2015
    Thanksgiving humor:

    Carlin on global warming
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuimRdB-kc4
    (Keep Dr. Rorschach's contribution in mind as you view.)

    "Too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and barbecuing."      - George Burns

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  • DoubleEgger
    DoubleEgger Posts: 19,174
    theyolksonyou said:
    I keep trying...

    You know you're old when your hair is whiter than your teeth 
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  • Darby_Crenshaw
    Darby_Crenshaw Posts: 2,657
    Klink was in the Luftwaffe, not a Nazi

    carry on
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  • Fred19Flintstone
    Fred19Flintstone Posts: 8,174
    Wasn't being a Nazi a requirement to be in the Luftwaffe?  Perhaps you meant SS?  He wasn't in the Gestapo like the dreaded Major Hochstetter.  That guy was never amused by Klink's antics!


    Flint, Michigan
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