Whatever your thoughts on climate change, this is BS & would cost all of us.

theyolksonyou

Matt Damon may disagree 

JohnInCarolina

SoCalWJS said:

JohnInCarolina said:

SoCalWJS said:

Steve753 said:

I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

Check Solar output levels and cycles.

Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?

When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.

I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.

DMW

JohnInCarolina said:

SoCalWJS said:

JohnInCarolina said:

SoCalWJS said:

Steve753 said:

I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

Check Solar output levels and cycles.

Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?

When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.

I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.

But... were their thermometers calibrated in boiling water?

JohnInCarolina

@DMW - I give up.

DMW

JohnInCarolina said:

@DMW - I give up.

Don't we all.

logchief

Well, I'm going to keep pumping out carbon particles out of the daisy wheel and enjoying the food.

GATraveller

SoCalWJS

JohnInCarolina said:

SoCalWJS said:

JohnInCarolina said:

SoCalWJS said:

Steve753 said:

I go with what the climate scientist have been telling us all along. The planet has been heating up since the mid 1800's when the industrial revolution started. Already the ocean has risen in a lot of places. It's not liberal or conservative. It's what is happening.

It was cooling up to that  period of time. Before that it was warming.

What caused the earlier warming? Hint: CO2 levels have historically had little/nothing to do with the Planets temperature.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/

Check Solar output levels and cycles.

Obviously it's THE SUN!  Seems kind of unbelievable that so many climate scientists could have overlooked the SUN, amirite?

When I start getting into these "discussions", I love to point out that we have incontrovertible photographic proof from satellite photography that the polar ice cap has shrunk and is melting........on Mars. I blame it on the Rover.

I'm sure this argument plays well amongst the high school dropouts, but not much else. At this time, there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming. Mars' climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations, and we know the sun is not heating up all the planets in our solar system because we can accurately measure the sun’s output here on Earth.

Last I checked I was a college graduate. The theory that the Sun is THE largest factor in determining the temperature on the inner planets is fairly obvious to even high school dropouts. I've listened to and read from numerous people who are Scientists and/or Climatologists, including the former head of Greenpeace who acknowledge that at the most, man made global warming is grossly overstated, and at worst a complete farce.
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/03/20/why-i-am-climate-change-skeptic

JohnInCarolina

It's a giant hoax alright, just like the moon landing.

BuckeyeFork

Tines, they are a changing.

DoubleEgger

Time for a dic pic...

BuckeyeFork

Only if you have a college degree DE.

SoCalWJS

JohnInCarolina said:

It's a giant hoax alright, just like the moon landing.

No, more like Big Foot and Roswell.

Davec433

@JohnInCarolina

JohnInCarolina

Davec433 said:

@JohnInCarolina

I think you want the version of this with your.

Fred19Flintstone

BuckeyeFork

Flat earth society circling the wagons.

Your move Warmers.

JohnInCarolina

Fred19Flintstone said:

I like the way you drop in on these threads Fred. Just like diarrhea.

Begger

Bottom Line:
Too many people:    US has about 5% of the worlds population and consumes at least 20% (I'd like a better number) of world resources.  
EXPONENTIAL growth is the enemy.   Divide 72 by the percent growth to get DOUBLE TIME for the thing in question.    Example:  Population grows at about 2%.   72/2=36 which in years is the doubling time for population.   

The Limit To Growth can be almost anthing.  Population / Food / Pollution / Water / Critical Resource / Energy  or the old standby, WAR.  

To live like middle ages Earth could support lots of people.   Living better lowers the number AND shortens the time frame FOR such support.

Key is FEWER people and intelligent resource management.  Sustainability.  

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

The 10 'commandments' are written in 8 languages so almost NO MATTER what, they will be legible far into the future.
English:  Spanish:  Swahili:   Hindi:  Hebrew:   Arabic:   Chinese:   Russian:

A Rosetta Stone to the future.  

TANSTAAFL

Fred19Flintstone

JohnInCarolina said:

Fred19Flintstone said:

I like the way you drop in on these threads Fred. Just like diarrhea.

Do you ever think you spend too much time here?  Just wondering.  Oh, and lighten up buddy.

JohnInCarolina

LOL

SGH

DoubleEgger said:

Time for a dic pic...

Where is @ImOldGregg or @Mike_Hauchertz when we need them

nooneinparticular

SGH

nooneinparticular said:

That's not quite right

theyolksonyou

I keep trying...

Sardonicus

theyolksonyou said:

I keep trying...

And we're enjoying the effort!

Sardonicus

Thanksgiving humor:

Carlin on global warming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuimRdB-kc4
(Keep Dr. Rorschach's contribution in mind as you view.)

DoubleEgger

theyolksonyou said:

I keep trying...

You know you're old when your hair is whiter than your teeth 

Darby_Crenshaw

Klink was in the Luftwaffe, not a Nazi

carry on

Fred19Flintstone

Wasn't being a Nazi a requirement to be in the Luftwaffe?  Perhaps you meant SS?  He wasn't in the Gestapo like the dreaded Major Hochstetter.  That guy was never amused by Klink's antics!