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Legume

Gulfcoastguy

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-jury-finds-donald-trump-sexually-abused-e-jean-carroll-civil-suit

I know that you won’t like the source,  I am only citing it as a source that agrees on the verdicts. 

Question one , found not liable for rape. Question 2 found liable for sexual abuse but not rape? Question 3 found liable for defamation but not liable for rape. Number one is pretty simple. Number 2 is a bit more complicated as in what constitutes sexual abuse but doesn’t rise to rape. Number 3: he said that he didn’t rape her and the jury agreed. Interesting results.

JohnInCarolina

Gulfcoastguy said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-jury-finds-donald-trump-sexually-abused-e-jean-carroll-civil-suit

I know that you won’t like the source,  I am only citing it as a source that agrees on the verdicts. 

Question one , found not liable for rape. Question 2 found liable for sexual abuse but not rape? Question 3 found liable for defamation but not liable for rape. Number one is pretty simple. Number 2 is a bit more complicated as in what constitutes sexual abuse but doesn’t rise to rape. Number 3: he said that he didn’t rape her and the jury agreed. Interesting results.

No, the jury found that Trump isn't liable for rape because the allegation wasn't proved by a preponderance of evidence.  But they found that he was guilty of everything else he was charged with by the same token, and their verdict was unanimous.  

It's a huge victory for Carroll and for all of the other women Trump has sexually assaulted, some of whom testified at the trial. 

Gulfcoastguy

Again how can he be innocent of rape but guilty of defamation by stating that he didn’t rape her? Also what acts constituted sexual abuse and were there any collaborating witnesses or video records of the general or specific area? Keep in mind that I have said publicly on here that I don’t plan to vote for Trump in the primary as I consider him to have engaged in nepotism, poor judgement in hiring, and poor judgement in accepting election results. Besides that he is an immoral person. But does the Duke lacrosse team case jog any memories?

lousubcap

I gotta get me to some news after being out and about!
How sweet it is!  
Another chink in the CHEETO playbook armor, just building to bringing down the ultimate hammers.  

JohnInCarolina

Gulfcoastguy said:

Again how can he be innocent of rape but guilty of defamation by stating that he didn’t rape her? Also what acts constituted sexual abuse and were there any collaborating witnesses or video records of the general or specific area? Keep in mind that I have said publicly on here that I don’t plan to vote for Trump in the primary as I consider him to have engaged in nepotism, poor judgement in hiring, and poor judgement in accepting election results. Besides that he is an immoral person. But does the Duke lacrosse team case jog any memories?

The Duke kids were found innocent of all charges and the case against them was dropped.  That is not what happened here.

Your other questions can all be answered with a bit of reading and your own research.  

JohnInCarolina

Trump was caught on tape, bragging about being able to sexually assault women.  He’s been accused of the same by multiple women.  Our first instinct when he’s found guilty by a jury of his peers probably shouldn’t be “gee I don’t know what about…” 

nolaegghead

It’s very common to for charges to be reduced for a million reasons.  If she didn’t have a contemporaneous witness and he a big mouth, he may have gotten away with the sex charges.  I just wish he had to register as a sex offender.

Botch

Always remember “There's none so blind as they that won't see.” - Johnathan Swift.  

fishlessman

Legume said:

Judging by the stain on the dress........some one needs to see a doctor

nolaegghead

Wrong stain, this is the one on the wall in the southern white (power) house

dmchicago

Gulfcoastguy said:

Again how can he be innocent of rape but guilty of defamation by stating that he didn’t rape her? Also what acts constituted sexual abuse and were there any collaborating witnesses or video records of the general or specific area? Keep in mind that I have said publicly on here that I don’t plan to vote for Trump in the primary as I consider him to have engaged in nepotism, poor judgement in hiring, and poor judgement in accepting election results. Besides that he is an immoral person. But does the Duke lacrosse team case jog any memories?

Well, at least you won’t vote for him in the PRIMARIES. 

JohnInCarolina

Botch

I don't know exactly how appeals work in the "civil" system, but I wouldn't bet any money on them being exhausted before he dies of diet- and stress-related health issues.  

Gulfcoastguy

dmchicago said:

Gulfcoastguy said:

Again how can he be innocent of rape but guilty of defamation by stating that he didn’t rape her? Also what acts constituted sexual abuse and were there any collaborating witnesses or video records of the general or specific area? Keep in mind that I have said publicly on here that I don’t plan to vote for Trump in the primary as I consider him to have engaged in nepotism, poor judgement in hiring, and poor judgement in accepting election results. Besides that he is an immoral person. But does the Duke lacrosse team case jog any memories?

Well, at least you won’t vote for him in the PRIMARIES. 

I would prefer to vote for someone under 60 but I won’t vote for anyone over 80 either.

nolaegghead

I guess some things are more important than the issues.

Gulfcoastguy

The brain dead can’t do anything about the issues.

Legume

No, but they can sure vote!

HeavyG

Oh snap!!

Gulfcoastguy

And press like.

nolaegghead

Wise presidents make ad hoc decisions based on recommendations from the people who he hires to trust and they will give him assessments and recommendations based on their assessment of summary metrics.  If a president shoots from the hip like a cowboy based on emotion or politics, then IMO he or she is not going to do the best job for the collective country.

nolaegghead

I love lamp.

JohnInCarolina

lousubcap

Talk about groveling for a ratings boost!

nolaegghead

He’s used to the Johnson sucking he gets on Faux News when he says crazy stuff.  The CNN viewers may not be as excited when he “trolls the libs” tonight.  

What could possibly go wrong?

me:

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/MarkJacob16/status/1656282652280750081?s=20

HeavyG

https://twitter.com/Dreamweasel/status/1656123459343187973?s=20

Funny thread. If only.

Botch

I wasn't going to click on the Town Hall, but I did.  See how long I can last (he's already getting frustrated, getting corrected).  
Maybe see how long he can last; What's-her-name is correcting him well so far.  

lousubcap

@Botch- I'm counting on you for the unbiased assessment when this $hit-show is over.  I cannot stand to watch anything with CHEETO as a main focus.

Now, if CHEETO is getting slammed then I'm all in. 

BTW- Have I mentioned how CHEETO makes Nixon look like a saint?

Botch

I can give you an unbiased assessment right now.  We're 50 minutes in and not one audience question so far was from a Democrat/Independent.  Not one!  
I thought they were going for just an hour, but they took a break at 45 minutes, and I can't watch anymore.  
It's apparent that, whatever "journalistic integrity" CNN may have had, is gone now; they're going after a just-cut-loose audience and the dollar$ they represent.  I'm hoping Fareed Zakaria (the only CNN I watch anymore) finds a new home, soon.