Global Warming - Right & Wrong

JohnInCarolina

Botch said:

 

That’s like something out of a horror movie…

lousubcap

A growing number of North Americans are experiencing the effects of climate change in a new way this week after smoke from more than 350 Canadian wildfires drifted south, triggering health advisories as far south as the Carolinas and as far west as Indiana. For Canadians, it's their worst wildfire season in recorded history. 

Flights were halted in and out of New York and New Jersey on Wednesday. Officials in affected states called off field trips, sports, and outside recess at schools. Some governments have asked businesses and municipal departments to limit outdoor activities until the air clears—possibly as early as the weekend. 

Major League Baseball's Philadelphia Phillies postponed their Wednesday night home game against the Detroit Tigers at Citizens Bank Park; same for the Yankees hosting the Chicago White Sox in New York. In some of the most affected regions, air pollution can be worse just before sunrise, which means for folks without a gym membership, outdoor exercise like cycling requires an N95 mask, or better still: Just wait a couple days for those al fresco workouts. 

Check out this apocalyptic timelapse video from New York City on Wednesday, via the Weather Channel. Why are things so orange? The National Weather Service explained in an infographic back in mid-May, after the smoke from Canada first began circulating southward. But now Europe is beginning to be affected as well, and smoke is expected to reach Norway by the end of the day.

JohnInCarolina

Let’s file this one under “Wrong”

http://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1666536643837272064?s=20

Canugghead

Should have built that northern wall.

JohnInCarolina

Gavin is one of the best atmospheric scientists walking the Earth, so he knows of what he speaks:

http://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1666891478717562885?s=20

HeavyG

I think a lot of coal miners would like to slap him upside his head.

lousubcap

El Nino is here:

https://gcaptain.com/el-nino-has-officially-arrived/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-faefda42de-170052525&mc_cid=faefda42de&mc_eid=10465e83ed

dmchicago

This is fine. 

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1676262018125385728?s=20

johnmitchell

I just heard on the news that the increase in kidney stones is directly related to global warming. The increased heat and lack of people hydrating. 

WildmanWilson

johnmitchell said:

I just heard on the news that the increase in kidney stones is directly related to global warming. The increased heat and lack of people hydrating. 

So people are too stupid to drink when they are hot? LOL

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/capitalweather/status/1678477365930860546?s=20

nolaegghead

WildmanWilson said:

johnmitchell said:

I just heard on the news that the increase in kidney stones is directly related to global warming. The increased heat and lack of people hydrating. 

So people are too stupid to drink when they are hot? LOL

Go f*ck yourself

lousubcap

"Catastrophic floods in the Hudson Valley. An unrelenting heat dome over Phoenix. Ocean temperatures hitting 90 degrees Fahrenheit off the coast of Miami. A surprising deluge in Vermont, a rare tornado in Delaware.  In 1980, the average time between billion-dollar disasters was 82 days. From 2018-22, the average time between these most extreme events, even controlled for inflation, was just 18 days."

A decade ago, any one of these events would have been seen as an aberration. This week, they are happening simultaneously as climate change fuels extreme weather, prompting Governor Kathy Hochul of New York, a Democrat, to call it “our new normal.”

Over the past month, smoke from Canadian wildfires blanketed major cities around the country, a deadly heat wave hit Texas and Oklahoma and torrential rains flooded parts of Chicago.

“It’s not just a figment of your imagination, and it’s not because everybody now has a smartphone,” said Jeff Berardelli, the chief meteorologist and climate specialist for WFLA News in Tampa. “We’ve seen an increase in extreme weather. This without a doubt is happening.”"

WildmanWilson

Some scientists are willing to tell the truth. 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nobel-prize-winner-denounces-alarmist-climate-predictions-i-dont-believe-there-is-a-climate-crisis/

HeavyG

WildmanWilson said:

Some One scientists tells me what I want to hear are willing to tell so they must be telling the truth. 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nobel-prize-winner-denounces-alarmist-climate-predictions-i-dont-believe-there-is-a-climate-crisis/

FTFY

Botch

I looked up Dr. Clauser's bio and his Nobel is in a field of quantum mechanics, which really doesn't apply to weather.  And his degrees are in

He received a master of arts in physics in 1966 and a doctor of philosophy in physics in 1969 from Columbia University[1] under the direction of Patrick Thaddeus.[7][8]

I've not heard of those degrees before.    
 
His theory about hotter temperatures increasing the Earth's cloud cover, thereby reflecting more sunlight into space, thus lowering the overall temp, makes sense; but he provides no data on increase of our cloud cover now, with the sudden increase of the Earth's average temp (which IS in the data).  That should be easy to demonstrate with our current satellite coverage.  
 
And I'm just spitballing here, just a dumb gearhead.   
 
EDIT:  Oh, and Wikipedia did have this to say about "Lifesite News":
 

LifeSiteNews is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation. 

JohnInCarolina

The CO2 coalition, huh?  Their primary backers are the Koch brothers and the Mercer family.  As with most things, just follow the $$$

Canugghead

not a fair fight, three on one 

lousubcap

As has been said in many a setting with data/aka numbers in play, give me enough numbers and the result you want and I can get you there.  And so it continues...

JohnInCarolina

Canugghead said:

not a fair fight, three on one 

That’s what the flat Earthers always say - “it’s not fair that we have to argue against so many scientists who say the Earth is spherical!”

JohnInCarolina

In better news:

http://twitter.com/jasonclimateguy/status/1679582523288854528?s=20

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson

Well !!

https://co2coalition.org/2023/07/14/epa-few-stations-show-increase-in-hot-days/

WildmanWilson

JohnInCarolina said:

Only the foolish believe the 97% number that still get thrown around by you snowballs. Its been shown to be a made up farce and manipulated like all the data you seem to blindly cling to. 

WildmanWilson

Botch said:

I looked up Dr. Clauser's bio and his Nobel is in a field of quantum mechanics, which really doesn't apply to weather.  And his degrees are in

He received a master of arts in physics in 1966 and a doctor of philosophy in physics in 1969 from Columbia University[1] under the direction of Patrick Thaddeus.[7][8]

I've not heard of those degrees before.    
 
His theory about hotter temperatures increasing the Earth's cloud cover, thereby reflecting more sunlight into space, thus lowering the overall temp, makes sense; but he provides no data on increase of our cloud cover now, with the sudden increase of the Earth's average temp (which IS in the data).  That should be easy to demonstrate with our current satellite coverage.  
 
And I'm just spitballing here, just a dumb gearhead.   
 
EDIT:  Oh, and Wikipedia did have this to say about "Lifesite News":
 

LifeSiteNews is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation. 

Yeah, we all know only government funded scientist can be trusted to get the correct conclusions.

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson said:

JohnInCarolina said:

Only the foolish believe the 97% number that still get thrown around by you snowballs. Its been shown to be a made up farce and manipulated like all the data you seem to blindly cling to. 

Once again, I’d refer you to the report generated by our very own National Academies that I linked a few pages back.  The National Academies includes not just one Nobel laureate, but many.  You don’t have to believe me, but their report is difficult to just dismiss as being made up.  Of course, you’ll never read it so I don’t know why anyone bothers.

JohnInCarolina

WildmanWilson said:

Well !!

https://co2coalition.org/2023/07/14/epa-few-stations-show-increase-in-hot-days/

Yeah, well indeed!  The best part about this is that the web page you've linked to here actually contains a link to the EPA site.  But when showing the maps with the data, your site has actually cut off some of the key context.  It's not hot days that the EPA is reporting on, it's unusually hot days (above 95th percentile).  Here is the figure from the site you linked:




And here is what it looks like over at the EPA:




Notice the differences?  They took some effort to manipulate the Figure, didn't they?  Why would they do that, you might ask, if you had a brain cell to spare.  

In case the lights still haven't come on inside your head, the EPA includes a helpful explainer at the bottom of the page:



You see, entities like the CO2 coalition are counting on people like you not to read the fine print, or not even bothering to check the original source material.  How is it that they know they can count on that?  Because they know your priors very well, and that once you see something that confirms them... you stop asking questions.  

Canugghead

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1678823215312023553?s=20

WildmanWilson

I wonder how many of you alarmist snowballs are still driving gas powered  cars/trucks and eating belching and farting cows and using fossil fuels for your daily energy needs. If I could ever find one of you alarmist that wasn't a total hypocrite I'd buy that person a drink.