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hows those gas prices

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  • Gulfcoastguy
    Gulfcoastguy Posts: 6,716
    HighHeat said:
    Mixed opinions on this. If we don’t want NATO countries to buy Russian oil and gas then we have to help supply at least a portion of the demand. The remainder that went to “Asia” though needs action. Even if we decided to produce more in the US that would take several months to produce results.
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,564
    It is a global market.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    The strategic oil, like all oil, is sold to the highest bidders, it's not like we can omit buyers without having tit-for-tat retaliation against American companies and creating a problem that didn't exist.
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  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    HighHeat said:

    HighHeat said:

    From Nov. 2021:

    Much of Biden’s Oil Release Will Likely End Up in China, India



    A large portion of the barrels that will be offered from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve will likely be exported to China and India, traders said.

    That’s because the supplies will consist of sour crude, a type of oil that U.S. refiners are shunning due to its high sulfur content, which makes it more expensive to process. For some foreign buyers, though, U.S. sour crude is attractive because it’s much cheaper than the global Brent benchmark. 

    The U.S. has already been selling oil from the SPR regularly this year, and a record volume of those barrels was exported in October. 

    China and India have been actively buying U.S. sour crude produced in the Gulf of Mexico. So, it’s easy to see why New Delhi and Beijing agreed to participate in the coordinated reserves release led by U.S. President Joe Biden.

    U.S. sour crudes are currently trading at about $75 a barrel, while Brent is at about $82.


    *********


    There was an additional coordinated response with 30 other member nations of the IEA to release oil from their strategic reserves.


    Speaking of oil exports to China who was Prez during the May 2020 peak on this chart?





    Have you looked at all the names of the other US investors in that Chinese owned company that Joe B. has also invested in? Are all those others (or their family members) also "criminals" in your mind?


    Also, have you looked at US exports of refined petroleum products (like gasoline) over the last few years? We export a LOT of gasoline. Wouldn't it make sense to prohibit those exports if we wanted to lower the price per gallon within the US? However, would that actually lower the price/gal? Would Big Oil even allow their Congresscritters to support such an effort?


    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,564
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,564
    HeavyG said:
    HighHeat said:

    HighHeat said:

    From Nov. 2021:

    Much of Biden’s Oil Release Will Likely End Up in China, India



    A large portion of the barrels that will be offered from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve will likely be exported to China and India, traders said.

    That’s because the supplies will consist of sour crude, a type of oil that U.S. refiners are shunning due to its high sulfur content, which makes it more expensive to process. For some foreign buyers, though, U.S. sour crude is attractive because it’s much cheaper than the global Brent benchmark. 

    The U.S. has already been selling oil from the SPR regularly this year, and a record volume of those barrels was exported in October. 

    China and India have been actively buying U.S. sour crude produced in the Gulf of Mexico. So, it’s easy to see why New Delhi and Beijing agreed to participate in the coordinated reserves release led by U.S. President Joe Biden.

    U.S. sour crudes are currently trading at about $75 a barrel, while Brent is at about $82.


    *********


    There was an additional coordinated response with 30 other member nations of the IEA to release oil from their strategic reserves.


    Speaking of oil exports to China who was Prez during the May 2020 peak on this chart?





    Have you looked at all the names of the other US investors in that Chinese owned company that Joe B. has also invested in? Are all those others (or their family members) also "criminals" in your mind?


    Also, have you looked at US exports of refined petroleum products (like gasoline) over the last few years? We export a LOT of gasoline. Wouldn't it make sense to prohibit those exports if we wanted to lower the price per gallon within the US? However, would that actually lower the price/gal? Would Big Oil even allow their Congresscritters to support such an effort?


    Facts and logic?  What sorcery is this?!?!?
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 20,522
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    This is a point we can agree on.  Releasing strategic oil reserves when we are staring down the barrel of WWIII, is a bad idea.  Unless you assume it will be nuclear.  Then it doesn't matter, might as well cash it all in while we can.

    Ever read Farnham's Freehold by R. Heinlein?

    Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL


  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,564
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    This is a point we can agree on.  Releasing strategic oil reserves when we are staring down the barrel of WWIII, is a bad idea.  Unless you assume it will be nuclear.  Then it doesn't matter, might as well cash it all in while we can.

    Ever read Farnham's Freehold by R. Heinlein?
    Have not.  I never really got into Heinlein.  I was much more into Asimov and Ray Bradbury growing up.  These days I mostly read non-fiction, with the exception of the occasional book by Turow.  
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 20,522
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    This is a point we can agree on.  Releasing strategic oil reserves when we are staring down the barrel of WWIII, is a bad idea.  Unless you assume it will be nuclear.  Then it doesn't matter, might as well cash it all in while we can.

    Ever read Farnham's Freehold by R. Heinlein?
    Have not.  I never really got into Heinlein.  I was much more into Asimov and Ray Bradbury growing up.  These days I mostly read non-fiction, with the exception of the occasional book by Turow.  
    I liked Asimov, Bradbury never much interested me.  Might have been the first few I tried.

    I am not familiar with Turow, I do enjoy legal thrillers though.  Popcorn for the mind.  I should read more non-fiction, but usually 10 fiction to 1 non-fiction for me.  I do watch a lot of documentaries though.

    Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL


  • JohnInCarolina
    JohnInCarolina Posts: 32,564
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    This is a point we can agree on.  Releasing strategic oil reserves when we are staring down the barrel of WWIII, is a bad idea.  Unless you assume it will be nuclear.  Then it doesn't matter, might as well cash it all in while we can.

    Ever read Farnham's Freehold by R. Heinlein?
    Have not.  I never really got into Heinlein.  I was much more into Asimov and Ray Bradbury growing up.  These days I mostly read non-fiction, with the exception of the occasional book by Turow.  
    I liked Asimov, Bradbury never much interested me.  Might have been the first few I tried.

    I am not familiar with Turow, I do enjoy legal thrillers though.  Popcorn for the mind.  I should read more non-fiction, but usually 10 fiction to 1 non-fiction for me.  I do watch a lot of documentaries though.
    Turow is just an excellent writer. He makes Grisham seem like a third-grader. 
    "I've made a note never to piss you two off." - Stike
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 20,522
    Some time ago, I made the point that there was little Biden could do that would significantly decrease the price of gas.

    Someone mentioned that, well, he could increase US production or tap the strategic reserves.  

    Biden did end up tapping the strategic reserves, which frankly, in my view was a mistake.  And the end result was a few cents on a gallon at best.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.
    This is a point we can agree on.  Releasing strategic oil reserves when we are staring down the barrel of WWIII, is a bad idea.  Unless you assume it will be nuclear.  Then it doesn't matter, might as well cash it all in while we can.

    Ever read Farnham's Freehold by R. Heinlein?
    Have not.  I never really got into Heinlein.  I was much more into Asimov and Ray Bradbury growing up.  These days I mostly read non-fiction, with the exception of the occasional book by Turow.  
    I liked Asimov, Bradbury never much interested me.  Might have been the first few I tried.

    I am not familiar with Turow, I do enjoy legal thrillers though.  Popcorn for the mind.  I should read more non-fiction, but usually 10 fiction to 1 non-fiction for me.  I do watch a lot of documentaries though.
    Turow is just an excellent writer. He makes Grisham seem like a third-grader. 
    Will check him out.  Thank you for the recommendation.

    Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL


  • This administration wants to bankrupt the oil industry and they have proven they don't mind driving prices up to push their eclectic vehicle agenda. They just hate to see it causing them to lose voters over the train wreck it caused. Yeah, they try to push it off on Russia but most people aren't buying it. Now the EPA is looking to attack our largest oil fields that produces 25% of our gas and 40% of our oil. I'll take" Elections Have Consequences" for a 1000 Alex... 
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,181
    Where do you get these strategic insights?
    Love you bro!
  • Legume
    Legume Posts: 15,181
    Here’s a pic of an eclectic vehicle:


    Love you bro!
  • Ozzie_Isaac
    Ozzie_Isaac Posts: 20,522

    Maybe your purpose in life is only to serve as an example for others? - LPL


  • nolaegghead
    nolaegghead Posts: 42,109
    This administration wants to bankrupt the oil industry and they have proven they don't mind driving prices up to push their eclectic vehicle agenda. They just hate to see it causing them to lose voters over the train wreck it caused. Yeah, they try to push it off on Russia but most people aren't buying it. Now the EPA is looking to attack our largest oil fields that produces 25% of our gas and 40% of our oil. I'll take" Elections Have Consequences" for a 1000 Alex... 
    having a member who’s part of a Russian troll farm I guess is representative of the GOP of today that push their agenda.  I prefer American Corn Farmers, though.
    ______________________________________________
    I love lamp..
  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    Legume said:
    Here’s a pic of an eclectic vehicle:



    Cool!
    I like to watch RuPaul's "Drag Race" just to see all the eclectic vehicles.
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • HeavyG
    HeavyG Posts: 10,380
    “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Diçk




  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,416
    high gas prices in june, dow soars......gotta love how that works
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • WildmanWilson
    WildmanWilson Posts: 516
    edited July 2022
    high gas prices in june, dow soars......gotta love how that works
    What's your definition of soars? LOL I think you mean inflation soars...
  • This administration wants to bankrupt the oil industry and they have proven they don't mind driving prices up to push their eclectic vehicle agenda. They just hate to see it causing them to lose voters over the train wreck it caused. Yeah, they try to push it off on Russia but most people aren't buying it. Now the EPA is looking to attack our largest oil fields that produces 25% of our gas and 40% of our oil. I'll take" Elections Have Consequences" for a 1000 Alex... 
    having a member who’s part of a Russian troll farm I guess is representative of the GOP of today that push their agenda.  I prefer American Corn Farmers, though.
    Is there ever a case or instance when you guys don't blame Russia ?
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,416
    high gas prices in june, dow soars......gotta love how that works
    What's your definition of soars? LOL I think you mean inflation soars...

    dows up 2 percent today......biden did that :D
    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • fishlessman
    fishlessman Posts: 33,416
    now fentanyl prices are going to go up.....whats next

    1M pills with fentanyl seized in record bust

    fukahwee maine

    you can lead a fish to water but you can not make him drink it
  • lousubcap
    lousubcap Posts: 33,893
    MBS has some kid of power- Thursday, regular unleaded reformulated gas around here was 4.59.99/gal.  This AM (Sat) it was $4.29.99/gal and this PM 4.25.99/gal.  Dang!
    Louisville; Rolling smoke in the neighbourhood. # 38 for the win.  Life is too short for light/lite beer!  Seems I'm livin in a transitional period.
  • dmchicago
    dmchicago Posts: 4,516
    lousubcap said:
    MBS has some kid of power- Thursday, regular unleaded reformulated gas around here was 4.59.99/gal.  This AM (Sat) it was $4.29.99/gal and this PM 4.25.99/gal.  Dang!
    I wonder what we could get for Tucker?
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