OT subject but worth a main-stream read- OT News Feeds...

Ozzie_Isaac

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russia-ukraine-live-updates-vladimir-putins-wild-rant-to-scum-west/news-story/344c9ceac26156761f6c173a3a63c5dc

TL:DR - Vlad is pissed the world is punishing him, and he sees himself as the victim.

Editorial comment by me: I think he may have an undiagnosed mental condition.  No idea how/why any of this surprised him, and how can he see himself as the victim?

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russia-ukraine-live-updates-vladimir-putins-wild-rant-to-scum-west/news-story/344c9ceac26156761f6c173a3a63c5dc

TL:DR - Vlad is pissed the world is punishing him, and he sees himself as the victim.

Editorial comment by me: I think he may have an undiagnosed mental condition.  No idea how/why any of this surprised him, and how can he see himself as the victim?

Did you miss the whole trucker convoy thing?  It’s the same.  Just another dude high on his own supply.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1504238993600360451?s=20&t=9ip4FsvMwN2G-KNodQQRKA

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1504244620150063104?s=20&t=9ip4FsvMwN2G-KNodQQRKA

dmchicago

Ozzie_Isaac

The self- proclaimed far right pretending to be doing it for freedom and then supporting Putin.  What the actual ****.  I finally understand how someone's opinions and views can be so toxic, I cannot even be friends.  Their views are no longer humourous.  They are impacting events that are reshaping the next 80 years.

I am glad to see real conservatives distancing themselves from these loonies.

If you support Putin, then you cannot be a friend of mine.

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/natemook/status/1504374721839783938?s=20&t=VTzhuBhLNbwMXJoyzw4oyA

lousubcap

RUSSIA, UKRAINE - WAR CRIMES ALLEGATIONS

"Biden has explicitly called Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal” in a seemingly off the cuff comment yesterday. The assertion, which was made in response to a reporter’s questions at an event on an entirely different topic, came after Zelensky’s forceful speech to Congress earlier that day. Neither the International Criminal Court nor the U.S. government has formally concluded that Russia’s actions constitute war crimes, making Biden’s “seemingly spontaneous assertion …all the more striking,” Ashley Parker reports for the Washington Post. 

The Kremlin has responded to Biden’s assertion that Putin is a war criminal, calling it “unforgivable rhetoric.” “We believe such rhetoric to be unacceptable and unforgivable on the part of the head of a state, whose bombs have killed hundreds of thousands of people around the world,” spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told Russian state news agency Tass. BBC News reports.

U.K. Foreign Secretary Liz Truss has said that there is “very, very strong evidence” that Russian President Vladimir Putin is a “war criminal,” following Biden’s description of him as such. BBC News reports."

nolaegghead

Putin gassed the Syrian people, either directly or through Assad's proxy.   If that ain't a war crime...then I can't imagine what is.  Putin is talking about a "cleansing" of his own people, those that sympathize with "The West". I'm sure he has a pretty low bar on what he considers fair game in Ukraine. 

nolaegghead

RE: claims Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was prez.  Trump was pursuing much of Putin's agenda.  Destabilizing western nations, weakening NATO, etc. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR8JW2Sjhp4&feature=emb_imp_woyt

nolaegghead

And remember Manifort?  He was working for Putin's puppet candidate to lead Ukraine.  Unbelievable we supported strongmen and dictators at the highest level. 

HighHeat

Here's another perspective...

https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/joe-biden-continues-proud-american-tradition-of-killing-afghan-children-usa-george-bush-donald-trump-barack-obama/

HighHeat

Not many "Wolverines" out there...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-so-few-americans-willing-to-defend-their-country

dmchicago

HighHeat said:

Here's another perspective...

https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/joe-biden-continues-proud-american-tradition-of-killing-afghan-children-usa-george-bush-donald-trump-barack-obama/

This Biden guy sounds like an a-hole.

I wouldn't vote for him if I were you.

dmchicago

littlerascal56

So much for “Russian Disinformation”.  Time for Hunter to go to jail…and take a bunch of low-life’s down with him. What a fuc_king CRUM & SCUMBAG.  He just borrowed $1M to pay the taxes on that Barisma income, thinking it will keep him out of jail for “tax evasion”.  And “The Big Guy” might get sucked into the limelight as this unfolds!

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1504491239357530113?s=20&t=gRHXk-ddQF07pfuRG6pPzA

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/EliotACohen/status/1504781027180429313?s=20&t=gRHXk-ddQF07pfuRG6pPzA

Kayak

You know, it's a tricky minefield picking a few bits of sense out of the firehose of stupidity we see posted online and occasionally here. I don't know how those people go from valid issue to full blown screaming nonsense. That said, there are some random things to pick out of the flow that should be mentioned.

There are neo-nazi's in Ukraine we have supplied with weapons, indirectly. They really seem to hate Russians instead of Jews, since there is too much Mongol blood in them, in their opinion. Not much we need to do about them, though, and it doesn't justify Russia invading Ukraine.

Ask the Afghan people if it's possible the US might use another country to damage the power of Russia, with no real concern for the locals. Since we seem (rightly, I'd say) to have no interest in getting into a war with Russia, the push to threaten NATO on their doorstep beforehand and a constant flow of weapons and cheerleading afterwards could be read as guaranteeing a flattened country between us and them. Russia will certainly come out weaker after this, with or without Putin.

Our government has damaged the idea of International Law, with a constant disregard of it when it restricts us, so it's hard to take their condemnations of other governments as anything but disingenuous. Replacing "Law" with "Rules Based Order" means you don't want anyone referencing Law.

"Whataboutism" can be a valid response. Not in the Hilary and Hunter sense, but in the "What about what we did in Iraq?" sense. To dismiss that question as just whataboutism or worthless means you have no response to a valid point. To put it bluntly, W certainly can and should have been charged with war crimes. If we were a party to the International Court, he would have been.

There seems to be a sliding scale of believability in the world, with regular people at one end (the good one) and governments on the other. Somewhere in the middle are news organizations who are supposed to be informing us, but often fail. When they just act as stenographers of government, we are being disserved.

JohnInCarolina

Kayak said:

You know, it's a tricky minefield picking a few bits of sense out of the firehose of stupidity we see posted online and occasionally here. 

You don't say.

HighHeat

https://www.ft.com/content/0f774fdb-c000-4cbe-ba51-f6586269bb57

HighHeat

When they return to Earth, I hope they land some place other than Russia.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cosmonauts-arrive-at-iss-in-colours-of-ukraine-flag-6rwcltmjt?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1647664078-1

lousubcap

Off the grid yesterday but did see this clip:
"Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke yesterday with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, revealing Russia’s precise demands for a peace deal with Ukraine. According to Erdoğan’s leading adviser and spokesperson, Ibrahim Kalin, Russia’s demands include Ukraine’s acceptance that it should be neutral, a commitment to undergo disarmament, protection for the Russian language, and the ‘deNazification’ of Ukraine. Putin also said that there would need to be face-to-face negotiation between him and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy before an agreement could be reached, on more contentious issues, including the status of the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine and Crimea. John Simpson reports for BBC News. "

Serve and volley.   What next?

JohnInCarolina

http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1504993144886026247?s=20&t=9i2aM33Ek7vA9hY0JKxd9w

Eoin

littlerascal56 said:

So much for “Russian Disinformation”.  Time for Hunter to go to jail…and take a bunch of low-life’s down with him. What a fuc_king CRUM & SCUMBAG.  He just borrowed $1M to pay the taxes on that Barisma income, thinking it will keep him out of jail for “tax evasion”.  And “The Big Guy” might get sucked into the limelight as this unfolds!

Come back when you've got something meaningful to add to the discussion.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He probably just wants to be there for when she gets to 69.

Ozzie_Isaac

JohnInCarolina said:

Ozzie_Isaac said:

He probably just wants to be there for when she gets to 69.

Lol, life long learner.

littlerascal56

@Eoin…came back with some more “meaningful stuff” for you dude…in case you don’t keep up on the news! Your posts sound like you drank some of JIC’s Koolaid in the past? Are you one of his “fanboys”?  Just getting that vibe!

Hunter is going to go to prison for a long, long time. And he will take others with him to get a lower sentence!

lousubcap

Both sides of the current equation. 

RUSSIA, UKRAINE – DIPLOMACY

Turkey which, alongside Israel, is mediating talks between Russia and Ukraine has claimed that “the parties are close to agreement on fundamental issues.” “It’s not easy to negotiate while the war is ongoing … But I want to say that there is momentum,” Turkey’s foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu added. Guy Chazon, Andres Schipani, Max Seddon and Laura Pitel report for the Financial Times.

The Kremlin has said that “no significant progress” has been made in peace talks between Moscow and Kyiv. Speaking to reporters on a conference call today, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov suggested there was still a long way to go before a possible meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy could take place. Chantal Da Silva reports for NBC News

And the war goes on.